Caldari 514.


I will now only spec into racial Caldari things. They are always the safest, easiest, low risk bet.

I know I use swarms on this account and HAV's on another and I think if they wanted to do this to swarms it should have come in 1.5 with vehicle re-balancing. Proto swarms will now only have a 3 shot clip now but with a 0.3 second refire rate likely I will have all 3 swarms in the air before the first hits and having them land so close together means pilots are going to need fantastic reactions to save themselves.

Beat me to it

* Swarm Launcher base lock-on time has been increased to 1.4 from 1.2 and its fire interval has been reduced from 2 to 0.3

Are you freakin kidding me

Place your tanks in bubble wrap folks

OK CCP WOLFMAN so did you know about this seriously. All the tankers have had enough so have the DS pilots and now this happens before you do any balancing come on, get a grip on internal comms.

How the hell has this happened.

DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO GO THROUGH FFS

Caldari 514.


I will now only spec into racial Caldari things. They are always the safest, easiest, low risk bet.


I seriously don't know how they can go on and actually acknowledge that vehicles and AV need to be reworked 1.5..... THEN they buff the easiest AV weapon of all in 1.4!?

I need to know who's idea that was.

someone forgot about the huge caldari logi nerf

Cal logi nerf wasn't that bad.

This SL buff brings on a whole new era of wtf.


Every Tanker shall now redline snipe and the forums will turn to **** as per bloody usual.

Wait for the 1.5 Vehicle patch and stop complaining when they want test data.

lol @redline snipe

1 guy can send 3 invisible proto volleys with dmg mods on the way which will hit in less than 1 sec. You dead, I promise.

Armor is dead, 3seconds for the armor repper to kick in the 1st pulse

You need all your harders on when they hit and the rep has to be timed just right but with 3k per volley and an instant 9k damage in a second or so will overwhelm any tank defences

They also have more ammo to **** us with

Mmm, delicious tears.

Murder taxis and tankers beware, the new king of the battlefield is the swarm launcher. Three volleys airborne in less than 4 seconds? Me likey.

Looks like you guys will have to get boots on the ground to do your killing now.

Thank god we haven't gone into Official Release and are still beta testing, right?

yet still play this game on a regular basis.

You do realize FGs only got one more round, right? The IAFG starts with 16 rounds. I have ammo level 4 right now with 19 rounds. After 1.4 I'll have 20 rounds. It's really not that much considering most FGers already have a Logi dropping hives. They did it because one of the skill levels did absolutely nothing. 5 levels for 4 rounds doesn't make sense. 5 for 5 does.

You do realize FGs only got one more round, right? The IAFG starts with 16 rounds. I have ammo level 4 right now with 19 rounds. After 1.4 I'll have 20 rounds. It's really not that much considering most FGers already have a Logi dropping hives. They did it because one of the skill levels did absolutely nothing. 5 levels for 4 rounds doesn't make sense. 5 for 5 does.

I think we have vastly different ideas of what "regular basis" means

Thank god CCP created a server designated solely for the purpose of testing.

Oh wait, there isn't one.

So i guess you can either get over being a guinea pig, or continue to complaining endlessly on the forums yet still play this game on a regular basis.

At least we are in agreement that the only thing you do is complain endlessly on the forums.

Time well spent.

I'm barely even around these days, someone clearly has a hard on for me

I'm sure you posting everyday for the past week is a testament to that.

I'm becoming more and more convinced every day that 1.5 will be another huge nerf to vehicles.

If you had any idea how often I used to be around, it would

Ye be trollin' though, get back on topic foo.

good , i can kill dropships again

If i had any idea how often you used to post threads that are solely complaints, i would have still made these posts. As would you have. So that means your statement was moot point, but you knew that already.

And correct you are on being off topic, just like you were. Though i won't be a hypocrite and throw out another useless off topic post, thats telling someone to get back on topic.




More then likely, that is their intention. Swarm missiles tracking DS are something they need to look into, since its incredibly easy to outrun the swarms currently.

OMG, I'm actually glad for a change that I shield tank. Swarms are going to be gods, and tankers are to suffer for it. Test data my ass. Lets buff AV, not like tanks have it bad enough. Next they are going to increase the damage on forge guns and AV nades, while give us less PG. foolish

1.5 will introduce capacitors, unmolested it will allow vehicles to be far greater than they are currently.

It will also introduce ewar, allowing tackling and draining of capacitors in their entirety from great range with unerring reliability.

Or something like that.

If i had any idea how often you used to post threads that are solely complaints, i would have still made these posts. As would you have. So that means your statement was moot point, but you knew that already.

And correct you are on being off topic, just like you were. Though i won't be a hypocrite and throw out another useless off topic post, thats telling someone to get back on topic.




More then likely, that is their intention. Swarm missiles tracking DS are something they need to look into, since its incredibly easy to outrun the swarms currently.

just putting it out there - swarms now only have 3 shots per clip before reload :p

CCP Rejavik
CCP Shanghia

Same company different studios, one has near perfected the player feedback process, the other is still rolling on the floor after it fell over its first baby step.

Yeah and we are the ones to suffer for this so called test data. I'm lucky to break even running a tank, and buffing AV will complicate that. Leave your bullshit at home, you don't play with the rest of us buddy.

5 high slots

lol 3dmg mods proto swarms says otherwise

OMG, I'm actually glad for a change that I shield tank. Swarms are going to be gods, and tankers are to suffer for it. Test data my ass. Lets buff AV, not like tanks have it bad enough. Next they are going to increase the damage on forge guns and AV nades, while give us less PG. foolish

Gibberish .

It's cool and all, you know infantry buffs. But us tankers have been on the back burner for far too long. We are basically getting nerfed even more then we are. It's ok, the nice long break is somewhat in process, down to one game a night if I'm lucky.

CCP you are burning me out. All I can do is bend over and take it in the ass.

Armor tanking is dead! All hail shield tanks!

Seriously though...

A full skilled proto swarm:

Lock on time: 1.12
Refire time: .3
Time between shots: 1.42 seconds (from 3.2 seconds pre-1.4)

Damage: 330x6 times 1.15 equals 2277 per volley.
One 10% damage mod: 2504 per volley.
One damage mod against an armor tank: 3256 damage per volley.
Time/Damage of a full clip: 4.26 seconds for 9768 damage.
Damage reduction with max skills and a 15% module: 23.5% - Full clip deals 7909
Average armor tank health: 6700 armor with 1000 shields.

Factor in vehicle speed, swarms performing 360 turning speed on a dime, homing, and invisibility if they are past rendering range: Armor is dead, all hail shields!

Armor dropships will be dead before they can even react and as swarms are homing they will now be worse than forge guns as there is no way to avoid them other than an afterburner.
Armor tanks will be unable to react in time and will be alpha killed, armor reps will be useless as they take 2-3 seconds to start once activated.

*Swarm Launcher base lock-on time has been increased to 1.4 from 1.2 and its fire interval has been reduced from 2 to 0.3

This is offset by the skill change

*The Swarm Launcher Operation skill bonus has been changed from increasing the clip size to reducing the lock-on time by 5%

So in fact it locks on quicker and also fires alot faster

* The Forge Gun, Mass Driver, Swarm Launcher, and Plasma Cannon ammo skills now provide 1 extra unit of ammo for each level of the skill (for a maximum of 5) instead of a % bonus per level

They also have more ammo to **** us with


So if they still have missiles which are invisible and go around corners while being able to keep lock on when not locking at target and locking on through cover all vehicles are super ******

This is 3 buffs to the swarms launcher which wasnt needed


I better have a proto tank in 1.5 because for the next month swarms will ******* hurt alot more and alot faster than now

I will be on that ******* hill now


EDIT

* All handheld weapon reload skills now have a cost multiplier of x3 (down from x6) and their skill book ISK price reduced to 203,000 from 774,000

So you can say 4 buffs now, i just realised it but they can reload faster so faster lock on and firing with faster reload because its cheaper to get the skill now so more swarms everyfuckingwhere

Super crutch - **** me and i thought vehicles couldnt get any worse off but it seems they can just buff AV

1 proto swarm user will be able to kill that tank before he knows what happens because lol 3 volleys in the air at the same time is so easy

Dropships dont bother fellas you ******

We are getting overnerfed

tanker crying about crutches when the tank is the biggest crutch in the game.