It turns out I was wrong, this time!

You have (mostly) all helped clear up the confusion here for me.

While it is hitscan, it is programmed in such a way that is is meant to mimic the way a real gun would fire, to an extent.

*Multiple hitscan lines to mimic dispersion and multiple projectiles

*Delayed initial damage output to mimic bullet travel time

*Intermittent damage output to mimic bullet travel time

Thanks guys!

P.S COD has hit scans too. So if you didn't know, I just blew your mind O.O

I didn't simply restate my opinion as you say. I offered evidence refuting other people's opinions.

Go ahead and laugh too, i don't really care.

Until a DEV actually says that it is indeed hitscan, I'm of the opinion it is not. I have stated my reasoning for this opinion.

Everyone on here ridiculing me for my opinion, which I have offered strong evidence to support, has shown absolutely no evidence whatsoever that it is hitscan. You are simply assuming that it is because other games (not all games) use hitscan.

So yea, go ahead and laugh it up.

We aren't assuming anything, the devs saod those types of weapons were hits can because it was easier for the servers to process. Not every weapon is a jitscan weapon, but all the automatics, rifles, and the scrambler pistols, and smog are hit scan.

I keep seeing some state that weapons with a high RoF are "hitscan" weapons.

Hitscan means there is an invisible line, and if you cross the path of this line you automatically take damage.

When you are being shot, you may notice some bullets flying past you because of dispersion, while some of the bullets are landing, it means you are not being shot with a "hitscan weapon"

"hitscan weapon":

Laser Rifle

Not "hitscan weapons":

AR
ScR
SR
ScP
SMG
HMG

For these weapons to do any damage the projectile actually has to hit you.

AoE Weapons.

For these weapons to do any damage the projectile or splash actually has to hit you.

EDIT:

It turns out I was wrong, this time!

You have (mostly) all helped clear up the confusion here for me.

While it is hitscan, it is programmed in such a way that is is meant to mimic the way a real gun would fire, to an extent.

*Multiple hitscan lines to mimic dispersion and multiple projectiles

*Delayed initial damage output to mimic bullet travel time

*Intermittent damage output to mimic bullet travel time

Thanks guys!

Just so you know, we've already found the source of the problem, which was OP's misunderstanding of the term "hitscan", and he's not only admitted his mistake, but edited the OP and thread title to reflect his recognition of the mistake.

You're late.

well i should now apologize for being a bit of an ass

Master: +1 for being an adult and changing your thread title.

(I intend to reward every instance of rational, civil behavior I see on these forums.)

But he's still wrong!

Halo 4 does not have those three stupid things he listed, and it was a multi million dollar project.

Holyshit it is literally just a strobe laser. THATS IT!

Trying to set an example.

I learned a long time ago if you are proven wrong, you save face just simply admitting you were wrong. Insisting you are right when you run out of logical arguments simply makes you look like an immature foolish jackass!

*Multiple hitscan lines to mimic dispersion and multiple projectiles

*Delayed initial damage output to mimic bullet travel time

*Intermittent damage output to mimic bullet travel time


THESE 3 THINGS DO NOT EXIST.

Really now?

Do you have any evidence to support this?

I surely offered plenty evidence to support that they do. Even others who have posted in this thread seem to agree that they do. If you can support your statement, I would be more than happy to consider the evidence.

i can tell you weapons like snipers and ARs certainly dont have bulllet travel time. it is an instantaneous damage transferral, or however long it takes for the computing to happen and send you back a ding and the enemy a death lol

Sniper Rifles do have projectile travel time. I spent quite a lot of time as a sniper on an alt, I can assure you it does.

Another little tidbit for this thread that Wolfman told me. I was wondering whether large railguns fired projectiles or used hitscan. He said they were projectiles but he was considering changing them to hitscan as they were so fast anyway that it wouldn't have made a big difference.

your letting your brain play tricks on you because you keep leaning on what your eyes are seeing via the bullet animations rather than what is actually happening.

bullet animations are purely cosmetic and do not actually represent what your gun is doing aside from telling you if it is being fired or not.

Interesting. I wonder if this also applies to the FG and Sniper rifle, as they are both semiauto railguns as well.

I'm positive the FG is not hitscan.

Actually, I am basing this off of how I receive damage from long range shots, not the animations.

But how can you do that? When you get shot, how do you know that the tracer you saw was from the bullet that hit you moments later, rather than a previous bullet. This would require some very deliberate testing to be sure.

I think the fact that we generally don't notice bullet delays when shooting at something (other than the network latency) is much stronger evidence that no such delaying exists. Also it doesn't really make sense for a technical reason, which is a bit difficult to explain:

If there is code which delays application of the damage based on distance, the hit detection would still have to be based on the initial scan (because that one tells you the distance to base the delay on). This means that even if the target then moves, it would still be hit with no chance to dodge the bullet. Why would CCP do that? And even if it's in the game for some reason, the actual relevance for gameplay would be close to nil anyway.

Good point. It would definitely require some deliberate testing. Two players would have to be on coms, one says when he fires the other says when he gets hit.

*Multiple hitscan lines to mimic dispersion and multiple projectiles

*Delayed initial damage output to mimic bullet travel time

*Intermittent damage output to mimic bullet travel time


THESE 3 THINGS DO NOT EXIST.

What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

Even that is subject to variation because of the delay sending information via the battle server.