The idea that any empire would actually hire some of the lazy peeps that we see enter this low security theater is laughable.

I propose a few things

1) Losers of said match don't get paid at all (free cash win or lose should be a pub thing)

2) Payouts double and triple when an Empire is underrepresented in FW aka is clearly losing eve side.

3) Merit based rewards (salvage/LP), you get rewarded more (or less) based on your history/contributions to the war effort with said factions equipment/weapons.

Thoughts?

Link to squad finder confirmation?

I propose a few things

1) Losers of said match don't get paid at all (free cash win or lose should be a pub thing)

2) Payouts double and triple when an Empire is underrepresented in FW aka is clearly losing eve side.

3) Merit based rewards (salvage/LP), you get rewarded more (or less) based on your history/contributions to the war effort with said factions equipment/weapons.

Thoughts?

I'm in full support of excluding solo players (and small squads) from FW altogether.

In my mind, when you que up for FW with your 6-man squad (or team when team deploy is implemented) you should expect to see the match full of other 6-man squads (or teams) on both sides every single time. No exceptions.

In reality we're not even excluding anyone here. The only thing we're doing is making you join a squad if you want to play FW. With the implementation of the Squad Finder in 1.5 (confirmed by FoxFour) it's going to be even easier to squad up for FW. You'll even be able to name your squads, so I'm sure players will easily be able to find squads named "FW squad" or something similar.

The only issue with this is that 6-man squads won't work for 16 players on a team. This is of course a chance for CCP to give us 48 or 64 player battles (64 player battles would require 8-man squads of course), or just 36 if they feel that the game can't handle more than that. Unless of course they go the cheap way and go back to 4-man squads instead and then stay at 32 player battles.

Either way, FW matches should be squads and teams vs squads and teams all day long.

I don't disagree with you.

I don't know how long we'll have to wait for PVE but until there is something new and interesting under the sun you'll probably find crappy players exploring everything -- squad-up rules or not.

I guess what I'm really trying to do is toss a flare out for CCP so that they realize they can't put in dynamics that leave the game uninteresting for those that aren't the most skilled or that haven't wormed their way into a competent corporation. For example, in EVE they've given people mining, manufacturing, trading, missioning and other ways to develop to a point of being able to field an effective fit or simply contribute through economics.

Here, we have nothing for these folks except the same old pub matches. And no, we can't just exclude them from the fun parts of the game entirely, as half the player base has to be below average - by definition. They may not be elite but they will be helping fund the game.