I turn off aim assist in any game by default. So no, I dont have miracle kills.

Well your argument is that KB/M fps players have years more experience. Yet you give us examples of great feats of aiming from KB/M users back when their experience was equal to pad users today.
If your argument was valid, there would be no "story time" for you to speak of, since KB/M players would be just as hopeless as your PC-elitism suggests pad users are today.

Actually, yes.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ms-killed-pc-xbox-cross-platform-play

"Is this why the project was killed? Who knows, but I'd love to hear from anyone involved - what happened?"

Is not conclusive why MS stopped the project ... it could easily been because Console gamer's are just lazy, and they just don't like to "Work Hard" to win.

No ones in the full Article they said that was because the "KB/M" specifically.

Occam-¦s Razor

I'll belive it when I feel it, cause if you remember they said aiming was overhauled and improved for Uprising as well... We seen how that turned out..

Occam-¦s Razor

But... my theory is the simplest of the competing theories... so by that logic, i am right and you are wrong ?

Your theory is deeply embedded in you personal gaming ideology, methinks, and resists evidence to the contrary.

With a Keyboard and mouse you using practically you full upper torso... both hands, all you fingers, both of you arms, shoulders, and neck... you brain have to work twice as hard to coordinate all the fingers in BOTH of you hands, constantly none stop.

With the DS3 you using 4 fingers .... that is all....most of the "Hard Work " is done for you... without even thinking about it.

So it is "Logical", that the DS3 will eventually make you brain lazy.. compared to the busy mental activity that you have with the KB/M.

It's Elementary, My Dear Watson....

What kind of creepy console players have you met?

I have no idea how I could be using a controller if I didnGÇÖt use my upper torso, both hands, all my fingers, both my arms, shoulders and my neck. Do you think we lie down placidly on our sides using four fingers to somehow move the controller? What? How? Maybe some people have these awesome controllers that hold them upright and move their hands for them, but I sure donGÇÖt have one. I use six fingers to move and whatnot (thumbs on sticks/buttons, index fingers L1/R1, middle fingers L2/R2) and the other four are actually holding the controller in my hands. If I let go of those, the controller has this funny habit of falling from my hands.

And what comes to KB/M and controller debate, the mouse will always be superior as your hand-eye coordination is better than your thumb-eye coordination. It is easier to follow a target using your entire hand instead of just your thumb. My problem is not with the mouse, I can aim that perfectly fine, my problem is with the keyboard. I donGÇÖt find it comfortable and I donGÇÖt have anywhere I could actually put it while I play, nor the mouse for that matter. I have desk that is on the other side of the room and for me to use it I would have to change everything around. But thatGÇÖs not the biggest issue; my biggest issue is that I have no interest in playing at a desk. I play console games to sit on my couch comfortably, not at a desk where I already have to spend most of my day (working at an office). When I come home I want none of that.

Little fingers hooked under controller for support, with palms gripping.
Ring fingers on L2/R2.
Middle fingers on L1/R1.
Index fingers on d-pad and face buttons.
Thumbs on sticks. Controller held above lap while sitting up straight.

Pretty sure I'm using more than just 4 fingers like that.

Alternatively, AC Grip.
Thumbs on shoulder buttons.
Index and middle fingers on face buttons.
Ring fingers on sticks.
Little fingers and palms supporting controller.

As opposed to how I used to play PC FPS games.

Slumped across a chair with a beanbag on it, hand resting on the edge of table, with fingers on keyboard, and my other hand reting on the mouse only needing to slide around, not holding anything up with any part of my body except my neck.

Yep. Console gaming is definitely the "lazy" option. That's why I do it.

3 fingers to control movement ; 1 finger for UP and DOWN, 1 for LEFT, 1 for RIGHT
1 Finger to Jump, crouch...and many other functions, when you other finger is doing lots of other functions.

That ^ is 5 finger constantly working ACROSS the full keyboard.. right to left, left to right.. when at the same time you have to remember where every key is in a Board that have "104 keys"... and that is only ONE hand....

You right hand is constantly moving right / left / up /down to aim.. when 3 fingers in your mouse are finding buttons to aim, shoot, and reload ...

You surprise me a bit... i have to say...

Wow you're weird. You need to keep track of every key on the keyboard even though you're only using about 15 of them? I don't get it...

Also, most functions are in easy thumb reach without needing to move fingers from the movement keys, so I tend to not bother wasting effort on moving my hand all over the keyboard just to get at the spacebar.

You also said you can't comfortably use your keyboard laying down. On the rare occasions where I've pulled my KB/M setup out for DUST, I've been more comfortable laying down across my couch with a wooden chopping board tohold the mousepad.

And while you just need to twitch a finger with no thought beyond "twitch" to achieve movement, I have to move my thumb in a specific direction relating to where I want my character to go. The thought involved in making precise direction-specific movements as opposed to "twitch" is much more complex and involved.

Lastly, for someone computer-literate, you generally have at least an approximation of the position of most keys settled into your mind even when you don't normally play games on PC, so arguing that you need that "specialised" knowledge and/or experience doesn't really apply in a world where the majority are computer literate.

...yeah, this argument was getting stupid before it even started... Fun though!

You need to keep track of every key on the keyboard even though you're only using about 15 of them

ONLY 15 ? .... yeah.. i see what you mean. And actually ... i normally just press any key randomly to i find they key that i want...if you see me doing a weird dance in the game when trowing random grenades into the air... THAT is why.

With mouse control, KB/M has an analog style input. This means theoretically infinite inputs on that function alone, negating the argument about buttons.

But wait! Console players use dual analog sticks! INFINITE INPUTS... TWICE! And unlike the mouse, which gives you a WHOLE HAND to make those inputs, you only get to use ONE THUMB for each INFINITE INPUTS stick!

More seriously though, you use about 15 buttons between keyboard and mouse, to reproduce the functions provided by... about 15 buttons... on the sixaxis controller.

Either way, you have to learn which button is where on whichever control type you're using, and become fluent in accessing those buttons at a moment's notice. There really isn't a solid argument about one or the other requiring more thought in a game where every function can be handled with a sixaxis controller.

Are you trying to say... that is not the control you using.. but HOW "you" using the control that makes you a "good" player ?

Looks like we went different directions, and ended up in the same place.... what about that ?

The mouse is a direct input device, of course is going to be more responsive...but constant head shots with the current mouse setup ? You see, now i know you trolling...if you stopped on a "better K/D ratio" it will been more believable... even that i seriously dough that is the case. According to some of you guys...( Mega Trolls ) the mouse instantly makes people Pro-Players just by touching it....actually.. no... if you "look at it", you instantly become a FPS god.