Nobody respond to him from here on out period. He isnt worth your time. He is simply a wanna be troll. Someone with the mind of a child that gets entertainment out of others because his life must be lacking of it.

Just because your infantry doesn't mean you should defeat everything easily.

Read the thread, I was on Jason's team.

And 32/1 with the PC, I'd love to see that. Not doubting it's possible, but probably quite difficult to pull off on a regular basis.

I guess I could have rammed his tank with an LAV, other than that kinda hard to hurt friendly tankers (I was on his team).

And I thought militia AV was OP against tanks and vehicles? So it's not? And dedicated AV is now required to take out tanks?

Hmm, that is quite a different picture than what the AV QQ threads are painting.

Clearly we cannot, for example Jason's support-squad was taking care of all the AV in that match.

I apologize for not reading the thread completely.

However, I still side with Jason. I used to be a tank driver, and I switched out ASAP because I learned it was a fruitless job. Making a good profit as a tanker is probably one of the hardest things in the game. Now I am mingling in AV, I find it to be much more fun and rewarding, as a single fit costs me less than 40k and I can easily die 5-6 times a match and still make a good profit. As a tanker I could only die once every 5-6 matches in order to make any money. I believe that cheaper tanks would benefit everybody involved. Tankers make money, AVers get to kill more tanks. Win Win.

Just saw Jason Pearson in a skirmish match I was AFKing in, he was in his gunnlogi (solo tanking from what I could tell).

Figured I would share the post-match results, which does paint a pretty good picture of how hard tankers have it right now.

http://i.imgur.com/FYPMIue.jpg

I can only imagine how many militia swarms were making his life miserable in that match.

Here is the problem, you should not put all your skillpoints in tanks and expect to be able to use it in every single match without dying. Use it as support for your infantry role. I cannot use my dedicated support logi in every match, depends allot on the team I am with, I also have a scout which again is not useable in all matches.
The dedicated tankers problems is that they will complain to no end if they are unable to go 20+/0 in every single match. And there must be a balance problem when someone finally manages kill one of their tanks.

Just wait until we get maps with more indoor combat and the tankers will complain they are unable to drive around inside the building.

Thats it jason, void , maple and ladwar lets set up a 5 man spider tank squad with the sole intentions of finding mr mrs leukoplast and compleatly reafirm his hav piles . Lets show him how op we can be if acctually all squad up.

Here is the problem, you should not put all your skillpoints in tanks and expect to be able to use it in every single match without dying. Use it as support for your infantry role. I cannot use my dedicated support logi in every match, depends allot on the team I am with, I also have a scout which again is not useable in all matches.
The dedicated tankers problems is that they will complain to no end if they are unable to go 20+/0 in every single match. And there must be a balance problem when someone finally manages kill one of their tanks.

Just wait until we get maps with more indoor combat and the tankers will complain they are unable to drive around inside the building.

once again, false, we don't care about the kills we get (we really want to kill other vehicles), we just care about the profit

If that is the case, then stop running tanks with expensive large proto turrets, make the tank cheaper. Add nice small turrets and efficient scanners to help out the team and let them get some of the kills and protect your tank. Do not call it in from the beginning of the match, wait and see if the opposing team is setting up tower forge and swarm launchers.

You will easily be able to make a profit if you sincerely did not care about the kills. But no, you have to install 1mill isk expensive turrets to get lots of kills. I am not running proto suits in every match as I would not make any profit. But I can use my only 600k isk expensive tank occasionally and make a profit.

if I do that, my tank wouldn't be as effective as it is.

That is the same with my logi, running advanced and basic logi suits makes me less effective than my proto logi with proto equipment and proto weapons. It is all your choice. Do not expect it to be profitable to run proto all the time, it is not supposed to be profitable running exclusively in proto equipment. Do you ever read QQ threads about proto infantry being mad at getting kille 2-3 times in their 200k+ isk expensive suits? Your proto tanks kills my proto logi in just a few shots.

don't compare vehicles to dropsuits, they are 2 different things.

No, they are not different, why should it be profitable running in proto tanks and not proto dropsuits? It does not make sense, there is a reason many infantry only run proto in PC and mostly use cheaper fits in pub matches. Why should this not apply to vehicle users? Save the expensive proto gear for PC matches and allot of isk as you will loose some, just like a proto infantry can loose 2mill isk on PC matches. And use cheaper vehicles in pub matches.

Sure you did.

*cough* liar *cough*

Took a shower

I would love to have Jason explain his position based off my reply, he was using tanks like they are supposed to be used -- with team support. Yet he QQs about AV being OP against tanks? He just said all the AV was wiped out by his tank support-squad So I ask again, what is the problem with AV vs tanks?

If I could bring in a 1+ million dropsuit, you better believe I am going to bring support. Which does work pretty well, obviously.

Or does Jason, and most other tankers, think they should be able to solo an entire team with their tank and their tank alone?

I apologize for not reading the thread completely.

However, I still side with Jason. I used to be a tank driver, and I switched out ASAP because I learned it was a fruitless job. Making a good profit as a tanker is probably one of the hardest things in the game. Now I am mingling in AV, I find it to be much more fun and rewarding, as a single fit costs me less than 40k and I can easily die 5-6 times a match and still make a good profit. As a tanker I could only die once every 5-6 matches in order to make any money. I believe that cheaper tanks would benefit everybody involved. Tankers make money, AVers get to kill more tanks. Win Win.

Hi, thanks for grabbing this picture, as you cannot see it, I had Exmaple, Spkr4thedead and Lorhak in my Squad

Exmaple was next to my tank constantly in a scout shotgun fit, he was rinsing the AVers
Spkr4thedead was running a rep tank and was constantly hitting me up
Lorhak was off doing his thing with Exmaple.

I had a pure buffer tank, unable to rep itself or support my Logi Tank, I had idiots rushing my tank with AV Nades and Militia Swarms, and I'm pretty sure this was an American server, as the skill level of the AVers dropped immensely.

(Next match I went 9/0 because AV pinned me down, in the end I switched to a Sniper Rifle.)

So to clarify, I was in a squad working together with good players who understand how to tank, I had a player purely dedicated to me as well as killing turrets. We were fighting people with barely any AV otherwise I'd be dead.

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Sounds like there was plenty of AV, but since you had a tank-support squad it was nullified. ie, working as intended.

So what is the problem with tanks vs AV again?

Just saw Jason Pearson in a skirmish match I was AFKing in, he was in his gunnlogi (solo tanking from what I could tell).

Figured I would share the post-match results, which does paint a pretty good picture of how hard tankers have it right now.

http://i.imgur.com/FYPMIue.jpg

I can only imagine how many militia swarms were making his life miserable in that match.

Mr djin leukoplast just stop ......... stop right there. How many dedicated av were on field ??? Oh thats right you wont know because you were afk . Ill tell you the only way us tankers get scores like that is if were met with malitia av and no higher so try again. Yoi certainly are still feeling the good ol hav piles arnt you. Maby if you wernt such a ***** and helpwd your team he might have lost his tank but you desifed to afk because you didnt want any more hav but hurt .