It does 130% with the damage bonus against armor.

It does 130% with the damage bonus against armor.

i am a tank driver and i see no problem with the new swarm timers. The increased lock time balances out the re-lock bonus.

still waiting on Sagaris tho

i am a tank driver and i see no problem with the new swarm timers. The increased lock time balances out the re-lock bonus.

still waiting on Sagaris tho

i am a tank driver and i see no problem with the new swarm timers. The increased lock time balances out the re-lock bonus.

still waiting on Sagaris tho

i am a tank driver

i see no problem with the new swarm launchers

Not sure how an AV only weapon can be a FOTM. You guys are really digging for stuff to complain about/sensationalize at this point.

First of all, with this militia swarms stuff, you vehicle guys have to be aware that there is usually an ADV or PRO guy shooting at you as well when there's some dude firing a militia one at you and he just happens to get the last hit, right? I see so many complaints about this but more often than not in game, this is what I see. Sure you get last hit by a militia but a militia SL is not taking down your incubus, your python, or your maddy. If a militia SL destroys your non-militia or poorly fitted DS, that's your own fault. It's also your own fault if you continue to fly in a hotzone with multiple swarms on you.

I fly militia drop ships and the only thing kittening up my day are forge guns and railguns. I also have run proto SL since chrome. Swarm launchers are absolutely worthless on dropships unless that pilot is half brain dead. They take too long to lock on, the swarms are too slow until they get within kill distance and they certainly won't make it to the flight ceiling if that guy is climbing at a halfway decent rate.

What many of you also fail to realize is that after the SL fires there is an extremely long delay between you being able to switch weapons, sprint, DO ANYTHING. It's essentially a 1+ second overheat without damage/cooldown after every shot. I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure this "buff" fixes the sprinting and weapon switch issues.

A decently fit dropship will tank a multiple proto level swarms without a problem. With this iteration we will have to reload CONSTANTLY. Giving you a huge window to get away. As it stands now a proto level swarm will hold 5 rounds in a clip and what? A measly 3 or 4 in the pool if you have the ammo maxed out? How weird does that look.

Everyone gets it, drop ships are very weak right now, but you guys really need to quit with this stuff.

They do if you work as a team. Like I said, judging form the changes it's pretty clear CCP looks as stuff like tanks as a TEAM weapon that requires back up instead of being a solo-pwn mobile. So if you get into a tank that's able to stomp tons of average foot soldiers, it's not too much to ask to get organised and have 1-2 other dedicated players as back-up.

Otherwise the game wouldn't be a team game but rather TANKS 514.

The main problem I have with all the tank whining is this:

Most seem to expect that if they get into a tank, it should require most of the enemy team to take them down...leaving the rest of their own team free to do whatever they want. That would be totally unbalanced and turn the game into an tank arms race.

It does 130% with the damage bonus against armor.

Got a Vehicle shield tank guide up in the noobs forum section.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=101014&find=unread

Some armor tankers might wanna join me on the swarm resistant side.

as a dropship pilot i desperately needed that 2 seconds it took for them to fire again at me so I could actually engage the swarm launcher without worrying he would OP lock on kill me

ok so lets look at this i run proto swarm

squad vision is being disabled in 1.4 so it will be a lot harder for me to locate you

when i fire a swarm i light up like a xmas tree as six missiles fly across the map leaving trails that lead right back to me so i am totally visable to every sniper on the map

my clip is being reduced from 5 to 3

my overal ammo pool is being increased by 3 to 10 from 7

yes it is a buff but running SL is risky just make sure you have a good sniper on overwatch and use llavs as they are intended to repair you not as very hard murder taxis

and belive me if you have a llav repping you you wont have to worry as the increased damage will be negated

with swarm launcher operation on 5 and with the new bonus you will be aible to lock on faster and fire aswell faster then previously. And why nerf the clipsize? There was nothing wrong with it in the first place. I would really like to know who came up with this idea? Clipsize nerf and huge buff to the rate of fire. In my opinion the swarms shoulda had stayed how they where before. But meh now its official: the swarm launcher does more DPS then a assault forgegun.

but i want to play alone ala lone wolf and kill everyone

Why would you want to play solo in a multiplayer game.

I'm anti social depressive with random spikes of anxiety.

Playing alone is calming.

And more challenging.

lacking in human interaction.

As several people mentioned above this post, I would like to point out that you will have to re-lock your target between shots with the swarm launcher. It's not a case of lock->fire->0.2sec delay->fire. It's Lock->fire-0.2sec delay->lock->fire->0.2sec delay.

Yeah its not like theres going to be enough tanks running around to make 16 people drool uncontrolable while they all hop into a Swarmafit and rollRoflface over the keyboard while extending the double middlefinger courtesy of up yours buddy! Then blow you up like youve deserved it for the last 4 patches.

I seriously hope with this change i can actually again round a corner and not get a shot in the face from a near silent tank not showing on the minimap, witch has Unlimited ammo and rapes 950 EHP ProtoFace in a single shot.

Whenever i see a tank, i get instantly reminded of Invader Zim while he is invading his own homeplanet "PULL THOSE LEVERS, PUSH THOSE KNOBS"...

In planetside 2 when i see a tank, its ussally too bussy fighting other vehicles to bother with me, in Dust they are kinda like the Infantry Lawnmower....

Hope thats done and over :)

If a Rail Tank rounds a corner & 1-Shots your Proto Suit.....they are GOD & nobody had AV (How'd they even get to that corner from Redline in the 1st place???). If a Blaster Tank 1-Shots your Proto Suit.....you are BOTH LYING!!!!! LOL @ Missile Turret

Why would you want to play solo in a multiplayer game.