Are you saying it kills the other uplink, or merely supresses it?

If weaker uplinks were suppressed and can't be used (until the stronger ones were used up), that'd seem an interesting fix. Though still show the weaker ones on the map (perhaps with alpha, to show they aren't currently working at full strength)

Just give hostile forces the ability to earn WP by destroying uplinks, then combine that with the upcoming bug fix for signal profile, and the fix for glitching links into solid objects. Throw in a dash of being able to hack enemy equipment and mix well with a use of Flux nades, server liberally.

change the uplink from a tiny little box which is hard to see and kill to something a bit more obvious like a pillar/beacon of some sort. most of the spam isn't for usage purposes anyway but to confuse the enemy where they are and to make it impossible to kill them all before someone spawns in on another and drops more. if they were more obvious and can't be placed in tiny gaps etc then this allows enemy to kill them easier(when no one is about to stop them doing it that is) if they are not placed strategicaly

Pillar? Makes them easier to snipe I suppose. I destroying them grants WPs then snipers now have a new target.
Good scouts would have an outrageously simple time taking these out if they were even more obvious(UI-wise) and that's not good as I, a scout, enjoy the mental challenge of weaving through the enemy undetected in search of placed equipment, destroying them, and making it out alive.

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I don't have a viewpoint on the matter but just wanted to say that what you enjoy and what's good for the game are two separate things.

Uplinks as we all know are a valuable asset to a team, but in all honesty it gets a bit ridiculous when there are 20 uplinks spammed everywhere.

I advocate a system that prohibits uplink stacking within a given area by means of signal interference.

The tier and or type of uplink would determine its signal radius, varying from a large signal radius (80-70m) to small signal radius (40-30m) . The numbers are up for change and were thrown in there just as an example.

The first uplink placed within an area would get first priority while if a second person wanted to lay down an uplink there would be an indicator when the uplink is readied if it is not within signal interference range.


Thank you for your time.

1) all equipment, not just uplinks.
2) +1 for the entire comment.

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Suggestions like this make me realize that this community just doesn't get it. Uplink and nanohive spam is a legit strategy, especially when employed by players with L5 skills. Stop trying to water this game down and nerf EVERYTHING.

The only smart idea that I've seen in this convo is the suggestion about granting WP for destroying uplinks. That's actually quite a brilliant idea.

Agreed.

Seeing 8-10 drop uplinks clustered together on a map is the most frustrating thing ever, expecially because of where they tend to get placed by tryhards(in areas with only specific access I.E. dropships).

Balance does not mean countering rock with rock. Right now the only counter is drop uplink spam on your team. And even that's hardly a counter.

What about the idea of Nanohives and Uplinks not persisting through death? Or that if you change suits at a supply depot to a suit without a valid uplink they dissapear?

Just an FYI, I believe people do it because of the decent amount of WP earned through uplink spam. Take any Logi suit and throw on 3 different types of uplinks (Requires 2 skill points invested). Militia Uplink, Stable Uplink and Standard Uplink. Drop your 3 down and profit... again, in skirmish or OMS you can even switch to a regular suit after the fact.

If they did not persist after death the uplink would be a more defensive equipment and would require more tactics when holding positions or pushing forward instead of drop, charge, repeat.

Uplinks establish a point of entry and assault in battle, not unlike a beachhead. The more uplinks deployed, the stronger and more resilient the beachhead. If you don't like that your enemy has its talons in your territory then destroy the uplinks. Will it take you time and precious ammo to clear out multiple uplinks? Yes, and that's the point! Of course I'm making it difficult for you, it's my job as a logi. You people who constantly rail about this game's features and who want to remove every creative element of gameplay that makes Dust unique irritate me to no end.

If you don't like my uplink spamming, do something about it that doesn't involve a developer--kill me and my hives.

Only if every uplink can be used by everyone on the team (which is how it should be anyway).

The only thing that needs to be changed about uplinks is how they show up on the spawn screen. Currently the spawn circle and timers are too large and the text blends together/clutters up the map - shrinking them would make things a lot more clear. Additionally, color code uplinks that you and your squad drop - make them green. That way you can spawn in on your squad's links to earn WP.

Limiting what equipment you can use based on the actions/equipment used of other players is a slippery slope. As it stands the only limit of this kind is the vehicle limit and the reason for that is intuitive. With vehicles, at the very least you aren't able to call one in if the quota is reached, but with limits on equipment/weapons you'd be stuck in that you'd find out your stuff is useless only after you had equipped it, meaning lost ISK when you died.

My gripe isn't the enemy spamming but my own team spamming.
A teammate needed reps and I was on the spawn screen. I asked him where he was and when he told me I still couldn't find the right location to spawn as all I could see was blue pulses. I literally couldn't see were a single teammate was on the entire map!
There are many ways to utilize an uplink;

Offensive = 3-4 at the target area to ensure the enemy stays pressured.
Defensive = 1-2 on the way to the target area to ensure you have a fall back when the offensive uplinks are down. This keeps you from being redlined.
Tactical = 2-8 at hard-to-reach vantage points to give your teams a way to out maneuver the enemy. This allows you to more easily flank the enemy and disperse there attacking forces.

It annoys me when 100% of the uplinks are offensive as it becomes far to easy to be flanked. If the enemy does it then I just run in with fluxes and destroy all of them. Since they have no defensive uplinks, they are quickly forced off the target area and eventually redlined.

I plan to get proto uplinks that allow me to place 3 at once. This will allow me to set up an uplink for all 3 tactics mentioned above.

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The only thing that needs to be changed about uplinks is how they show up on the spawn screen. Currently the spawn circle and timers are too large and the text blends together/clutters up the map - shrinking them would make things a lot more clear. Additionally, color code uplinks that you and your squad drop - make them green. That way you can spawn in on your squad's links to earn WP.

Limiting what equipment you can use based on the actions/equipment used of other players is a slippery slope. As it stands the only limit of this kind is the vehicle limit and the reason for that is intuitive. With vehicles, at the very least you aren't able to call one in if the quota is reached, but with limits on equipment/weapons you'd be stuck in that you'd find out your stuff is useless only after you had equipped it, meaning lost ISK when you died.

I've got a very simple fix for blue team uplink spam, map zoom.


We've got now, but the max zoom is nearly the same as the default which makes it frustratingly useless.

Instead let us zoom way in and we can pick precisely the uplink we want to spawn on. Oh, and display the elevation so we know which one is on the tower top and which one is right next to it on the ground.



Don't like red team uplink spam? Go destroy them.

just had a thought for a new piece of equipment: uplink jammer
large AOE that prevents uplink spawns until destroyed or times out (which ever is more fun)
could be countered by M-CRUs since they don't rely on wormhole tech to function.
WP granted whenever tears are shed by WP whoreing logis/afkers.

ISK is always lost when you die? That's how this game works?

Yeah all of my thoughts are in the mindset that uplinks are for the whole team.

Which I feel strongly that they will change that back to what it used to be.

I honestly hope they don't.
Don't get me wrong, I get the value (more incentive to squad up) but I always place my uplinks with the whole team in mind.
If we are redlined then I like to be able to single-handedly bring my entire team back into the fight (which I have done on occasion). Not for the WP but for the good of the team. (Until I cap I really don't care about WPs)

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Read more carefully.
I said I hope they bring it back to team uplinks

Read more carefully.
I said I hope they bring it back to team uplinks

change the uplink from a tiny little box which is hard to see and kill to something a bit more obvious like a pillar/beacon of some sort. most of the spam isn't for usage purposes anyway but to confuse the enemy where they are and to make it impossible to kill them all before someone spawns in on another and drops more. if they were more obvious and can't be placed in tiny gaps etc then this allows enemy to kill them easier(when no one is about to stop them doing it that is) if they are not placed strategically

I feel the best solution to the uplink spam is to make it so only 1 uplink can be active per person, instead of the 8/merc as it is now. You can stack 4 different proto uplinks and all of them will be active. Even if only half of the team can do this at the start, that's 64 uplinks you have to deal with and it game breaking OP.

Uplinks win battles. Most times its a matter of whoever gets the most uplinks down the fastest who win.

I don't think the signal radius changes will help. Mostly because if one of the 10 uplinks that are in close radius get destroyed, you still have 9 more to get rid of before the spawns stop. Putting a cap on the total number that can be deployed will keep uplinks to a manageable level.

I do agree with the uplink jammer idea though. Would be nice.

I feel the best solution to the uplink spam is to make it so only 1 uplink can be active per person, instead of the 8/merc as it is now. You can stack 4 different proto uplinks and all of them will be active. Even if only half of the team can do this at the start, that's 64 uplinks you have to deal with and it game breaking OP.

Uplinks win battles. Most times its a matter of whoever gets the most uplinks down the fastest who win.

I don't think the signal radius changes will help. Mostly because if one of the 10 uplinks that are in close radius get destroyed, you still have 9 more to get rid of before the spawns stop. Putting a cap on the total number that can be deployed will keep uplinks to a manageable level.

I do agree with the uplink jammer idea though. Would be nice.

1 active per person? Not a logi, are you? What you're suggesting would destroy a class, an entire way of playing this game. Thanks to suit changes, I am able to aid my team by laying down 13 proto uplinks in a battle at one time. Why would you choose a system that arbitrarily limits a way of playing the game and replaces it with a restrictive 1 merc, 1 uplink policy? You're telling me that you'd rather have the game allow 16 players of whatever skill level to deploy uplinks of variable effectiveness over allowing experts like me to truly shine and help my team with multiple uplinks? You're killin' me, Smalls...