The mechanic that is Glitched and allowing people to melee approximately 5-8 times in 1 second is that Sprinting cancels the melee cooldown.

When you sprint while reloading you cancel the reload and do not restore the magazine. Sprinting will also cancel the melee cooldown, however unlike reloading cancellation through sprint you are allowed to perform the requested action. THIS IS A GLITCH. AN UNINTENDED MECHANIC.

And it's called Stamina mods, you know the green pill bottles. On top of that players most known for using this exploit have maxed their melee damage and are using myofibril stimulants with the stamina mods. Thereby allowing them to kill my 1150EHP heavy in less than a second with four hits in very rapid succession, sometimes so quickly that you only hear the thump from the melee once maybe twice.

it has been labelled by CCP as an exploit.

It doesn't sound like its a big problem until you come up against it... its ridiculous.

it has been labelled by CCP as an exploit.

It doesn't sound like its a big problem until you come up against it... its ridiculous.

All explosive weaponry should get a damage falloff the further away from the blast zone you are.

It only makes sence, and perhaps we could reward players for hitting closer to the target by giving them increased damage.

But 8.25m, 80 Damage for not even hitting your target and 104 - 106 Vs Armour. Is ridiculous.

Catch 22, Assault sucks inside 10 meters but you need to be there to get the most out of Assault MD? That goes against the purpose of the weapon. 80 damage per shot is practical, what do you want it 40 per shot so you can just stand there tanking them? You won't get anyone to stop what they are doing and move immediately if you lower the damage, that is what suppression is for.

Explosion vs armor bug has already been pointed out, 96 to armor is fine, plus Armor is getting a boost anyway. Also doing 64 per shot to shields unless you carry a flux, but that requires you to be in CQC, which the Assault sucks in.

Catch 22, Assault sucks inside 10 meters but you need to be there to get the most out of Assault MD? That goes against the purpose of the weapon. 80 damage per shot is practical, what do you want it 40 per shot so you can just stand there tanking them? You won't get anyone to stop what they are doing and move immediately if you lower the damage, that is what suppression is for.

Explosion vs armor bug has already been pointed out, 96 to armor is fine, plus Armor is getting a boost anyway. Also doing 64 per shot to shields unless you carry a flux, but that requires you to be in CQC, which the Assault sucks in.

Sorry it's been a while, MDs are op now? I don't use them so what's up?

They're not, its just people whining about guns again. You need to do quite a bit of work to kill things with MD and if everything doesn't go almost perfectly you're screwed, especially if that's your only gun. Now I can see how it would become a problem if you speced into it heavily, proficiency and damage mods, blast radius, can make the gun very powerful. But then again if you did that to any gun it would be very powerful, the reason people don't like it is because it can hit multiple targets and hit people behind corners.

It's still just a bunch of complaining, It's the same as it was back when uprising came out, except they made the hit detection actually function, the only difference is that people are using it and doing well.

My mass driver is about to become fairly obsolete anyway with all the armor tanking that's gonna be happening in 1.4, I'm either gonna have to upgrade or move on so it certainly doesn't need a nerf because EVERYONE is getting a buff.

I'm sorry man... people defending the FoTM is nothing new here. We saw it with Tact. AR and all the other stuff that got nerfed.

But feel free to get your opinion across.

Hey ******, it's not the melee itself it's the glitched mechanic being exploited.

If you don't yet know please actually read the thread, more specifically my post on the previous page.

Wouldn't CCP not deciding to do anything to Breach or Assault suggest that it is just QQ and not OP? We've been over this before, the majority of the community don't believe at least the Assault or Breach are OP, and TBH the QQ is just getting old. I have yet to hear anyone who has used all 3 variants lay out why they all are OP, nothing except OMG SPLASH TOO WIDE DAMAGE TOO MUCH without taking account each variant outside of their optimal.

Ah, yeah. You are that guy that complained about having his S handed to him in CQC by players who specialize in !melee. Dunno... invest in lube, maybe you would not be crying as much...

Ah, yeah. You are that guy that complained about having his S handed to him in CQC by players who specialize in !melee. Dunno... invest in lube, maybe you would not be crying as much...

I dont wont it to do 40 Per shot.

I just dont want it to do 80 at the very edge of the blast.

And I'm not saying that it should do more damage in CQC, I'm saying it should do more damage if the projectile lands at the feet of the enemy.

Breach is okay, why wouldn't it be?

The regular is a bit ridiculous.

Assault MD splash radius is too much for 80 Damage.

I'm willing to see how things will go once hit detection is fixed, I am.

But if the spam doesn't stop, if they're still performing how they are now, they need a splash damage falloff.

I'm not asking for a stats nerf, I'm saying that if I'm standing at the edge of the blast, I should not recieve the same amount of damage as I would recieve if I was standing where the projectile landed.

It only makes sense, its how explosives should work.

What would you suggest Lowering the splash down to? Pre 1.2 I could get the Boundless Assault to work(the only viable MD at the time), but ADV Assault was underwhelming as far as damage and splash goes, and this is before the 1.4 patch that's about to take effect in a week. And I can guarantee you if we bring the MD back to Pre 1.2 levels, there will still be people crying about the MD, that's just the nature of the weapon.

Ah, yeah. You are that guy that complained about having his S handed to him in CQC by players who specialize in !melee. Dunno... invest in lube, maybe you would not be crying as much...

I'm not suggesting lowering the splash, with a steady damage of 80, the splash is ridiculous, but say if I only recieved half or a quarter of the damage if I was standing at the edge of the blast then it'd be fine.

I'm not asking to nerf explosive weaponry, I'm asking for them to act more like explosives

I'm not suggesting lowering the splash, with a steady damage of 80, the splash is ridiculous, but say if I only recieved half or a quarter of the damage if I was standing at the edge of the blast then it'd be fine.

I'm not asking to nerf explosive weaponry, I'm asking for them to act more like explosives

Which is actually fine by me, but you do realize they would have to increase the MD damage to compensate for the fall out, or the MD would be useless as a suppression weapon?

Really? Ass handed to me? Would that be the kind of ass wooping my corp laid on your **** corp taking your district in only two attacks? You know the one where we redlined your team two matches in a row.

How about you quit talking **** and stick to the facts at hand little boy.

Bring your dad to the fight too, big man, lol. 'my corp' bigger than ur corp lmao

Bring your dad to the fight too, big man, lol. 'my corp' bigger than ur corp lmao

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You should tell that to your mom