Requoted my reply to that post to show that Jason can't defend his anti-AV stance.

Just saw Jason Pearson in a skirmish match I was AFKing in, he was in his gunnlogi (solo tanking from what I could tell).

Figured I would share the post-match results, which does paint a pretty good picture of how hard tankers have it right now.

http://i.imgur.com/FYPMIue.jpg

I can only imagine how many militia swarms were making his life miserable in that match.

If it only took one picture of an exceptional performance to establish the OP/UP of something in the game, I think most people would be able to get a weapon nerfed each week.

A couple of weeks ago I went 31/2 in a 30k light frame fitting. OP right? Nerf those damn scouts etc etc.

Alternatively we could consider the very consistent performance you have on these forums.
I.e. you're a moaning little biatch and everybody is bored of you.

Im am a tanker,and in my opinion CCP need to do is increase speed of the tanks,and restrict AV ers to go on the towers.
Bechause if youre good tank pilot you will be 70% unkillable by AV infantry.(with shield tank 90%)
In my gunnlogi fit I can drive around get like 30/0 or higher if Im constantly in the move.
But the reall threat to my tank is enemy tank.I can survive in my gunlogi like 4,5 pro swarms,or 4,5 lay day nades before im dead,
but as soon I get hitted by only one nade or swarm i will run,and that strategy saved my tank a lot of times.
Dont be a hero while in your tank,bechause you will die.

Biggest nemesis for shield tankers is another tank,for armour tank is AV player.

Actually most tankers would be happy to just not die as often. When I was a tanker I know I would have gladly lowered my damage output if I could have had more survivability. Tankers just want their expensive toys to not get blown up so easily. Not go 20/0, that's just a bonus for the good tankers.

Holy **** i guess ill explain a simple concept. This is like saying a scout suit (weak suit) is not UP (underpowered) by getting same score (35-0).

The logic behind this statement is skill can produce these numbers even if the equipment used isn't up to par with other things.

Stay in school kids..

I agree, too much moaning from everyone, including me. I started moaning as I personally got tired of going against tankers whom get 20+/0 in every ambush totally annihilating everything within sight and getting spawned killed repeatedly by the camping tank. This was not enough to get me moaning, but the moaning of the tankers complaining that not all matches ends with 20+/0 in their favor. They complain that no team mates will help fend off hostile AV while they at the same time moan about team mates jumping in their tank to use the turrets.

Once the tankers stop war point farming by destroying all structures within sight and start to help out the team I will start help them by actively risc my clone to hunt down hostile AV. I have dropships and like trying to get tower campers away. But I will not risc my clone or dropships to help any selfish tanker.

Selfish tanker, huh? I don't know if you realise, but most Depots are on major traffic routes. They change hands frequently, so much so that I can't rely on the blues to hold it consistently. If, say, I push Charlie on Line Harvest with the infantry, my best escape route is up the back road past Bravo. Right past the depot. If it 's red, I'm in great danger of things like infinite AV nades. With a hive or two, they'll restock faster than you can throw them. That means I die.

What I'm trying to say is if you infantry could consistently HOLD supply depots and turrets, we wouldn't feel the need to destroy them.

I know even if installations didn't give ridiculously high WP for destruction, I'd still kill them. What with auto-targeting, they're too dangerous to let live.

So hack them, and keep them blue.

QQ

Selfish tanker, huh? I don't know if you realise, but most Depots are on major traffic routes. They change hands frequently, so much so that I can't rely on the blues to hold it consistently. If, say, I push Charlie on Line Harvest with the infantry, my best escape route is up the back road past Bravo. Right past the depot. If it 's red, I'm in great danger of things like infinite AV nades. With a hive or two, they'll restock faster than you can throw them. That means I die.

What I'm trying to say is if you infantry could consistently HOLD supply depots and turrets, we wouldn't feel the need to destroy them.

I know even if installations didn't give ridiculously high WP for destruction, I'd still kill them. What with auto-targeting, they're too dangerous to let live.

So hack them, and keep them blue.

Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo

Says the guy in a tank that can still 1 piece a 15 mil proto heavy from a hill with no SP investment whatsoever. Militia tanks bro, been seeing more of them lately since dem noobs realized they can 1 piece the proto's running amok and just dip back behind a hill. No SP, can 1 piece any infantry. Next?

Just saw Jason Pearson in a skirmish match I was AFKing in, he was in his gunnlogi (solo tanking from what I could tell).

Figured I would share the post-match results, which does paint a pretty good picture of how hard tankers have it right now.

http://i.imgur.com/FYPMIue.jpg

I can only imagine how many militia swarms were making his life miserable in that match.

I see, so only experienced/smart AVers can take out experienced tankers.

Thanks for the clarification.

Must be a lot of smart experienced AV players out there judging by the level of QQ from tankers regarding AV.

oh i see you were afking... suuuuure you were afking....uh huh....yup.....

Read the thread, I was on Jason's team.

And 32/1 with the PC, I'd love to see that. Not doubting it's possible, but probably quite difficult to pull off on a regular basis.

Sure you did.

*cough* liar *cough*

Stop driving close enough to get nailed by nades, then you can stop crying about getting hit by nades.

I see, so only experienced/smart AVers can take out experienced tankers.

Thanks for the clarification.

Must be a lot of smart experienced AV players out there judging by the level of QQ from tankers regarding AV.

You're so full of **** I can smell it from here.

Let's repeat this all out loud together.
Only bad tankers get killed by solo AVers.

It seriously takes ever single swarm shot I have, at proto with multiple damage mods, to kill most tanks. Not to mention shield tanks and LLAVs are basically invincible to it. Especially considering how slow swarm missiles fly and how they track directly which leads to them flying right into everything but the target.

Said it before, I'm sure I'll say it again. Tankers are the biggest cry babies.

Have to agree Av players dont only have to deal with the tank. Alot of times they must aswell deal with the infantry running around it. And a guy with a swarm launcher is a easy picking for some 1 with a AR.

So if tanks get buffed, they will be (even more) invincible in pub matches cause they are so easy.

I understand.

lol. I can tell you exactly how much AV there was that match: one Soma with a missile turret. With two tanks rolling around on our side.

Get down onto the battlefield next time.

EDITed cos I'm apparently unable to spell.

You're so full of **** I can smell it from here.

Let's repeat this all out loud together.
Only bad tankers get killed by solo AVers.

It seriously takes ever single swarm shot I have, at proto with multiple damage mods, to kill most tanks. Not to mention shield tanks and LLAVs are basically invincible to it. Especially considering how slow swarm missiles fly and how they track directly which leads to them flying right into everything but the target.

Said it before, I'm sure I'll say it again. Tankers are the biggest cry babies.