100 billion lol that's funny.. definitely no math majors around here.

+1 for Ninja as this was a great post exposing the issues with current mechanics in PC and locking.

I wish there was a -1 for some of the monkeys throwing fecal matter.

But I suppose it does require widespread abuse or neglect before :metrics: kicks in and CCP take preventative action.

How are you going to give us meaningful feedback before you even try the changes? Or is your brain so awesome that you can look into the future? And while we are on the subject of feedback, guys, a few one liners and a catch word here and there really doesn't help. If you really care about improving the game, then please structure your feedback in a way that will:

1. List specific issues and the circumstance when it happened. We then put these in a weekly report and discuss them with the dev team on ways to address this.

2. Provide insight on why you think this is happening, if you can. Translation, explain as best as you can on how to reproduce the error/bug you encountered.

The patch notes are there to let players know what changes are coming so they can plan their gameplay accordingly, not so that people can theory craft before hand on how things will work before they actually try it.

The mechanic itself was exposed within 12 hours of Team True Grit posting their intended rules. This was back on 10th July, by myself. See my post above.

But I suppose it does require widespread abuse or neglect before :metrics: kicks in and CCP take preventative action.

generally speaking, yes good post, and informative to those with the wool over their eyes.

and also yes my apologies cause my responses to not belong in this area of the forum.

I just tire of stupidity and people who are unwilling to work together to come to an agreement, expecting everything to be put on a platter for them even though they couldn't take it for themselves.

the current predicament is the result of each and every corp on this game not having the guts to stand up and fight for months.

Allow me to retract some of that.. I don't mean 'every' in a literal sense, as there are some out there who did make an effort, and much respect to all of them. believe it or not I maintain a lot of respect for WTF as well.

you say this is all because of greed, and in some ways it certainly is. but know 1 thing... you guys are richer than we are. you say we 'farmed' all this time.. no.. we ATTACKED. u don't make isk if your districts aren't full. and ours have not all been full like, ever.

being on a constant warpath did not pad our wallets, it padded our assets. and now that we agree to divvy up our spoils, you slap us in the face by not even offering anything for our accomplishments?

hit me up when we can have a productive talk and start some negotiations

While I can't say anything concrete yet, Team True Grit are doing things regarding this issue. Wonderful things.

But before you ask, no I don't have a timeline on when it will be added. But it is something we're aware of and working towards squishing.

melee glitch first.

melee glitch first.

While I can't say anything concrete yet, Team True Grit are doing things regarding this issue. Wonderful things.

But before you ask, no I don't have a timeline on when it will be added. But it is something we're aware of and working towards squishing.

There have been some wonderful ideas. Mind you, I don't want to spoil any surprises that might come along, so that's all I'll say for now.

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You say greed? We have a meeting, we are all in agreement we want to end things and restore balance to molden heath. All sides agree, INCLUDING those 27% shareholders (33% at the beginning of the day yesterday btw)

your proposal? hand everything over. charity, be a pal, we don't have any land, but we have a ton of ISk that we have thrown at you for over a week, we have gotten stomped, embarrassed and quite simply outplayed on the battlefield over and over. Even stacking EVERY timer they have couldn't net us but 1 district... 1 DISTRICT!

Ok rant over... I told you last night just like I'm saying now. I am all for relinquishing lands, but provide me a reason, honestly, why I should just hand it over when my guys have dedicated a LOT of effort over the past 2 months to acquire it? WE have alarm clocked several people trying to hide behind timers, We have played relentlessly attacking everyone we could. Many corps put up a good fight, and received districts afterward, thus being no net gain. We EARNED our land, and now you try to take it from us.

Admirable, NOW. the entire galaxy sat back for 2 months and did not do a thing except QQ and 'leave' PC.

Now that you have gained interest again you simply want me to give u the land we rightfully took?

not happening. I'm SELLING the land at reasonable prices. Feel free to ask anyone that actually knows, its the real deal.

your offer to end the war is what again?

O yea that's right "we will let you farm without attacking you for 2 days, then you give us the land"

I understand this is the start of negotiations, and there will be a lot of back and forth, but before you pull me into another chat and force me to spend my time there rather than playing with my friends, just don't waste my time.

you wanna QQ over 100m when that same land can recover that in 8 days? sorry. Better get rid of Donald Fehr and hire a better mitigator, cause you can call it greed all you want. I call it good business.

As for 'locking' down districts? you had your chance to attack and take them. You failed... miserably. yes there were many great battles, which we all look forward to more of in the future. But the fact is you brought everything you had, and we survived. Now we put things back on our terms cause none of you wanted to play fair.

and if I don't sell anymore.. o well. every district I sell I lose ISK if u think about it, and Im, fine with that. Id rather have diversity in PC for the good of the game. but simply handing over what we rightfully conquered? Not happening

My question is this.

What does it matter? 27%? What like 65 districts? So basically you could play the game like there's 180 districts. Is 180 enough for this broken dying game?

Yes.

180 districts even if they choose to lock up and burnout whoever they have sitting on the map everyday is more than enough for 60 corps to fight over.

I don't even know 50 corps that can field 16 man teams. Maybe 40 total.

generally speaking, yes good post, and informative to those with the wool over their eyes.

and also yes my apologies cause my responses to not belong in this area of the forum.

I just tire of stupidity and people who are unwilling to work together to come to an agreement, expecting everything to be put on a platter for them even though they couldn't take it for themselves.

the current predicament is the result of each and every corp on this game not having the guts to stand up and fight for months.

Allow me to retract some of that.. I don't mean 'every' in a literal sense, as there are some out there who did make an effort, and much respect to all of them. believe it or not I maintain a lot of respect for WTF as well.

you say this is all because of greed, and in some ways it certainly is. but know 1 thing... you guys are richer than we are. you say we 'farmed' all this time.. no.. we ATTACKED. u don't make isk if your districts aren't full. and ours have not all been full like, ever.

being on a constant warpath did not pad our wallets, it padded our assets. and now that we agree to divvy up our spoils, you slap us in the face by not even offering anything for our accomplishments?

hit me up when we can have a productive talk and start some negotiations

The fallout of this may help a lot of smaller corps, but the damage to CCP's economic plan for dust has been dramatically altered. There is now over 100 billion isk inflating the use of inappropriate gear and driving up prices once we get an actual economy. I destroyed roughly 3-4 million in TP assets yesterday in ambush over just 2 games. In a normal circumstance this would cause players to avoid bringing more expensive equipment into matches on a gamely basis with isk being a constraint. Now because of an exploit in the system that CCP didn't check when they implemented the system, an entire alliance is living without the same isk constraints as everyone else in the game and will continue to do so until it runs out or down.

Funny that TP would complain on the forums about the melee glitch when in fact they were using their very own exploit that has actually had a negative impact to the entire community. It is like the Pot calling the Kettle black.

While I can't say anything concrete yet, Team True Grit are doing things regarding this issue. Wonderful things.

But before you ask, no I don't have a timeline on when it will be added. But it is something we're aware of and working towards squishing.

Just to clarify does CCP see this as an exploit of the game? Additionally, if so does CCP see this as a violation of the EULA?

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Hopefully this gets adressed before the economy in the game gets worse.

Just to clarify does CCP see this as an exploit of the game? Additionally, if so does CCP see this as a violation of the EULA?