Objective hack locations are to be protected from "long range" attacks and any snipers if at all possible.

Your new maps are totally sniper unfriendly. No high points, most facilities have fences on the roof and around the building. So snipers have to find a spot where they can watch for targets, because a sniper rifle is absolutely no good as an assault weapon, and the scout suits are so weak, in shield and armor.

Now add on to this that we have to actually take a step, or fire our weapon, which can give away our position because just scanning an area zooming in and out looking for a target trips the "TACNET sessions will expire if no action is taken" and if we see something coming through the buildings (so we don't want to give away our position) we are kicked out!

This is absolutely **! I played a long time to get to lvl 5 scout so I could use it for sniping. A LOT of time and also money to try to have something to enjoy playing the game.

What a waste. If I could, I would want all my money that I put into the game back, and would even like to get paid for the wasted time.

Please do something about this timer, at least for snipers. You created the suit, yet you continuously ignore the pleads of those using the scout suit - but you gladly listen to and respond to everyone who cries about afk'rs and the op sniper. A scout (especially a sniper using a scout suit) needs to be able to use the equipment that you make them work so hard to try to get leveled into, yet is then crippled even more by whiners that you listen to and want to take care of - not thinking about those of us that need to lay still, or move slowly.

Addendum: Not fair that you add any deaths to my count, but not the kills if I leave or am kicked trying to snipe. If Imust loose equipment and have that death tallied, then I should also get credit for any kills.

UP AND WAIT UNTIL YOU GET MORE MAPS THAT DO SUPPORT SNIPERS.

Objective hack locations are to be protected from "long range" attacks and any snipers if at all possible.

right.... some how i don't believe that is true with the older maps, maybe with the newer ones to some degree or another but its not really snipers that worry me its the forge gunners using then like sniper rifles to stop any and all hacks on objectives.

For the sniping rules. Remember. This applies to sockets only.

For those believing we need a better system where players are the solution to snipers, we also believe this. Game design will be working something for this out eventually. I have discussed this before on IRC at least and possibly here on the forums. The design team would like to come up with something effective that makes the players a part of that experience. For example, and I stress this is an "example" idea only. A player can laser sight a sniper location allowing other players to more easily hit a sniping location with mortars.

With that being said, take into consideration again, the rule only applies to sockets. With height variations in terrain, and sockets sitting on various heights, other variously sized objects on the terrain not inside actual sockets, and the variations of terrain in of its self, the snipers have plenty of locations to snipe from still.

Sniper - definition "a marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place"

1. This can't be done anymore at long range because of your new parameters.
2. The actual operation of the sniper rifle in-game prevents it from being used effectively at closer ranges.
3. Once spotted, the sniper is always within range of other weapons. Sniper survivability plummets by this.
4. The sniper rifle needs the ability to engage combatants at mid-range mobility combat, in order to compete with the current rules.

Sniper - definition "a marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place"

1. This can't be done anymore at long range because of your new parameters.
2. The actual operation of the sniper rifle in-game prevents it from being used effectively at closer ranges.
3. Once spotted, the sniper is always within range of other weapons. Sniper survivability plummets by this.
4. The sniper rifle needs the ability to engage combatants at mid-range mobility combat, in order to compete with the current rules.

It can be done. Use tactics, use strategy, coordinate with your team / squad, and find good locations. Strategy, tactics, teamwork.

While you may think we are trying to prevent you from playing your role, we are not. You do not even know the actual meter count, or ranges that make up the rules. You only know that we have taken measures to ensure snipers are not in mass dominating an entire map (like Manus Peak).

This is the direction that leadership wants this, because they have a vision of what the game play is to be for every role, and how each role supports one another. The sniper is not dead.

Our goal, and it has been achieved with this socket set, is preventing entire areas from being completely dominated by snipers. Biomass and Communications is another great example. Where the only access to those top areas is a dropship, and an army of snipers reside there. Dominating an entire outpost. This is not "fun" for the people who are playing the game the way we intended it to be played.

We use sight lines, the rule set I discussed earlier, and general layouts to encourage effective game play from each role. Strategy and tactics entails using logic, and planning, coordination with others, effective dropsuit fittings, and weapons load-outs. What we are encouraging is "thinking".

You can still snipe, you can still be useful to your team. If you so desire to try and play with your squads and other players in an effective way.

Good post is good. I'm all for snipers, and as a non-sniper and I have *definitely* seen an improvement in accessibility to enemy snipers when I need to go hunt them down.

Just means they'll need to be on their toes. Maybe invest in dropsuit scan skills, and stay alert to their radars. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm fairly sure that's what he meant by "thinking".

Snipers aren't dead. No risk/low risk snipers are dead. And good riddance.