Good because the Assault and Breach MD are working as intended.

Good because the Assault and Breach MD are working as intended.

Melee glitch needs to be explained.

it is just that you think melee does too much damage? If so then it is not a glitch....you can say you think it is OP but cannot claim it is a glitch.

Sota claimed people were using melee at 50 times per second....i fail to see how anyone doing that would not be at zero stamina within 0.2 seconds.

Explain in blinding detail what is glitchy about melee....if you cannot then stop calling it a glitch or an exploit.

yea... just like the Tact. AR, Flaylock pistol, Caldari logi suit were all working "as intended"

Melee glitch needs to be explained.

it is just that you think melee does too much damage? If so then it is not a glitch....you can say you think it is OP but cannot claim it is a glitch.

Sota claimed people were using melee at 50 times per second....i fail to see how anyone doing that would not be at zero stamina within 0.2 seconds.

Explain in blinding detail what is glitchy about melee....if you cannot then stop calling it a glitch or an exploit.

Yeah grenade launchers are suspose to be CQC/med range/long range weapons

Breach yes, it's actually bad outside of CQC, and the Assault is bad in CQC. If you picked up the weapon and started using more than 1 variant for more than 2 weeks you would know this. But QQ moar.

Melee glitch needs to be explained.

it is just that you think melee does too much damage? If so then it is not a glitch....you can say you think it is OP but cannot claim it is a glitch.

Sota claimed people were using melee at 50 times per second....i fail to see how anyone doing that would not be at zero stamina within 0.2 seconds.

Explain in blinding detail what is glitchy about melee....if you cannot then stop calling it a glitch or an exploit.

The glitch resets your stamina -_-

Plus it makes you hit extremely fast. It is not a glitch. It is an exploit. Needs to be fixed.

Melee glitch needs to be explained.

it is just that you think melee does too much damage? If so then it is not a glitch....you can say you think it is OP but cannot claim it is a glitch.

Sota claimed people were using melee at 50 times per second....i fail to see how anyone doing that would not be at zero stamina within 0.2 seconds.

Explain in blinding detail what is glitchy about melee....if you cannot then stop calling it a glitch or an exploit.

confirmed a fix might find its way in 1.5 a month from now lol

lolnoobtubes

It's something they should be able to hotfix TBQH

oh jeez. now we cry even about melee? is it a troll craft thread or a real discussion?

Good because the Assault and Breach MD are working as intended.

oh jeez. now we cry even about melee? is it a troll craft thread or a real discussion?

More like 3-4 times per second, but you can still ahit about 1300 dps with Melee mods on and 2 complex cardiac regulators.

It evaporates anything instantly.

Basically it gets rid of the cooldown between melee attacks and if stacking blues you can get over 400 Damage per punch.

The Boundless Assault is ridiculous.

6.6m, 74 Damage.

With the passive skills you've got +8m.

Explosive weaponry need to do less damage the further away from the blast you are.

A TAC in it hayday could evaporate anything instantly....lavs still can and i think some turrets at close range and spot on targeted do as well. Tanks maybe as well.

This i think is more of a claim for OP status....not an exploit and/or glitch.

Rule of thumb:

Invisibility is an exploit
TAC damage back in the day was not.


That is not an exploit.

Also why are you guys on the exploint kick? Invisibility is a real exploit and CCP has done crap to fix it. TAC was claimed to be OP and CCP nerfed it. Why not call it OP? Obviously the OP claim has better traction in changing the game then calling something an exploit.

8.25, and they do 80 or so splash per shot, 640 or so not factoring resistances per clip, they are terrible in CQC and is great at being a suppression weapon especially with Infantry support. It's working as intended, the splash damage is low enough already. Aiming is being fixed and AR users get aim assist with it, so there is no excuse anymore.

A TAC in it hayday could evaporate anything instantly....lavs still can and i think some turrets at close range and spot on targeted do as well. Tanks maybe as well.

This i think is more of a claim for OP status....not an exploit and/or glitch.

Rule of thumb:

Invisibility is an exploit
TAC damage back in the day was not.


That is not an exploit.

Also why are you guys on the exploint kick? Invisibility is a real exploit and CCP has done crap to fix it. TAC was claimed to be OP and CCP nerfed it. Why not call it OP? Obviously the OP claim has better traction in changing the game then calling something an exploit.

-Provides reasons why Breach and Assault are not OP
-Refutes with "lolnoobtubes"
-Wonders why CCP left MDs the way they are

Lol

The mechanic that is Glitched and allowing people to melee approximately 5-8 times in 1 second is that Sprinting cancels the melee cooldown.

When you sprint while reloading you cancel the reload and do not restore the magazine. Sprinting will also cancel the melee cooldown, however unlike reloading cancellation through sprint you are allowed to perform the requested action. THIS IS A GLITCH. AN UNINTENDED MECHANIC.

And it's called Stamina mods, you know the green pill bottles. On top of that players most known for using this exploit have maxed their melee damage and are using myofibril stimulants with the stamina mods. Thereby allowing them to kill my 1150EHP heavy in less than a second with four hits in very rapid succession, sometimes so quickly that you only hear the thump from the melee once maybe twice.

it has been labelled by CCP as an exploit.

It doesn't sound like its a big problem until you come up against it... its ridiculous.

it has been labelled by CCP as an exploit.

It doesn't sound like its a big problem until you come up against it... its ridiculous.

All explosive weaponry should get a damage falloff the further away from the blast zone you are.

It only makes sence, and perhaps we could reward players for hitting closer to the target by giving them increased damage.

But 8.25m, 80 Damage for not even hitting your target and 104 - 106 Vs Armour. Is ridiculous.

Catch 22, Assault sucks inside 10 meters but you need to be there to get the most out of Assault MD? That goes against the purpose of the weapon. 80 damage per shot is practical, what do you want it 40 per shot so you can just stand there tanking them? You won't get anyone to stop what they are doing and move immediately if you lower the damage, that is what suppression is for.

Explosion vs armor bug has already been pointed out, 96 to armor is fine, plus Armor is getting a boost anyway. Also doing 64 per shot to shields unless you carry a flux, but that requires you to be in CQC, which the Assault sucks in.

Catch 22, Assault sucks inside 10 meters but you need to be there to get the most out of Assault MD? That goes against the purpose of the weapon. 80 damage per shot is practical, what do you want it 40 per shot so you can just stand there tanking them? You won't get anyone to stop what they are doing and move immediately if you lower the damage, that is what suppression is for.

Explosion vs armor bug has already been pointed out, 96 to armor is fine, plus Armor is getting a boost anyway. Also doing 64 per shot to shields unless you carry a flux, but that requires you to be in CQC, which the Assault sucks in.

Sorry it's been a while, MDs are op now? I don't use them so what's up?

They're not, its just people whining about guns again. You need to do quite a bit of work to kill things with MD and if everything doesn't go almost perfectly you're screwed, especially if that's your only gun. Now I can see how it would become a problem if you speced into it heavily, proficiency and damage mods, blast radius, can make the gun very powerful. But then again if you did that to any gun it would be very powerful, the reason people don't like it is because it can hit multiple targets and hit people behind corners.

It's still just a bunch of complaining, It's the same as it was back when uprising came out, except they made the hit detection actually function, the only difference is that people are using it and doing well.

My mass driver is about to become fairly obsolete anyway with all the armor tanking that's gonna be happening in 1.4, I'm either gonna have to upgrade or move on so it certainly doesn't need a nerf because EVERYONE is getting a buff.

I'm sorry man... people defending the FoTM is nothing new here. We saw it with Tact. AR and all the other stuff that got nerfed.

But feel free to get your opinion across.

Hey ******, it's not the melee itself it's the glitched mechanic being exploited.

If you don't yet know please actually read the thread, more specifically my post on the previous page.

Wouldn't CCP not deciding to do anything to Breach or Assault suggest that it is just QQ and not OP? We've been over this before, the majority of the community don't believe at least the Assault or Breach are OP, and TBH the QQ is just getting old. I have yet to hear anyone who has used all 3 variants lay out why they all are OP, nothing except OMG SPLASH TOO WIDE DAMAGE TOO MUCH without taking account each variant outside of their optimal.

Ah, yeah. You are that guy that complained about having his S handed to him in CQC by players who specialize in !melee. Dunno... invest in lube, maybe you would not be crying as much...

Ah, yeah. You are that guy that complained about having his S handed to him in CQC by players who specialize in !melee. Dunno... invest in lube, maybe you would not be crying as much...

I dont wont it to do 40 Per shot.

I just dont want it to do 80 at the very edge of the blast.

And I'm not saying that it should do more damage in CQC, I'm saying it should do more damage if the projectile lands at the feet of the enemy.

Breach is okay, why wouldn't it be?

The regular is a bit ridiculous.

Assault MD splash radius is too much for 80 Damage.

I'm willing to see how things will go once hit detection is fixed, I am.

But if the spam doesn't stop, if they're still performing how they are now, they need a splash damage falloff.

I'm not asking for a stats nerf, I'm saying that if I'm standing at the edge of the blast, I should not recieve the same amount of damage as I would recieve if I was standing where the projectile landed.

It only makes sense, its how explosives should work.

What would you suggest Lowering the splash down to? Pre 1.2 I could get the Boundless Assault to work(the only viable MD at the time), but ADV Assault was underwhelming as far as damage and splash goes, and this is before the 1.4 patch that's about to take effect in a week. And I can guarantee you if we bring the MD back to Pre 1.2 levels, there will still be people crying about the MD, that's just the nature of the weapon.

Ah, yeah. You are that guy that complained about having his S handed to him in CQC by players who specialize in !melee. Dunno... invest in lube, maybe you would not be crying as much...

I'm not suggesting lowering the splash, with a steady damage of 80, the splash is ridiculous, but say if I only recieved half or a quarter of the damage if I was standing at the edge of the blast then it'd be fine.

I'm not asking to nerf explosive weaponry, I'm asking for them to act more like explosives

I'm not suggesting lowering the splash, with a steady damage of 80, the splash is ridiculous, but say if I only recieved half or a quarter of the damage if I was standing at the edge of the blast then it'd be fine.

I'm not asking to nerf explosive weaponry, I'm asking for them to act more like explosives

Which is actually fine by me, but you do realize they would have to increase the MD damage to compensate for the fall out, or the MD would be useless as a suppression weapon?

Really? Ass handed to me? Would that be the kind of ass wooping my corp laid on your **** corp taking your district in only two attacks? You know the one where we redlined your team two matches in a row.

How about you quit talking **** and stick to the facts at hand little boy.

Bring your dad to the fight too, big man, lol. 'my corp' bigger than ur corp lmao

Bring your dad to the fight too, big man, lol. 'my corp' bigger than ur corp lmao

lolnoobtubes

Quality over Quantity everytime little buddy.

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You should tell that to your mom