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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
250
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:24:00 -
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0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:35/0 , yes they have it hard Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo you are living in a fantasy world
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1125
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:24:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:
So if tanks get buffed, they will be (even more) invincible in pub matches cause they are so easy.
I understand.
neither your ranting about tanks being balanced nor tankers qq about AV will change CCPs course in regards to future patches, they look at the data and do whatever they think is appropriate, now that the reasonable reply is out of the way, QQ moar you douche-bag, tanker had a good game against ppl who were clearly crap, ppl post the same scores with sniper rifles and ARs.
Do people with sniper rifles and AR's complain that they are UP? I would sure hope not.
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0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:24:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:35/0 , yes they have it hard Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo you are living in a fantasy world So are you play a pc match |
0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:26:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:
So if tanks get buffed, they will be (even more) invincible in pub matches cause they are so easy.
I understand.
neither your ranting about tanks being balanced nor tankers qq about AV will change CCPs course in regards to future patches, they look at the data and do whatever they think is appropriate, now that the reasonable reply is out of the way, QQ moar you douche-bag, tanker had a good game against ppl who were clearly crap, ppl post the same scores with sniper rifles and ARs. Do people with sniper rifles and AR's complain that they are UP? I would sure hope not. How about scouts, heavies, shotguns? They can go 35 and 0 in a pub |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
472
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:26:00 -
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0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:35/0 , yes they have it hard Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo You're so full of **** I can smell it from here.
Let's repeat this all out loud together. Only bad tankers get killed by solo AVers.
It seriously takes ever single swarm shot I have, at proto with multiple damage mods, to kill most tanks. Not to mention shield tanks and LLAVs are basically invincible to it. Especially considering how slow swarm missiles fly and how they track directly which leads to them flying right into everything but the target.
Said it before, I'm sure I'll say it again. Tankers are the biggest cry babies. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
250
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:27:00 -
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0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:35/0 , yes they have it hard Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo you are living in a fantasy world So are you play a pc match yes what are you who
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Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
472
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:28:00 -
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0bi wan-jacobi wrote:Im crying Your words. Not mine. |
0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:28:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote: Is a beast player not already close to invincible with the sp gap and skill level difference?
Probably gotta agree with you on that one. So what's the problem, tanks require skill to do well in. Or do we want to make tanks easy-street so anybody could call one in and become invincible? Im complaining about PC matches, not pubs with people anywhere from 2000 warpoints to millions |
Beld Errmon
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
824
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:28:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:
Do people with sniper rifles and AR's complain that they are UP? I would sure hope not.
Yep, usually when a tank doesn't die from being shot at by them..... like when pole smokers like you qq about tanks in ambush. |
0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:29:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:35/0 , yes they have it hard Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo You're so full of **** I can smell it from here. Let's repeat this all out loud together. Only bad tankers get killed by solo AVers.It seriously takes ever single swarm shot I have, at proto with multiple damage mods, to kill most tanks. Not to mention shield tanks and LLAVs are basically invincible to it. Especially considering how slow swarm missiles fly and how they track directly which leads to them flying right into everything but the target. Said it before, I'm sure I'll say it again. Tankers are the biggest cry babies. Hypocritical, you whining about having to shoot your AV weapon a few times. |
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0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:30:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:35/0 , yes they have it hard Says the guy who has to drop 600k sp to take out 15 mil sp tanks solo you are living in a fantasy world So are you play a pc match yes what are you who Zatara |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1125
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:31:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:lol. I can tell you exactly how much AV there was that match: one Soma with a missile turret. With two tanks rolling around on our side.
Get down onto the battlefield next time.
EDITed cos I'm apparently unable to spell.
I was on your guy's team, plus I hate skirmish, I just go there to AFK or when a squad pulls me into it.
Plus I seriously doubt an assault forge would have made a lick of difference in that battle, two tanks and maple running around with his shotgun?
I would have been lucky to not have been spawn killed, let alone have enough time to run somewhere to put my forge to good use. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2888
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:33:00 -
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Hi, thanks for grabbing this picture, as you cannot see it, I had Exmaple, Spkr4thedead and Lorhak in my Squad
Exmaple was next to my tank constantly in a scout shotgun fit, he was rinsing the AVers Spkr4thedead was running a rep tank and was constantly hitting me up Lorhak was off doing his thing with Exmaple.
I had a pure buffer tank, unable to rep itself or support my Logi Tank, I had idiots rushing my tank with AV Nades and Militia Swarms, and I'm pretty sure this was an American server, as the skill level of the AVers dropped immensely.
(Next match I went 9/0 because AV pinned me down, in the end I switched to a Sniper Rifle.)
So to clarify, I was in a squad working together with good players who understand how to tank, I had a player purely dedicated to me as well as killing turrets. We were fighting people with barely any AV otherwise I'd be dead.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1421
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:34:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Low skilled tankers have it hard.
High skilled tankers just faceroll to victory. How do you expect players to get good if you make it unenjoyable and utterly self defeating to skill into and use? |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
309
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:36:00 -
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0bi wan-jacobi wrote:OZAROW wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:This is like saying a scout suits not up by getting the same score. Same logic lol Huh? Holy **** i guess ill explain a simple concept. This is like saying a scout suit (weak suit) is not UP (underpowered) by getting same score (35-0). The logic behind this statement is skill can produce these numbers even if the equipment used isn't up to par with other things. Stay in school kids.. Obi calling a foul here. No tacit linking of HAV and scout suits. There is an issue with scout suits all around. HAVs are a far more complicated matter that can't be solved by nerfing AV and/or buffing power grid. Because unlike scout suits a HAV can dominate battle. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
250
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:38:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Low skilled tankers have it hard.
High skilled tankers just faceroll to victory. How do you expect players to get good if you make it unenjoyable and utterly self defeating to skill into and use?
its called a learning process
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0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:38:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:OZAROW wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:This is like saying a scout suits not up by getting the same score. Same logic lol Huh? Holy **** i guess ill explain a simple concept. This is like saying a scout suit (weak suit) is not UP (underpowered) by getting same score (35-0). The logic behind this statement is skill can produce these numbers even if the equipment used isn't up to par with other things. Stay in school kids.. Obi calling a foul here. No tacit linking of HAV and scout suits. There is an issue with scout suits all around. HAVs are a far more complicated matter that can't be solved by nerfing AV and/or buffing power grid. Because unlike scout suits a HAV can dominate battle. The logic was its not always what you use its whos using it. ffs |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1125
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:40:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Hi, thanks for grabbing this picture, as you cannot see it, I had Exmaple, Spkr4thedead and Lorhak in my Squad
Exmaple was next to my tank constantly in a scout shotgun fit, he was rinsing the AVers Spkr4thedead was running a rep tank and was constantly hitting me up Lorhak was off doing his thing with Exmaple.
I had a pure buffer tank, unable to rep itself or support my Logi Tank, I had idiots rushing my tank with AV Nades and Militia Swarms, and I'm pretty sure this was an American server, as the skill level of the AVers dropped immensely.
(Next match I went 9/0 because AV pinned me down, in the end I switched to a Sniper Rifle.)
So to clarify, I was in a squad working together with good players who understand how to tank, I had a player purely dedicated to me as well as killing turrets. We were fighting people with barely any AV otherwise I'd be dead.
Sounds like there was plenty of AV, but since you had a tank-support squad it was nullified. ie, working as intended.
So what is the problem with tanks vs AV again?
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1421
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:40:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:True Adamance wrote:Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:Low skilled tankers have it hard.
High skilled tankers just faceroll to victory. How do you expect players to get good if you make it unenjoyable and utterly self defeating to skill into and use? its called a learning process I'm learning but going up against 3x 1200 damange dealing Lai Dais in my, admittedly ******, soma just doesn't do it for me.
Can I get a bit of movement speed up in here? That's all I think tanks really need.
I'll be the first to admit I learnt some hard lessons and ran through about 20+ Somas to realise them before finding what I wanted to do.
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
10
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:41:00 -
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It seems like the other team did really badly, probably because you weren't out there to help them. Think that might have had anything to do with it?
Omg someone went 35/0, whatever they are using is obviously OP.
By you're logic the Plasma Cannon is OP because my friend can go 32/1 with it. Stop whining about losing, especially when you are AFKing, it really makes you look like scum |
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0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:42:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Hi, thanks for grabbing this picture, as you cannot see it, I had Exmaple, Spkr4thedead and Lorhak in my Squad
Exmaple was next to my tank constantly in a scout shotgun fit, he was rinsing the AVers Spkr4thedead was running a rep tank and was constantly hitting me up Lorhak was off doing his thing with Exmaple.
I had a pure buffer tank, unable to rep itself or support my Logi Tank, I had idiots rushing my tank with AV Nades and Militia Swarms, and I'm pretty sure this was an American server, as the skill level of the AVers dropped immensely.
(Next match I went 9/0 because AV pinned me down, in the end I switched to a Sniper Rifle.)
So to clarify, I was in a squad working together with good players who understand how to tank, I had a player purely dedicated to me as well as killing turrets. We were fighting people with barely any AV otherwise I'd be dead.
Sounds like there was plenty of AV, but since you had a tank-support squad it was nullified. ie, working as intended. So what is the problem with tanks vs AV again? Nobody respond to him from here on out period. He isnt worth your time. He is simply a wanna be troll. Someone with the mind of a child that gets entertainment out of others because his life must be lacking of it. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
250
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:43:00 -
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Just because you are in a tank , it doesnt mean you have to be invincible.
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0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:46:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Just because you are in a tank , it doesnt mean you have to be invincible.
Just because your infantry doesn't mean you should defeat everything easily. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
250
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:48:00 -
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0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Just because you are in a tank , it doesnt mean you have to be invincible.
Just because your infantry doesn't mean you should defeat everything easily.
Take a bath
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0bi wan-jacobi
Ancient Exi1es
65
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:49:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:0bi wan-jacobi wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Just because you are in a tank , it doesnt mean you have to be invincible.
Just because your infantry doesn't mean you should defeat everything easily. Take a bath Took a shower |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:50:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:It seems like the other team did really badly, probably because you weren't out there to help them. Think that might have had anything to do with it?
Omg someone went 35/0, whatever they are using is obviously OP.
By you're logic the Plasma Cannon is OP because my friend can go 32/1 with it. Stop whining about losing, especially when you are AFKing, it really makes you look like scum
I must have missed the whole "switch teams" mechanic. How is DJL supposed to switch teams?
He was on the tanker's team.
Now send me 100k ISK for showing you the door.
Edit: punctuation |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
310
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:52:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:By you're logic the Plasma Cannon is OP because my friend can go 32/1 with it. Stop whining about losing, especially when you are AFKing, it really makes you look like scum The OPs point is people who do very well with their weapon of choice shouldn't complain. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
267
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:52:00 -
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lol well spotted OP, for all his crying I thought he was up against PRO AV non stop but i guess he just wants the easy murder wagon crutch |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1126
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:53:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:It seems like the other team did really badly, probably because you weren't out there to help them. Think that might have had anything to do with it?
Omg someone went 35/0, whatever they are using is obviously OP.
By you're logic the Plasma Cannon is OP because my friend can go 32/1 with it. Stop whining about losing, especially when you are AFKing, it really makes you look like scum
Read the thread, I was on Jason's team.
And 32/1 with the PC, I'd love to see that. Not doubting it's possible, but probably quite difficult to pull off on a regular basis. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
1108
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Posted - 2013.08.29 07:59:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Just saw Jason Pearson in a skirmish match I was AFKing in, he was in his gunnlogi (solo tanking from what I could tell). Figured I would share the post-match results, which does paint a pretty good picture of how hard tankers have it right now. http://i.imgur.com/FYPMIue.jpgI can only imagine how many militia swarms were making his life miserable in that match.
notice how he is on the same team as exmaple, they were probably in a squad together with others most likely. it happens quite often. and you also failed to mention how much of a concentration of AV was on the opposite team of them at the time. without those numbers, you have no real credibility. |
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