Today I was forge gunning on a high point; the red team had called in multiple tanks that were tearing through our infantry and infrastructure. I began firing on a blaster tank that would pause every now and then to shoot at me? The tanker got lucky when a proto sniper killed me before I could fire the killing shot.

Sniping forge gunners on high points is a viable counter tactic.

PS: I spawned in on the ground and unloaded my entire clip on the tank mentioned above. I was a bit screwed at this point because I was in a fat suit with no cover and had to reload. But then it happened, in an act of pure greed the tanker decided to rush at me, who was obviously in a AV fit. I immediately canceled my reload and tossed 2 AV grenades when the tanker entered throwing distance range. Lowratehitman was right.

For all of you complaining about Forge Guns

- Snipe them, you can't really hide on top of a tower in the open.
- Avoid them, when they are on a tower, they are not capturing objectives.
- Heavily Shielded/Armored dropships, If it has enough HP, it can take a few forge gun shots to destroy.
- Don't let them get on the tower in the first place, if you see an enemy dropship, work with your squad to take it out, IT'S NOT THAT HARD!!!!!

It seems as though there are people complaining about every explosive weapon in the game, remember its not the guns that are OP, it's YOU who doesn't know how to deal with them.

so tell me again, how do you deal with an invisable forge gunner in a high place when your not quite sure where he is or how he got there?

Yep, i know right?

I'll compile some of the data I've read about Forge Guns.

-Their payload travel an unlimited range. They can hit anyone, from anywhere on the map so long as they are on a tower.

-They don't even render in the distance at all, even for someone using a sniper rifle.

-They OHK all dropships regardless of fitting, and can kill a 7k ehp tank with 50% resistances in a single Forge Gun clip.

-Sniper Rifles aren't a counter to tower Forge Sniping, because they can't 1 shot the Heavy.

-Dropships aren't a counter to tower Forge Sniping, because the Forge gunner has 360 degree vision, as well as foresight into future to determine the DS's location.

-It takes less then 6 seconds to pop a tank with the Breach Forge Gun.

-As long as there's a nanohive present, the gun is unstoppable.

I can totally see why people think the Forge Gun is OP ....

(i paraphrased on point 5 of course)

Please go back and read post #90

Unless you're running solo. Then abandon all hope and wait for 2.0.

they dont render 9 times out of 10

out ranging a forge gun is useless when it sees you but you cant see it.

even with spotters to help find the guy in the first place its near impossable.

for that plan to work you have to already know exactly where he is, wich isnt the problem. the problem is he DOESNT RENDER so if he has half a brain YULL NEVER FIND HIM with infantry, with tanks, with dropships.

good friggen luck

When uprising came out you all pointed and laughed at the heavies and said: "Get Gud Scrubs!"

We got good. Hurts, doesn't it?

Now I return to you. "get good you whiny scrubs."

If you target directly under the spotted chevron your shots can hit the target. With the Large Rail structure turrets I've shot at red-dots fighting blue-dots before.

Rendering is frustrating and we shouldn't need this kind of complication. Hopefully they'll be able to fix this sooner rather than later.

Not impossible, but give that guy credit especially if he was using an assault FG! Those autofire when fully charged just like the turrets. You cannot ADS with a FG. Trust me it takes a hell of a lot of skill to hit a moving target with an assault FG at any range!

Takes one sniper to ruin the Roof top Forge guns fun. Don't headshots have a 5x multiplier? How hard is it to hit a heavies head? Not hard cause I've been doing it all day.

here are some steps to counter them.

for Vehicles:

Step 1- locate the forge sniper.
Step 2- get to some point of the map where he cant get you. (impossible i know)
Step 3- make sure your the only one in that area.
Step 4- recall your vehicle.
Step 5- leave the game and go to a game that's actually playable.


for Infantry:

Step 1- locate the forge sniper
Step 2- have the squad leader place a defend order on one of the people in your squad.
Step 3- get an orbital.
Step 4- use the orbital on the cowards at the top of the buildings. (this will also destroy all equipment on the buildings.)

OR

Step 1- leave the game

that should help you guys.

For those bitching up a storm about rendering distance let's not forget it works both ways.

If you can't see me through your sniper scope I sure as **** can't see you either.

For those bitching up a storm about rendering distance let's not forget it works both ways.

If you can't see me through your sniper scope I sure as **** can't see you either.

Rail tankers never (hardly) ever did go into battle. A large majority of people who redline rail tanked a year ago are gone or nowhere near as active but the red line cowardice never did go away.

Although it was a little bit harder back then since the maps required you to move a little bit out of your safety area to get a view of the map.

I do agree that tanks have been nerfed too much but people are always going to hide in the redline and be pansys until there is a consequence for it.


Further more, A Railgun tanks shouldn't charge directly within battle, that's pretty stupid in my opinion. They should keep a distance (however redlining is over the top). The fighting style of the shield tank is more tactical than the armor tank and people fail to realise that.

You can't use a Caldari shield tank as a brawler all out combat tank because they weren't built for that.
The Caldari prefer to take a tactical approach and attack from range. (Take note of the Rail Turret and Missile turret)

Believe it or not, Caldari Missile launcher tanks can easily kill a Gallente armor tank as long as people actually think about engagements and not charge straight into a hornets nest.

cant sniper them, they dont render.
cant avoid them, they DONT RENDER

dropships get 3 seconds between getting smack by forge shot one, to GTFO and not get hit by forge shot 2

sure its possable, but since THEY DONT RENDER you have no idea where they are (outside experiance and just plain guessing) so avoiding them or doing evasive manuvers is near impossable when you cant see what your avoiding (the shots are invisable)

not letting them get on the tower isnt the easyest thing in the world since they usually get there ASAP and its not always possable to prevent it.


so tell me again, how do you deal with an invisable forge gunner in a high place when your not quite sure where he is or how he got there?