swarm launchers destroy vehicles - no effect on infantry
forge gun is better at killing vehciles and probably one of the best weapons for killing infantry.

maybe the swarm launcher could be good at it's one job.

regardless If I can finally kill some solid vehcile users with swarms i'll be happy I suppose.

all that because you dont pay attention in the battlefield and you want easy

NEXT

what tank vs av av win's hel lets make av stronger ccp do you even play this game wow

Wow vehicle drivers are a bunch of whiners!

I agree that dropships deserve a buff, a strong one too. But other than that, it really pisses me off that other vehicle users pretend they should be allowed to stomp everyone else without real risk.

If someone skills into proto swarms, he DESERVES to be a major pain for vehicle users. He can't hurt infantry, which is a major tradeoff. If AV hits you, move to cover.

Maybe vehicle users should realise that they aren't meant to be solo-pwn mobiles. They SHOULD require team backup to fight AV.

Truth.

Wow vehicle drivers are a bunch of whiners!

I agree that dropships deserve a buff, a strong one too. But other than that, it really pisses me off that other vehicle users pretend they should be allowed to stomp everyone else without real risk.

If someone skills into proto swarms, he DESERVES to be a major pain for vehicle users. He can't hurt infantry, which is a major tradeoff. If AV hits you, move to cover.

Maybe vehicle users should realise that they aren't meant to be solo-pwn mobiles. They SHOULD require team backup to fight AV.

most of you arn't factoring in the resistance tanks usually have. My tank has 30% resistance. Swarms only do 80% damage to me. (If it works like i think)

They still do a lot of damage but not a super great godly deal of damage.

yeah, we should need our whole team in order to be effective, when they only need one guy to completely shut us out of the game.

Die in a fire.

You sir,,,,,are an idiot. Drive a Tank for a day & see how ignorant you are. Hell....any CoDboitard who wants a whirl in my "Sunday Best" can hit me up 4 Squad, pass me 1.5 Mil ISK, & I'll spawn you a Madrugar w/ ANY Large Turret. I know most of the PRO AVers.....I'll call out when they appear like Pok+¬mon in the wild. You go 30-0 w/o losing the Tank under these conditions & I'll hand you 100 Mil ISK. If you survive vs trash AV.....you get your ISK Refunded. Consider it like a Carnival Game :P

It does not work like you think.....

Stop using strawman arguments! You don't need an entire team to ward off AV! Often a single sniper will do the trick.

A good tanker gives his team a major advantage, and so it's only normal that he should require backup. Otherwise everyone would simply skill into tanks and it would turn into TANKS 514.

It does not work like you think.....

Clearly your team sucks if they don't help you get rid of AV users. Funny how EON seems to contain some of the biggest whiners

LOL, nice Troll kid. You almost had me there :P

You are Irrelevant.

Oh really? It ends up happening like that, because to get to the AV, they have to go through their entire team. If AV was only short range, then there would be no problem as far as getting to the AV killed.

Explain?

Explain?

Snipers never listen. You try finding one that does.

I'm actually a bit worried about the nerf to clip size. I think I'm going to die while reloading a lot more.

Especially since firing advertises your location to the whole map. Snipers will be the natural counter enemy to swarms.

Too much to explain, especially w/o knowing which Tank & Build you run. But off hand??? 100% - 30% =/= 80%.....for starters..... Not trying to be a D**K here.....but I assume Math is not your "Strong Suit".....

They do if you work as a team. Like I said, judging form the changes it's pretty clear CCP looks as stuff like tanks as a TEAM weapon that requires back up instead of being a solo-pwn mobile. So if you get into a tank that's able to stomp tons of average foot soldiers, it's not too much to ask to get organised and have 1-2 other dedicated players as back-up.

Otherwise the game wouldn't be a team game but rather TANKS 514.

The main problem I have with all the tank whining is this:

Most seem to expect that if they get into a tank, it should require most of the enemy team to take them down...leaving the rest of their own team free to do whatever they want. That would be totally unbalanced and turn the game into an tank arms race.