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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:30:00 -
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Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1104
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:32:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights.
It is but its not, it should be doing 10% more damage to shields and 15% less damage to armor, there are some weird bugs with how splash damage is registered and there is no damage difference from the center of the explosion and the edge. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
276
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:36:00 -
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Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh... |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1105
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:45:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh...
Laser rifle was fine except the Viziam, and when CCP nerfed it they just nerfed everything. The HMG was fine also but the range was just way to long, but again they went to far, the Forge Gun is fine except when the user is camping on a building and is impossible to see or kill, the MD what I said a post above, Scrambler rifle is fine and nobody complains about it. I personally want the range of the AR decreased and for it to be what it should be, a high DPS low range weapon similar to how a blaster turret operates vs a rail gun. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
276
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:50:00 -
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That's my point. Instead of balancing a weapon, all the tears cause massive nerfs. Might as well just run around dual wielding Scrambler Pistols, (which is a good time btw). |
KingBlade82
The Phoenix Federation
175
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:53:00 -
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yes if its not an AR (aiming weapon where every bullet counts it should be harder to use)
the MD outclasses the shotgun it needs a nerf and CCP will nerf it
EDIT: im also jumping on the forge gun hater bandwagon since it can one shot anything in its path even militia one
protos going down by one forge gun blast is ridiculous |
8213
Grade No.2
149
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Posted - 2013.08.18 00:58:00 -
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No, its hated because it takes no aim and you get 6 shots at a time |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
276
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:11:00 -
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8213 wrote:No, its hated because it takes no aim and you get 6 shots at a time Neither do grenades. Just cook and lob in the general direction of red dots. You get 3 of those and they do quadruple the damage and almost double the blast radius. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2777
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:18:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:8213 wrote:No, its hated because it takes no aim and you get 6 shots at a time Neither do grenades. Just cook and lob in the general direction of red dots. You get 3 of those and they do quadruple the damage and almost double the blast radius. At the cost of having an indicator showing where your round is moving and more than half the player base being completely ignorant of what "cooking a grenade" means. |
Nicholas Silverton
Granite Mercenary Division
25
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:21:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh... The day the scrambler rifle gets nerfed is the day I leave. -a dedicated scrambler user
On another note, the ar will probably never get nerfed due to the ar player base being the majority and every other guns player base combined being the minority. |
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HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
179
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:31:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh... Lol. Ar's aren't win buttons(1 hit kills) . Ar players just want fights without clown cars and clown spam.
Which is fine, unless you are a clown that literally cant kill people in this game with a rifle.
Some people want nuetral territory, some people just want the upper hand.
I myself want nuetral territory. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
279
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:45:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh... Lol. Ar's aren't win buttons(1 hit kills) . Ar players just want fights without clown cars and clown spam. Which is fine, unless you are a clown that literally cant kill people in this game with a rifle. Some people want nuetral territory, some people just want the upper hand. I myself want nuetral territory. I never said they were. Only cooked grenades are win buttons. If you think the MD is a "win button", then you must be terrible with the AR. |
killian178
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
3
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:00:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights. It is but its not, it should be doing 10% more damage to shields and 15% less damage to armor, there are some weird bugs with how splash damage is registered and there is no damage difference from the center of the explosion and the edge. It's actually the opposite, its more affective against armor than shields |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1105
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:01:00 -
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killian178 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights. It is but its not, it should be doing 10% more damage to shields and 15% less damage to armor, there are some weird bugs with how splash damage is registered and there is no damage difference from the center of the explosion and the edge. It's actually the opposite, its more affective against armor than shields
Not what I meant, the gun does 70/135, it is supposed to do 80/120. Thus 10% more to shields and 15% less to armor. |
HYENAKILLER X
TEAM SHINOBI
180
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:02:00 -
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All I do is kill son. |
killian178
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
3
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:10:00 -
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Besides, if you spec into the MD, or anything for that matter, it should be affective at killing. I think some of the protos, and long standing "middle ground" players are getting butt-sore about the fact that some people are actually getting good with the mass driver. Imagine that, a gun that's not an AR getting kills? Some things are slightly OP, ( forge guns), but its not always there power that renders them too effective, ie range, velocity. The MD is a really good gun, but can be outmatched easily dependant on the situation, as it should be, learn to adapt people, evolve, do something other than what's not working for you. |
killian178
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
3
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:15:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:killian178 wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights. It is but its not, it should be doing 10% more damage to shields and 15% less damage to armor, there are some weird bugs with how splash damage is registered and there is no damage difference from the center of the explosion and the edge. It's actually the opposite, its more affective against armor than shields Not what I meant, the gun does 70/135, it is supposed to do 80/120. Thus 10% more to shields and 15% less to armor. Ahhh, then I retract my first statement then, though it should be that way though |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
128
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:17:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh... It's already being nerfed so only Assault Amarrians can use it. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
128
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:20:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:yes if its not an AR (aiming weapon where every bullet counts it should be harder to use)
the MD outclasses the shotgun it needs a nerf and CCP will nerf it
EDIT: im also jumping on the forge gun hater bandwagon since it can one shot anything in its path even militia one
protos going down by one forge gun blast is ridiculous No... shotgun needs a buff... shotgun should be a 1-2 hit KO. Now a 3-4 hit. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
49
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:21:00 -
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This isn't an RPG, "working as intended" does not mean "delivers DPS on press of a button". |
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Doc Noah
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
469
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:22:00 -
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Not much adapting needed to deal with bunny hopping lolMD spam everywhere, just simply close the ps3 and play a different game. |
Faquira Bleuetta
Pure Innocence. EoN.
68
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:28:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh...
but AR user want it that way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EylafK1IwHE .....snif
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Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
321
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:45:00 -
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KingBlade82 wrote:yes if its not an AR (aiming weapon where every bullet counts it should be harder to use)
the MD outclasses the shotgun it needs a nerf and CCP will nerf it
EDIT: im also jumping on the forge gun hater bandwagon since it can one shot anything in its path even militia one
protos going down by one forge gun blast is ridiculous
The Assault and Breach MD outclasses the shotgun how? |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz
321
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:48:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Not much adapting needed to deal with bunny hopping lolMD spam everywhere, just simply close the ps3 and play a different game.
If youre bunny hopping instead of running to cover, flanking, or getting in close when facing an MD user, you should be dying. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
463
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:52:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights.
Stats are important but don't fully reflect how useful a gun is especially with vital information missing from each weapon's attributes. Mass drivers have high splash this is the reason they are so good and they hit for very high splash damage.
Boom boom boom your dead wasn't even time for me to turn around |
Nicholas Silverton
Granite Mercenary Division
26
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:56:00 -
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Eris Ernaga wrote:Bright Cloud wrote:Im just curious cause the MD itself has less DPS then a AR or HMG. The main factor i believe is that the weapon actually works and avoids the spongy hit detection that regular weapons have. Just question yourself how many times you died cause some 1 was strafing or bunny hopping and no bullet would register on him. Thats where the MD comes in and neglects the strafing and bunny hopping from the so called "proto pub stompers". Im quite sure that most complainers are either bunny hopping or strafing in gunfights. Stats are important but don't fully reflect how useful a gun is especially with vital information missing from each weapon's attributes. Mass drivers have high splash this is the reason they are so good and they hit for very high splash damage. Boom boom boom your dead wasn't even time for me to turn around Not to mention that even if you are facing them, your screen is covered in particle effects and your crosshair is being thrown around
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Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
356
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:45:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Pretty much. The AR player base has spoken. Anything that is effective at killing that isn't an AR will be nerfed. See the Lazer Rifle and HMG for example. Then it was the Flaylock (which we all agreed on), next is the MD, followed by the Forge Gun, then the witch hunt will move on to the Scrambler Rifle. Sigh... Lol. Ar's aren't win buttons(1 hit kills) . Ar players just want fights without clown cars and clown spam. Which is fine, unless you are a clown that literally cant kill people in this game with a rifle. Some people want nuetral territory, some people just want the upper hand. I myself want nuetral territory. If you want a fair game go play sports. War games are not sport. Its not supposed to be fair its supposed to be as unfair as possible. Why do you damn people insist on trying to make a war game fair? It will never happen. There will always be that handful of powerful easy weapons like grenade launchers and rpgs. Again if you want fair play then go join a football team or something. If you get killed by a tank to bad. If you get ran over to bad. That is how it is in war. This game is about war so what the hell did you think was going to happen? Oh I know you thought it was going to be the 1vs1 crap you see in those crappy tv shows. Well you thought wrong. Welcome to Dust 514 the most merciless and unfair war game to date. Besides the stupid nerf crap ccp keeps doing. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
728
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:50:00 -
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I don't think people care about the dps on it vs a AR... |
Daalzebul Del'Armgo
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
61
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Posted - 2013.08.18 04:28:00 -
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Sigh, besides decaying damage to the outer most edge if splash damage. We just need dropsuit resistance modules vs damage types. Problem solved. Drops Mic and walks away. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1763
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Posted - 2013.08.18 04:55:00 -
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Justin Tymes wrote:KingBlade82 wrote:yes if its not an AR (aiming weapon where every bullet counts it should be harder to use)
the MD outclasses the shotgun it needs a nerf and CCP will nerf it
EDIT: im also jumping on the forge gun hater bandwagon since it can one shot anything in its path even militia one
protos going down by one forge gun blast is ridiculous The Assault and Breach MD outclasses the shotgun how?
Higher clip size, better hit detection, longer range, dont actually need to be accurate with it since you can just spam at the ground
Need I go on?
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