The Assault rifle is destroying heavy dropsuits like nothing. We need help. A heavy with all skills at level 5 are no match vs assault at level 5. Seconds and you're down. Not good. It takes to long to make it to level 5 and to get ripped. Not cool.
BUFF NEEDED. thank you.

Small Arms.

Those BB guns regular infantry use.

Most of our weapons are graded anti-equipment.

Haha are you kidding, heavies are a pain in the butt. Get a better machine gun lol !!! Heavies are already like tanks. A regular weapon with no mods is worthless when shooting at a heavy. You are better off throwing the weapon at a heavy and start running lol !!

Heavies need something. It's called squad support.

A heavy is much harder to kill when it has a logi and other squad mates behind it.

A heavy with uberbuffed HP and a core focused repair tool locked on it while it stands on a bed of triage nanohives would be nearly impossible to kill.

Small Arms.

Those BB guns regular infantry use.

Most of our weapons are graded anti-equipment.

I know this is a crazy idea right? If the heavy suit was more resistant to small arms fire smgs ,pistols and low grade explosives i.e grenades then the heavy suit may have a fighting chance.

Here is where I got this crazy idea http://dust514.com/universe/dropsuits/


"Heavy

The Heavy dropsuit is designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from low-grade explosives. Its power-assisted exoskeleton lets the wearer use the heaviest weapons available.

What heavy dropsuits lack in mobility they make up for with incomparable defenses. Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles."

Well lets see,
It takes 2-4 shots with a sniper rifle to take down a heavy whereas I take down anyone else with 1-2

It takes 2-4 times longer to kill a heavy with a AR

Heavys are very resistant against splash-damage

A heavy can survive a grenade that would take ANYONE else out

I'm pretty sure that easily qualifies as "resistant".
What it sounds like you want is "bulletproof" which ain't gonna happen.

Small Arms.

Those BB guns regular infantry use.

Most of our weapons are graded anti-equipment.

The problem isn't the suit. Everyone's guns are connecting with 99% accuracy thanks to hit detection and no dispersion on anything. Heavies didn't just suddenly get bad overnight, it was the new patch.

Heavies simply need new weapons.

that is all.

New weapons are coming in 1.5 according to devs.

I say again, WEAPONS.

plural.

Lets see what happens then.

How is getting a new weapon going to increase the survivability of a heavy using the old one?

You did not address the problem at all.

I've seen you make this assertion more than once recently. I have seen nothing in the universe canon that says this. Do you have a source?

You have no idea what you're talking about, and have CLEARLY never used a heavy suit against people that know their arse from their elbow.

Please, stick to giving advise about sniping.

Precisely.

Hell, the AR will burn the flesh off an un-suited human.

That being the person who FIRED it, btw.

With the currently ability for one person to take down a heavy in 3 seconds, compared to the 2 or less for everyone else, I actually like the idea for the heavy to be buffed. Doubling HP wouldn't be bad if mobility was reduced some more in trade.

With the currently ability for one person to take down a heavy in 3 seconds, compared to the 2 or less for everyone else, I actually like the idea for the heavy to be buffed. Doubling HP wouldn't be bad if mobility was reduced some more in trade.

With the currently ability for one person to take down a heavy in 3 seconds, compared to the 2 or less for everyone else, I actually like the idea for the heavy to be buffed. Doubling HP wouldn't be bad if mobility was reduced some more in trade.

Haha are you kidding, heavies are a pain in the butt. Get a better machine gun lol !!! Heavies are already like tanks. A regular weapon with no mods is worthless when shooting at a heavy. You are better off throwing the weapon at a heavy and start running lol !!

lol @ "concentrated small arms fire"... by that I guess they mean ONE militia assault rifle. Anything more than that and a heavy is almost dead if not dead after an encounter.

There has to be some balance between speed and HP but I think it would be fun for us to have specialized heavy plates that offered a heavy frames something different.

Hardened Energized Rolled Enforced
155 140 145 150 HP
6% 4% 5% 5.5% Speed penalties
Explosive EM Thermal Kinetic Damage Type
10% 10% 10% 10% Resistance amount

I know this is a crazy idea right? If the heavy suit was more resistant to small arms fire smgs ,pistols and low grade explosives i.e grenades then the heavy suit may have a fighting chance.

Here is where I got this crazy idea http://dust514.com/universe/dropsuits/


"Heavy

The Heavy dropsuit is designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from low-grade explosives. Its power-assisted exoskeleton lets the wearer use the heaviest weapons available.

What heavy dropsuits lack in mobility they make up for with incomparable defenses. Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles."

Looking for a new crutch ?

The Heavy suit is a Support platform, not a lemme Rambo the entire opposing team suit...

I just want what he suits description said it should be. call it a crutch if you want but blame ccp

I can't and won't vouch for the intelligence of my enemies on the field but I use my militia heavy forgegunning suit frequently and have noted that, minus any flux grenades, I can survive to the extent that I just listed. Even with militia I have survived attacks that would have taken out any of my other suits long before, and by no extent am I anything special in a heavy suit.
What people need to realize is that the heavy, like any other suit, has a role on the field and a lone, roaming tank is not it.
If you lone-wolf as a heavy you will get ****** up. Loosely, a heavy is supposed to:
A. Lead the charge with support from behind, that means easy logistics access to fall back to while for iron a fearful barrage of hmg fire, or
B. point defense: lock down one position with a squad.
A heavy has many strengths if you play it right, just like any other suit. I have seen well coordinated groups of heavies+logi dominate entire games and seen it enough to know that they are PLENTY resistant in the right circumstances.
So I'll say what many have already said before, just because you suck at a fitting, that does not necessarily make it UP, nor the weapon you are getting repeatedly boned by OP.

Heavies need something. It's called squad support.

A heavy is much harder to kill when it has a logi and other squad mates behind it.

A heavy with uberbuffed HP and a core focused repair tool locked on it while it stands on a bed of triage nanohives would be nearly impossible to kill.

Heavies need something. It's called squad support.

A heavy is much harder to kill when it has a logi and other squad mates behind it.

A heavy with uberbuffed HP and a core focused repair tool locked on it while it stands on a bed of triage nanohives would be nearly impossible to kill.

That sounds like a heavy's wet dream. Unfortunately that probably happens like 2% in public games. Majority of players at AR users, and even then I rarely see nano hives lying around. Militia grade AR's can tear through advanced level suits like butter and they are not afraid to charge a heavy on a 1 vs 1.

THANK YOU!

Jesus christ it's getting irritating that while a dude with a big ass machinegun can kill me, a turret mounted jeep can kill me, and at the same time some dude zipping around the map with a tiny ass assault rifle can kill me IN THE SAME AMMOUNT OF TIME. Don't **** this up CCP. There's still time to fix this ****. Just increase the heavy suit prices or skill needs or something. Damn.

Or give us more medium slots.

troll? if not... wow

LOL...just LOL!

You use a militia heavy suit, to Forgegun snipe, and wanna tell seasoned HMG Proto heavies their suit is alright? hahahaha

Look guys, he's giving us advice on how to defend objecitves ... also he's telling us the importance of a logi

Please. You're making yourself look foolish. Go stick to Forge sniping in your militia suit.

People that are scared of heavies in 1.4 are terrible players.

Also to note, we Mercs don't use small arms, thats the regular army so i guess if they place a heavy suit against the regular troops that stay dead when they die, they would have a really hard time getting trough your suit.

Were not regular soldiers...

If we aren't fighting small arms, then what was the point of even putting that in the description? If you don't consider an assault rifle small arms then what is, a BB gun?

Because its quite common for the empire loyal cloners to be deployed against non cloners, conventional armies are still deployed even today.

Here's a crazy idea.

Give us more slots and CPU / PG

Same for scouts.

Well call me crazy but I haven't fought a single "non-cloner" since I started playing dust, so it's still out of context.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg

Rendered obsolete against newly engineered Drop Suits which comes with active defense systems including shielding (whose radiation is lethal to humans over long time exposure) along with armor resonance and other penetration defeating methods.

Development of the Rail Rifle began shortly after the Sniper Rifle was developed to speed up the projectiles in order to defeat the active system sensors.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AqlZS3JmXPo/UYAMWjM5_PI/AAAAAAAAAW4/MgWKmxHs5Sk/s640/rail_rifle.png

Another Case is the Sparrow Class Dropship versus the Myron/Viper class dropship.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Dropship

Most of the old generation dropships can no longer be used in combat only after the fight is over. MCCs have practically replaced the largest drop ship classes the smaller ones are getting replaced by troop transports we're familiar with.

Our own laser rifles are a generation ahead as well
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Laser_weapons

Our Railgun Armaments are much smaller than the old generation ones, while projectile ones increased in calibur and fire small warheads now to defeat our systems.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Projectile_weapons

Infantry shield tech is not even mentioned anywhere on this page

Technologies

enough to really give it its niche roll!!

I can say in full confidence that I am not afraid of heavies in this game.

That's a major problem.

The heavies back at the start of open beta used to send me sprinting For cover, they were so terrifying the forums were flooded with NERF threads, I miss that, nobody dared **** witha heavy head on solo like we see today.

Haha are you kidding, heavies are a pain in the butt. Get a better machine gun lol !!! Heavies are already like tanks. A regular weapon with no mods is worthless when shooting at a heavy. You are better off throwing the weapon at a heavy and start running lol !!

I'm actually going to agree with you. Heavies are really difficult to kill one on one. You have to empty a clip right at their head using an AR or SAR. that's hard enough to do. For those, like me, who use the MD, you absolutely have to flux them or you'll not be able to kill them in one clip. With the new aimbot stuff going on with aim assist all the heavy has to do is turn and hold down the trigger and you're going to get hit nearly 100% of the shots. So they've got their damage increase from previous, and now they hit with that bonus damage. They are fine. Learn to play and stop trying to be a hero.

I'm actually going to agree with you. Heavies are really difficult to kill one on one. You have to empty a clip right at their head using an AR or SAR. that's hard enough to do. For those, like me, who use the MD, you absolutely have to flux them or you'll not be able to kill them in one clip. With the new aimbot stuff going on with aim assist all the heavy has to do is turn and hold down the trigger and you're going to get hit nearly 100% of the shots. So they've got their damage increase from previous, and now they hit with that bonus damage. They are fine. Learn to play and stop trying to be a hero.

I know this is a crazy idea right? If the heavy suit was more resistant to small arms fire smgs ,pistols and low grade explosives i.e grenades then the heavy suit may have a fighting chance.

Here is where I got this crazy idea http://dust514.com/universe/dropsuits/


"Heavy

The Heavy dropsuit is designed to withstand concentrated small arms fire and protect the wearer from low-grade explosives. Its power-assisted exoskeleton lets the wearer use the heaviest weapons available.

What heavy dropsuits lack in mobility they make up for with incomparable defenses. Mercenaries wearing such armor have been known to survive going toe-to-toe with enemy vehicles."

That is what I really want. Why the **** Assault suits get to have 6-7 high/low slots on proto/advanced levels but Heavies don't?

I can assure you, given how often I am getting taken down one on one that it really can't be that hard. While I may be a militia heavy I'm still carrying around 900hp, and I just melt under AR fire, I've lost CQ DPS races with AR's when we've both started shooting at the same time.

At the end of the day, this is a DUST problem.

Nothing has actual roles. It's who can make the better slayer, every time.

If you aren't slaying, you're doing it wrong.

People that are scared of heavies in 1.4 are terrible players.

I think your on to something here I would also suggested a new area on the wheel for these type of slots

can you imagine stacking some explosive resistance and being able to walk through the grenade or mass driver spam that would be what this suit needs. I think it would need its own health wheel so multiple nades still wear it down but it would give you some more survivability

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpJQjwKs6Kg

Rendered obsolete against newly engineered Drop Suits which comes with active defense systems including shielding (whose radiation is lethal to humans over long time exposure) along with armor resonance and other penetration defeating methods.

Development of the Rail Rifle began shortly after the Sniper Rifle was developed to speed up the projectiles in order to defeat the active system sensors.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AqlZS3JmXPo/UYAMWjM5_PI/AAAAAAAAAW4/MgWKmxHs5Sk/s640/rail_rifle.png

Another Case is the Sparrow Class Dropship versus the Myron/Viper class dropship.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Dropship

Most of the old generation dropships can no longer be used in combat only after the fight is over. MCCs have practically replaced the largest drop ship classes the smaller ones are getting replaced by troop transports we're familiar with.

Our own laser rifles are a generation ahead as well
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Laser_weapons

Our Railgun Armaments are much smaller than the old generation ones, while projectile ones increased in calibur and fire small warheads now to defeat our systems.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Projectile_weapons

Infantry shield tech is not even mentioned anywhere on this page

Technologies

And it scales even worse when proto suits and guns come into play. A Duvolle >>>> Boundless HMG.

My duvolle is eating heavies just need a better medium suit