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ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 254	Posted - 2013.09.08 22:26:00 - [1] - Quote blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out fog - reduces sight range heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, periodic suit damage caused by lightning strikes. hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, periodic damage from flying debris, just to spice things up abit
NoExsplosionsMgee The Vanguardians 29	Posted - 2013.09.08 22:34:00 - [2] - Quote What about sand storms? :0 Also these are excellent Ideas! I hope CCP sees these.
NoExsplosionsMgee The Vanguardians 29	Posted - 2013.09.08 22:41:00 - [3] - Quote Bump
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 255	Posted - 2013.09.08 22:42:00 - [4] - Quote NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: What about sand storms? :0 Also these are excellent Ideas! I hope CCP sees these. you suggested it. whats the effects and i will add it to the list. i will start you off lol
NoExsplosionsMgee The Vanguardians 29	Posted - 2013.09.08 22:58:00 - [5] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: What about sand storms? :0 Also these are excellent Ideas! I hope CCP sees these. you suggested it. whats the effects and i will add it to the list Well I had the idea that when you're in the middle of a sand storm your HUDs mini map will start to malfunction along with your active scanner. This will result in having you having to rely on your wits to track down your enemies without them. Fell free to share your thoughts if you wish. :)
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 256	Posted - 2013.09.08 23:00:00 - [6] - Quote NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: What about sand storms? :0 Also these are excellent Ideas! I hope CCP sees these. you suggested it. whats the effects and i will add it to the list Well I had the idea that when you're in the middle of a sand storm your HUDs mini map will start to malfunction along with your active scanner. This will result in having you having to rely on your wits to track down your enemies without them. Fell free to share your thoughts if you wish. :) done
NoExsplosionsMgee The Vanguardians 29	Posted - 2013.09.08 23:03:00 - [7] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: What about sand storms? :0 Also these are excellent Ideas! I hope CCP sees these. you suggested it. whats the effects and i will add it to the list Well I had the idea that when you're in the middle of a sand storm your HUDs mini map will start to malfunction along with your active scanner. This will result in having you having to rely on your wits to track down your enemies without them. Fell free to share your thoughts if you wish. :) done
WeapondigitX V7 Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 111	Posted - 2013.09.09 12:44:00 - [8] - Quote I like those ideas. Although if your sight is reduced then icons above enemies should not show up beyond a certain range when looking at them in open areas.
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire 257	Posted - 2013.09.09 16:37:00 - [9] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: I like those ideas. Although if your sight is reduced then icons above enemies should not show up beyond a certain range when looking at them in open areas. my position on this is, fog,blizzard to a degree you can still make out shapes,silouets to a degree at some ranges so a visual range decrease is plausable. as these are just general water based i opted for only a visual range decrease. with the above in mind i look at a sand storm to be a more physical. so the effect of this type of weather would have a severe effect on sight both in physical sight range much worse than even a blizzard and electronically. i look at it as having a severe effect on electronics much like in RL if you have something electronic then sand will likely get into it somehow causing allsorts of issues. your sensors and active scanners would be susceptible to malfunctions and interferance causing ghost readings on your radar. going back to what you said, with visual only you are essentially tagging the enemy you see, with your radar which can see better than you can so blip remains as per normal with no other effects. with visual and radar effects then once they leave your sight range they would either drop of radar or be lost in ghost readings whichever ccp prefered
The-Errorist Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 189	Posted - 2013.09.11 03:52:00 - [10] - Quote That would be cool. Mass effect 3 had something like this; it would be cool if Dust did too. It would be cool if there could be tornadoes too.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5894	Posted - 2013.09.11 04:58:00 - [11] - Quote I love these. Snow maps should have reduced heat buildup for heat buildup weapons (laser rifle, scrambler rifle, HMG). When we get ice planets, it should have the same effect, but to a greater degree. When we get Lava planets, they should have the opposite effect.
McFurious TeamPlayers EoN. 356	Posted - 2013.09.11 05:06:00 - [12] - Quote Rain, snow, and ice could also affect vehicle traction.
Torneido Achura The Suicide Kingz 35	Posted - 2013.09.11 06:28:00 - [13] - Quote Hurricanes should have similar effects that the sandstorms, and heavy snowfalls. (fog like features, map and scanners malfunctions, etc)
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 503	Posted - 2013.09.11 09:26:00 - [14] - Quote I saw once, in an "illegal" footage of closed beta there was a fog (of war?) in DUST. It felt very misty and mysterious. A LOD trick? With wind blow sounds. Very nice... Where did that mist has gone?
Draco Cerberus Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 308	Posted - 2013.09.11 13:29:00 - [15] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility fog - reduces sight range heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, periodic suit damage caused by lightning strikes. hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, periodic damage from flying debris, sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. just to spice things up abit Yes!!!!!
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 488	Posted - 2013.09.11 14:04:00 - [16] - Quote I think the lag would be worrisome.
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 111	Posted - 2013.09.11 15:33:00 - [17] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility fog - reduces sight range heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, periodic suit damage caused by lightning strikes. hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, periodic damage from flying debris, sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. just to spice things up abit DUST 514 on PS4 confirmed!
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire 262	Posted - 2013.09.11 16:25:00 - [18] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I love these. Snow maps should have reduced heat buildup for heat buildup weapons (laser rifle, scrambler rifle, HMG). When we get ice planets, it should have the same effect, but to a greater degree. When we get Lava planets, they should have the opposite effect. i don't agree really with effects on weapons as this gives 1 player an advantage over the other which also becomes a major balance issue. movement and scanning affects everyone equally which is a more balanced approach. with regards to planet buffs/debuffs well that something completely different and each would have to have its own set of weather effects to compliment the planet
Jadek Menaheim WarRavens League of Infamy 101	Posted - 2013.09.12 01:26:00 - [19] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I love these. Snow maps should have reduced heat buildup for heat buildup weapons (laser rifle, scrambler rifle, HMG). When we get ice planets, it should have the same effect, but to a greater degree. When we get Lava planets, they should have the opposite effect. i don't agree really with effects on weapons as this gives 1 player an advantage over the other which also becomes a major balance issue. movement and scanning affects everyone equally which is a more balanced approach. with regards to planet buffs/debuffs well that something completely different and each would have to have its own set of weather effects to compliment the planet Maybe these types of planetary buffs and hindrances would be left to the planetary conquest side of Dust. It would give corporations incentives to recruit player with skills and weapons best suited to defending or assaulting a particular planetary district.
crispipin The Vanguardians 20	Posted - 2013.09.12 01:53:00 - [20] - Quote Back at Fanfest this year, CCP did say that the maps you will be fighting on will affect your gameplay. For example, if you're fighting on a snowy map, your weapon will take longer to overheat.

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 5943	Posted - 2013.09.16 14:19:00 - [21] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I love these. Snow maps should have reduced heat buildup for heat buildup weapons (laser rifle, scrambler rifle, HMG). When we get ice planets, it should have the same effect, but to a greater degree. When we get Lava planets, they should have the opposite effect. i don't agree really with effects on weapons as this gives 1 player an advantage over the other which also becomes a major balance issue. movement and scanning affects everyone equally which is a more balanced approach. with regards to planet buffs/debuffs well that something completely different and each would have to have its own set of weather effects to compliment the planet The conditional buffs/nerfs have already been mentioned by CCP, and I think its fair as long as there is also conditions that nerf. the weapons. Also, you can see if the map is snowy or lava-filled before spawning anyway, and choose your fit accordingly. It would also add another level of preparation and tactics for PC.
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn Neo Terra Empire 275	Posted - 2013.09.16 15:41:00 - [22] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I love these. Snow maps should have reduced heat buildup for heat buildup weapons (laser rifle, scrambler rifle, HMG). When we get ice planets, it should have the same effect, but to a greater degree. When we get Lava planets, they should have the opposite effect. i don't agree really with effects on weapons as this gives 1 player an advantage over the other which also becomes a major balance issue. movement and scanning affects everyone equally which is a more balanced approach. with regards to planet buffs/debuffs well that something completely different and each would have to have its own set of weather effects to compliment the planet The conditional buffs/nerfs have already been mentioned by CCP, and I think its fair as long as there is also conditions that nerf. the weapons. Also, you can see if the map is snowy or lava-filled before spawning anyway, and choose your fit accordingly. It would also add another level of preparation and tactics for PC. now that i think of it it would be quite refreshing to see people use other weapons and those that refuse would see its effectiveness reduced for that fight.
Mighty No 9 Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 3	Posted - 2013.09.16 16:06:00 - [23] - Quote +1 yes definitely yes but don-¦t forget we have many Planets and they can-¦t have all the same gravity
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6308	Posted - 2013.09.30 05:30:00 - [24] - Quote Want
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 499	Posted - 2013.09.30 06:09:00 - [25] - Quote Dont forget dust storms those are crazy. Good ideas tho
Rastael Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 19	Posted - 2013.10.01 12:26:00 - [26] - Quote Same idea I had some days ago, maybe not exactly with the same bonuses as you mentioned but should be definitely added in game. Here's a list of what conditions I think should be added: snow: slower scout, doesnt affect heavies, slipping vehicles rain: slows everybody, harder to fly DS wind: harder to snipe, only medium/short range attack works, harder to fly DS storm : harder to see, impossible to snipe, only short range attacks work, impossible to fly DS night: harder to snipe, reduce passive scan range solarstorm : all depots and CRU are unusable, an objective becomes unhacked (yellow) earthquackes : everything shakes and a random installation get destroyed / an objective become unhacked (yellow) gravity: (as Mighty No 9 said) falling meteors : that randomly hit a spot, just like a random orbital to resume, it should affect: - scan range (how far you can scan, how far you can be scanned) - speed - DS piloting - vehicle piloting - attack range - objectives I also think that weather conditions should change during the battle, and you can have some weather information in the battle finder screen/warbarge, so you can prepare your squad to the planet conditions. Changing condition in the battle (only 1 change per battle) would really change the odds of the match, maybe the dominating team are really poor when rains falls and you are specialized in that weather type. It would be nice to be able to read the planet info of where you are going to be deployed. Certain planets will have fixed conditions (such as earthquakes) while other will have chaning conditions (storm,wind, rains)
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6861	Posted - 2013.11.01 22:25:00 - [27] - Quote Still want Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of the threads Gû¦Gû+
Minako Nakajima Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo 26	Posted - 2013.11.02 06:43:00 - [28] - Quote Yes please... "Let's do some killing! Let's Kill for the Kids!" // Terminally Insane
ADAM-OF-EVE Svartur Bjorn 490	Posted - 2013.11.17 22:51:00 - [29] - Quote shameless bump Ten soldiers wisely led will beat a hundred without a head https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Meeko Fent Commando Perkone Caldari State 1572	Posted - 2013.11.17 22:54:00 - [30] - Quote Looks like the sauce. Seems cool. For the State! For Caldari FW join Caldari Hierarchy Replication Warrior

DaNizzle4shizle The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 57	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:44:00 - [31] - Quote maybe dusring heavy rain, scanners should spark out and be unusable for a while. bump and like me if you like this idea 2nd Commander...... help me with likes. like everything i post and i will like yours.
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 144	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:53:00 - [32] - Quote Acid rain, armor repair -35% this would be added to either rain or thunderstorms Electromagnetic storm shield recharge deleay +10% and again added to rain or thunder storms Christ is lord Sanguine knights , open recruitment, join now. Free tacos
Leithe Askarii Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 18	Posted - 2013.11.18 03:59:00 - [33] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility fog - reduces sight range heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, periodic suit damage caused by lightning strikes. hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, periodic damage from flying debris, sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. just to spice things up abit I dunno if we need the negatives unless of course you weren't wearing the correct dropsuit variant for the conditions....I heard there were supposed to be planet specific dropsuit variants.
ThePlayerkyle13 D3LTA ACADEMY 18	Posted - 2013.11.18 19:49:00 - [34] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility fog - reduces sight range heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, periodic suit damage caused by lightning strikes. hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, periodic damage from flying debris, sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. just to spice things up abit Dame looks like CCP will be wanting to borrow FROSTBITE Engine from DICE to process all this. These are good points, but i can't see them being on this game using Unreal Engine, which is what the game runs on...
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 882	Posted - 2014.02.01 19:42:00 - [35] - Quote bump https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1885	Posted - 2014.02.02 00:09:00 - [36] - Quote Sounds like a great element to move into new planet types. Add weather effects now, then later migrate them to the new maps/sockets for the world types outside of terrain. Gives the chance to test aspects of playing with a diverse pallet of worlds prior to launching all of them or committing the resources required to create assets for all of them. 0.02 ISK Cross SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 805	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:17:00 - [37] - Quote Luck based gameplay is bad
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 897	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:23:00 - [38] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Luck based gameplay is bad which is why all the buffs/debuffs are blanket and not directed towards a single role or ability. every buff/debuff affects everyone equally. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 808	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:41:00 - [39] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Luck based gameplay is bad which is why all the buffs/debuffs are blanket and not directed towards a single role or ability. every buff/debuff affects everyone equally. blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility Hurts scouts and vehicles more than others fog - reduces sight range No opinion heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range Harms gallente and caldari scouts as well as gallente logis in 1.8 more than anyone else light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina How does rain increase stamina? thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, Hurts scouts more than others Will hurt gallente logis more than others in 1.8 hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, Harms scouts more than others sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. Harms scouts, vehicles, and gallente logis in 1.8 more than others just to spice things up abit Overall this will hurt scouts, gallente logs and vehicles more than anyone else
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1936	Posted - 2014.02.02 03:42:00 - [40] - Quote NoExsplosionsMgee wrote: What about sand storms? :0 Also these are excellent Ideas! I hope CCP sees these. I really enjoyed the effect here. "It really helps make an old map new." My sentiments exactly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8eiBRdCMzo McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol

Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 262	Posted - 2014.02.02 04:03:00 - [41] - Quote Hailstorm.....interrupts shield regent at random..like at stray bullet hitting you and stopping it........would only damage you if in an open area without overhead cover Nearby volcanic eruption.....random lava chunks rain on the battlefield damaging infantry and vehicles....damage depends on chunk size which is random......small aoe damage as well.....most would be like a std MD round Thunderstorm..... I would like to add a certain height where it becomes possible to be struck by lightning.....tower snipers ds pilots beware I want to see a tornado rip through the battlefield and throw a tank that takes out a dropship Earthquakes...... randomized rumbling makes it difficult to aim Real heavies use lasers
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 899	Posted - 2014.02.02 04:26:00 - [42] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Luck based gameplay is bad which is why all the buffs/debuffs are blanket and not directed towards a single role or ability. every buff/debuff affects everyone equally. blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility Hurts scouts and vehicles more than others fog - reduces sight range No opinion heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range Harms gallente and caldari scouts as well as gallente logis in 1.8 more than anyone else light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina How does rain increase stamina? thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, Hurts scouts more than others Will hurt gallente logis more than others in 1.8 hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, Harms scouts more than others sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. Harms scouts, vehicles, and gallente logis in 1.8 more than others just to spice things up abit Overall this will hurt scouts, gallente logs and vehicles more than anyone else sight reduction hurts everyone as we all have to see and the reduction would be the same for everyone. reduced stamina slows everyone down equally as they all have a reduced sprint time and amount of jumps scan range reduction means all suits are less visible. this goes in tandem with reduced range of active scanners. scan strength is not affected light rain does increase stamina. you ever been for a run in light rain. its refreshing, keeps you cooler and it gives me a boost. is that not what stamina does in dust. it gives you the ability to sprint for longer. this would also affect everyone as everyone has and uses stamina. thunder storm creating electrical interfearance in turn affecting passive and active scan effectiveness. in this case range again and not strength. affects all reduced speed slows down everyone not just scouts. decreased speed/decreased vehicle agility affects everyone no matter what they are doing. sensor ghosts applies to everyone in a vehicle or on foot. all scanning is useless with regards to gal logi yes it has a bonus to active scanners but its bonus is not affected. if it uses it they still have an advantage over none gal logi but at a general reduced effectiveness the same as anyone else who fits it. speed also does not only affect scouts. it affects heavies and assaults and logis and all vehicles. also the vehicle speed reduction works in tandem with a suit speed reduction therefore both are at a disadvantage. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 900	Posted - 2014.02.02 05:00:00 - [43] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Hailstorm.....interrupts shield regent at random..like at stray bullet hitting you and stopping it........would only damage you if in an open area without overhead cover Nearby volcanic eruption.....random lava chunks rain on the battlefield damaging infantry and vehicles....damage depends on chunk size which is random......small aoe damage as well.....most would be like a std MD round Thunderstorm..... I would like to add a certain height where it becomes possible to be struck by lightning.....tower snipers ds pilots beware I want to see a tornado rip through the battlefield and throw a tank that takes out a dropship Earthquakes...... randomized rumbling makes it difficult to aim for easy balance it should be stats that affect everyone. i removed the random damage because that could be game breaking if you get a random strike which kills your suit. maybe that could come in the future as part of pve. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 123	Posted - 2014.02.02 05:53:00 - [44] - Quote So much cringe. apart from slight visibilty issues (like the fog weather already present) no stats should be affected. Weather should be done because it makes the maps more interesting, only thing I'd support is random lightning strikes, a few per match on a raining map and it's a ohk, chances increase the higher up you go, add lava flows or crevasses etc. If you fall in you die. Make the environments harsher
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 903	Posted - 2014.02.02 06:16:00 - [45] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: So much cringe. apart from slight visibilty issues (like the fog weather already present) no stats should be affected. Weather should be done because it makes the maps more interesting, only thing I'd support is random lightning strikes, a few per match on a raining map and it's a ohk, chances increase the higher up you go, add lava flows or crevasses etc. If you fall in you die. Make the environments harsher the whole game is based on statistics. random strikes is just pure luck like someone stated earlier and is not something thats accounted for in game and is therefore unfair mechanic. basing things on specific base stats is the only way to do it and those should be stats commonly used by everyone. scan range doesn't directly affect survivability so is a safe stat to blanket change for everyone. the same goes for stamina and sight range is the same for everyone regardless of suit or weapon. some of these changes offer up reasons for ccp to add new things like vision modes and types of scopes for snipers. i dont want a linear fight where everything follows a set path and everything is the same but slightly different like we have now. i want a game where every battle has the potential to change in an instant and be totally unpredictable. where you have to change to meet the battle area parameters as they unfold. i adapt to every fight and its what keeps the game alive for me with its limited maps and roles. adding weather effects and lighting just adds to this I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 336	Posted - 2014.02.02 06:16:00 - [46] - Quote message from Godin: all I see is scout nerf scout nerf. take out all those scanning ones, and spped ones only when extreme wind is a factor, unless it's for a suit over a certain mass.
Roger Cordill The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 336	Posted - 2014.02.02 06:22:00 - [47] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: So much cringe. apart from slight visibilty issues (like the fog weather already present) no stats should be affected. Weather should be done because it makes the maps more interesting, only thing I'd support is random lightning strikes, a few per match on a raining map and it's a ohk, chances increase the higher up you go, add lava flows or crevasses etc. If you fall in you die. Make the environments harsher the whole game is based on statistics. random strikes is just pure luck like someone stated earlier and is not something thats accounted for in game and is therefore unfair mechanic. basing things on specific base stats is the only way to do it and those should be stats commonly used by everyone. scan range doesn't directly affect survivability so is a safe stat to blanket change for everyone. the same goes for stamina and sight range is the same for everyone regardless of suit or weapon. some of these changes offer up reasons for ccp to add new things like vision modes and types of scopes for snipers. i dont want a linear fight where everything follows a set path and everything is the same but slightly different like we have now. i want a game where every battle has the potential to change in an instant and be totally unpredictable. where you have to change to meet the battle area parameters as they unfold. i adapt to every fight and its what keeps the game alive for me with its limited maps and roles. adding weather effects and lighting just adds to this message from Godin: Cal scouts is bonused for passive scanning, so that's a lie Amarr Scout is bonused for stamina, so that's a lie These are, like he said, nerfs to Scouts and the Gal logi. No scanning and stamina nerfs. Speed and viability is okay. Also, the heat attributes that Kagehoshi said are fine as well. Nothing else though.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 903	Posted - 2014.02.02 06:25:00 - [48] - Quote Roger Cordill wrote: message from Godin: all I see is scout nerf scout nerf. take out all those scanning ones, and spped ones only when extreme wind is a factor, unless it's for a suit over a certain mass. there are only 2 suggestions that reduce speed and both are extreme wind related. why would the scanning range ones be a nerf to scouts. this is actually a buff to them in a way as players have to be a lot closer to see you so infact scouts would benefit more by being seen a lot less untill its too late the stamina ones are based on the weather sapping your strength so reducing your stamina or vice versa when the weather permits. as scouts have a bigger pool they stand gain more on the positive and a little less on the negative but as the pool is big its still only marginal to them I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 903	Posted - 2014.02.02 06:50:00 - [49] - Quote this is just a suggestion on how weather might work. its not set in stone or beyond balance. who is to say that bonused suits are unaffected by that specific weather effect. also heat build up bonuses is not ok as it only affects a single type of weapon increasing its effectiveness against all others making it unbalanced so no, heat attributes one is not fine in any way. everyone has stamina or speed or scan range etc. not everyone has heat buildup so unfair to everyone else. if ccp want to go that way in the future then they at least need somewhere to start like the above suggestions everyone has been making which offer up a more balanced option for negative/positive effects dependant how you look at them. yes the idea doesn't quite work for everything but isn't that for balancing to sort out and a simple coding issue with a few little words like"not affected by stamina reducing weather effects" somewhere in the description. its not beyond reason that an expert in something could prevent weather from affecting his equipment. i know in RL radio operators in the military sleep with their radios and batteries in cold weather to help them maintain charge. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Jadek Menaheim Xer Cloud Consortium 1936	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:23:00 - [50] - Quote How about a volcanic ash environment? http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/volcanic-ash-2.jpg Extent of hazard = limits visual spectrum. McDonell Miller Explains the Dust Challenge Lottery Protocol

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 954	Posted - 2014.02.06 16:54:00 - [51] - Quote Jadek Menaheim wrote: How about a volcanic ash environment? http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/volcanic-ash-2.jpg Extent of hazard = limits visual spectrum. im sure ccp have some experience with that lol I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 848	Posted - 2014.02.06 17:04:00 - [52] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Dexter307 wrote: ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Luck based gameplay is bad which is why all the buffs/debuffs are blanket and not directed towards a single role or ability. every buff/debuff affects everyone equally. blizzard - reduces speed,stamina,and sight range through varying degrees of visibility including total white out, decreased vehicle agility Hurts scouts and vehicles more than others fog - reduces sight range No opinion heavy rain - reduces sight range, decreases effectiveness of active scanners and suit scan range Harms gallente and caldari scouts as well as gallente logis in 1.8 more than anyone else light rain - decreases sight range, increases stamina How does rain increase stamina? thunder storm - decreases active scanner effectiveness and suit scan range, Hurts scouts more than others Will hurt gallente logis more than others in 1.8 hurricane - reduced sight range, reduces speed, Harms scouts more than others sand storm - reduced sight range, decreased speed, decreased vehicle agility, sensor ghosts on radar, decreased active scanner effectiveness. Harms scouts, vehicles, and gallente logis in 1.8 more than others just to spice things up abit Overall this will hurt scouts, gallente logs and vehicles more than anyone else sight reduction hurts everyone as we all have to see and the reduction would be the same for everyone. reduced stamina slows everyone down equally as they all have a reduced sprint time and amount of jumps scan range reduction means all suits are less visible. this goes in tandem with reduced range of active scanners. scan strength is not affected light rain does increase stamina. you ever been for a run in light rain. its refreshing, keeps you cooler and it gives me a boost. is that not what stamina does in dust. it gives you the ability to sprint for longer. this would also affect everyone as everyone has and uses stamina. thunder storm creating electrical interfearance in turn affecting passive and active scan effectiveness. in this case range again and not strength. affects all reduced speed slows down everyone not just scouts. decreased speed/decreased vehicle agility affects everyone no matter what they are doing. sensor ghosts applies to everyone in a vehicle or on foot. all passive scanning is reduced with regards to gal logi yes it has a bonus to active scanners but its bonus is not affected. if it uses it they still have an advantage over none gal logi but at a general reduced effectiveness the same as anyone else who fits it. speed also does not only affect scouts. it affects heavies and assaults and logis and all vehicles. also the vehicle speed reduction works in tandem with a suit speed reduction therefore both are at a disadvantage. Those things are all things that give the scout role. So what if a assult moves slower, he has HP. Scouts advantages are speed and scanning. Take that away and you've killed the scout Also you wouldn't be able to feel rain in a dropsuit, even though rain making you run farther makes no sense at all, intact id probably run more if there was no rain. TBH I don't like weather effecting game play as it adds luck as a factor, removing some of the skill.
Krom Ganesh Nos Nothi 1381	Posted - 2014.02.06 17:15:00 - [53] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: I love these. Snow maps should have reduced heat buildup for heat buildup weapons (laser rifle, scrambler rifle, HMG). When we get ice planets, it should have the same effect, but to a greater degree. When we get Lava planets, they should have the opposite effect. Same could be applied to rail weapons with charge time since electrical resistance often decreases as the temperature decreases. 1.8 can't get here soon enough.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1912	Posted - 2014.02.06 19:30:00 - [54] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Luck based gameplay is bad which is why all the buffs/debuffs are blanket and not directed towards a single role or ability. every buff/debuff affects everyone equally. Also, if it were eventually tied to plant type with the ability for players do some research prior to deployment (as it is with EVE wormhole space for example) there wouldn't be "luck" to it there would be tactical adaptation and preplanning. If you're corp/alliance cannot fight effectively in a lava or plasma environment then don't engage forces on such worlds, or better yet ask yourself what skills you need to in order to become effective in those contexts and invest some SP to create a more diverse/robust build. Cheers, Cross SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 84	Posted - 2014.02.07 06:14:00 - [55] - Quote i like it bump yes i scream KA-ME-HA-MEHAAAAAA when i forge muthafuckas the Turtle Hermit: Professional Heavy
X7 lion Swamp Tempo Canis Eliminatus Operatives 101	Posted - 2014.02.07 12:58:00 - [56] - Quote i do like the ideas but there is all sorts of balance issues, how ever that could be solved by exoskeletons that have x advantage in weather condition (x) but also comes with a disadvantage ie maybe you need to sacrifice a high slot to fit it. i would have to give it some real thought to balance it in my head, but the concept of weather effecting battles i like. cant help but think of having a wind direction tracker on the hud that scouts could use to get more jump distance depending on the severity. I am death incarnate, you will not see me or hear me. You shall only feel the strike of my blade.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 966	Posted - 2014.02.07 17:28:00 - [57] - Quote X7 lion wrote: i would have to give it some real thought to balance it in my head, but the concept of weather effecting battles i like. cant help but think of having a wind direction tracker on the hud that scouts could use to get more jump distance depending on the severity. anything is possible. i didn't consider directional weather. i was just thinking blanket everyone affected the same but taking wind direction etc into account could be something cool to play with. like you said against the wind scouts would suffer big time but with the wind they would be like The Flash zooming about the battlefield. I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Squagga The State Protectorate 162	Posted - 2014.02.07 20:40:00 - [58] - Quote I do like these ideas and I do want to fight on lava planets and water planets. I do however want more than just lobby shooting. I would rather that we get Mission Running or Social hubs, two other threads going on right now, to be implemented first. Then more about the areas that we're fighting on. BTW they have a map in drakes fortune or whatever that games called, online shooter part and there's a map that has a sandstorm. You can't see a goddamn thing in there when that's goin on. Pretty sweet Reloading, the silent killer.
The-Errorist 506	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:00:00 - [59] - Quote Bump
a brackers Nex Miles Militis 5	Posted - 2014.02.15 23:52:00 - [60] - Quote +1 Proto dropship pilot

ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1151	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:32:00 - [61] - Quote still want I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1151	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:17:00 - [62] - Quote we need environment unpredictability. at the moment everything is always the same. spice it up ccp I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1837	Posted - 2014.04.03 19:44:00 - [63] - Quote I've been talking about this for a very long time. Particularly my desire to exaggerate this by having battles on non-temperate planets: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dHnJW69fNZImNynEQJR7kIQetLpLtOa5xkihcRAp7WY/ I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
TheNorthernHOUND Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 6	Posted - 2014.04.03 23:35:00 - [64] - Quote DUST needs more dust To arms and to death my brothers
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1248	Posted - 2014.04.18 09:35:00 - [65] - Quote need a blizzard to slow down and show cloaked scouts and decrease ranged weapon visibility bringing players in closer I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
Kaeru Nayiri Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:24:00 - [66] - Quote this would be great !
Clockwork Jester Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 33	Posted - 2014.04.19 01:18:00 - [67] - Quote I don't know about all of you but I still get excited when I see grass in the game. If there were other environmental factors implemented I'm not sure I would be able to handle it. I'd settle for trees and other vegetation.
a brackers Vanguardian Remnant 26	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:03:00 - [68] - Quote +1. I would also like varying gravity making everything slower/faster depending on planet, and the gravity is shown on war barge when we finally get that back Proto dropship pilot
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1544	Posted - 2014.06.30 20:39:00 - [69] - Quote just refreshing ccp's minds All Hail Legion


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