It's exactly the same problem. What, you want tanks to move only slightly faster than infantry so we're easier to kill?

What about if the swarm was made so heavy you could only jump like a heavy while you're using it? Or, not jump at all, giving a similar hindrance as the breach forge gun.

Supply depots aren't everywhere, you can recall your vehicle anytime you, anywhere you want.

Then you can recall it with full shields and armour.

If a tank(Or any vehicle) has half of its total EHP gone, it shouldn't be able to be recalled.

Why? Tanks are already mobile coffins in the crosshairs of a good AV player. If you've got one on the ropes and can't finish it off in time, that's your hard luck. The vehicle recall feature isn't gamebreaking. Forcing someone to retreat means that you're winning. Look elsewhere for a money shot.

So if I'm about to finish a gunnlogi's shields, and he hopes out and recalls before I can reload...you know...I'm not gonna even bother.

its a simple and fair balance change...and its already in game, but it only counts your armour...

You're a genius! You just came up with Yet Another way for RDV's to unintentionally/intentionally(?) kill dropship!


Dropship is trying to kill a tank, keeps firing at it and he can recall it recall it anyways? LOL
That was before, NOW not only can he recall it under constant fire of proto small missiles but he can also get an RDV to fly down and crash into you out of nowhere! Or just spawn into you like usual.


Iron Wolf, you really should work for CCP!

Infantry need to go to a Supply Depot to switch out their gear (Which most tankers conveniently blow up). Tankers can recall and then call their vehicle back in wherever. What was that about double standards?

If you want to keep your vehicle recall as is, infantry need to be able to changed their dropsuit wherever as well.

If you were able to push up and capture the depot, we wouldn't have to blow it up. But when the enemy team starts spamming any kind of AV at us, and the team is unable to push up and capture it, then we blow it up.

Infantry need to go to a Supply Depot to switch out their gear (Which most tankers conveniently blow up). Tankers can recall and then call their vehicle back in wherever. What was that about double standards?

If you want to keep your vehicle recall as is, infantry need to be able to changed their dropsuit wherever as well.

funny how you put so much emphasis on how you "need" supply depots, if they were that important to you infantry, then why don't you defend it when the enemy is going for it? every game im in, you just hack it and leave then wonder why we blew it up after it turned red.

Agreed. Tanks should either have to go to a depot for a recall, or have an RDV come and pick up the recalled vehicle.

Swarming a tank that dissolves into thin air before it blows is infuriating.

Good job ignoring the real point. See the thing is you sort of just trapped yourself because the point you tankers were making was INFANTRY GET TO CHANGE AT SUPPLY DEPOTS ZOMG. Well you just said it yourself. We need to capture a supply depot to do that. What do tankers need to do to change their fit? Absolutely nothing. Just pop out and recall.

Now your next point is prolly gonna be "WELL BLUEBERRIES HOP IN MY TANK AND I CAN'T RECAL HURR DURR" and that's a bit besides the point considering 1.5 is in the nearby future and a vehicle lock is probably coming very soon. And since these are just suggestions and CCP has yet to show interest any of these proposed ideas, then if they actually were to take interest it would take months before we saw it's implementation.

Of course I'm not suggesting that every part of a tank should function like infantry dropsuits. Far from it. I'm just pointing out a flawed argument I've seen in this thread and trying to get tankers to calm down and see that the mechanic they are using is broken. I think RDVs should pick up the vehicle, and I see nothing unreasonable about that.

Being shot at by and invisible guy who doesn't even have to aim his gun is infuriating.

Good job ignoring the real point. See the thing is you sort of just trapped yourself because the point you tankers were making was INFANTRY GET TO CHANGE AT SUPPLY DEPOTS ZOMG. Well you just said it yourself. We need to capture a supply depot to do that. What do tankers need to do to change their fit? Absolutely nothing. Just pop out and recall.

Now your next point is prolly gonna be "WELL BLUEBERRIES HOP IN MY TANK AND I CAN'T RECAL HURR DURR" and that's a bit besides the point considering 1.5 is in the nearby future and a vehicle lock is probably coming very soon. And since these are just suggestions and CCP has yet to show interest any of these proposed ideas, then if they actually were to take interest it would take months before we saw it's implementation.

Of course I'm not suggesting that every part of a tank should function like infantry dropsuits. Far from it. I'm just pointing out a flawed argument I've seen in this thread and trying to get tankers to calm down and see that the mechanic they are using is broken. I think RDVs should pick up the vehicle, and I see nothing unreasonable about that.

actually, we cant recall whenever we want, if were taking damage, the recall time gets increased, especially if we get down a fraction of our health.

its a double standard and you cant stand that vehicles have something that allows them to survive and you cant solo it

Hardly flawed. If Infantry wants a Supply Depot they should defend their assets rather than leave it open for me to destroy which I will so I don't have you guys exploiting never ending AV grenades.

Can you guys please think about what you're writing? You are letting bias cloud your thoughts. I was just trying to point out that infantry can't just swap out whenever they want to, they need a supply depot. You also mentioned that tankers often blow those up in self-defense. Thus we can no longer change our fits whenever.

So why can tankers just recall whenever they want? You're talking apples and oranges.

then when your at a supply depot, you shouldnt be able to switch out your dropsuits while your taking damage.

all that needs to change is that an RDV needs to actually come to pick it up physically

Hardly flawed. If Infantry wants a Supply Depot they should defend their assets rather than leave it open for me to destroy which I will so I don't have you guys exploiting never ending AV grenades.

maybe if your aim didn't suck you would actually destroy the tank before it recalled

maybe if your aim didn't suck you would actually destroy the tank before it recalled

Well you see thats thing, you can take damage while your in the menu choosing your new suit, your then invincible while your suit is constructed.

But here is the thing, changing from a medium suit, to another medium suit with at least the same health or above does not repair your suit, it gives you the same health even if your new suit had a higher maximum.

Although by contradiction if you change from 1 suit size to another say medium to a heavy, then you get a suit with all its health back!! Now the simplest way to stop that would be to give the heavy a percentage of health based on the remaining percentage on the medium!!

However, this doesnt stop the fact, that a tank who feels he is loosing will just retreat to the red zone recall it, bring in another completely ignoring the fact that he nearly lost his previous because now he has a brand new shiny one.

So here is what propose, you can keep your magic alien abduction recall, but if you call in another tank with same hull, then the health (and ammo percentage remainig come 1.5) are transposed to the new vechile, et voila tankers get to keep their magic recall, av attempts are no longer completly wasted by a tanker recalling his vechile!!

Sorry to burst your bubble mate but endless grenade by standing on nanohivesor supply depots was fixed 1.3, you get a maximum of 5 grenades from a supply depot, then it just stops giving them to you, even if you change suits!! The base amount are replenished when you switch suits but you should have an infantry squad to capatilise on avers hastily changing suits!!