1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

Get in a militia suit and see what a militia locus grenade will do to you. They kill you instantly.

Now get in a proto suit and see what a core locus grenade will do to you. It kills you almost instantly. Grenades are balanced exactly how they should be, Proto grenades are designed to take out proto suits, with the added shields and speed that proto suits can apply. When you are against equipment similar to your own, fire fights aren't supposed to take longer than they do at militia level.

Militia grenades shouldn't instantly kill a militia suit, and proto grenades shouldn't instantly kill a proto suit.

1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.

1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

Rarely do I die by grenade, typically they are not primed and they are easy to evade.

1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

Aren't these grenades from Replication?

You know... the build where Heavies could tank close to 2000 armor...
had Scout suits with enough ehp to rival the proto Caldari suits we have now...
And Assault suits that would kill you with a glance?

:P




Oh, and everything had 2x the base speed too.

Replication
Uprising > replication > E3 > Precursor > Codex > Chromosome >Uprising (Or something like that...)

The fuse could be made longer, this would mean more time to get away from uncooked grenades. It would also reward grenade cooking skills. This would not be a nerf nor a buff but would effectively solve the grenade spam problem.

That is a nice solution to the OP's problem. Currently it is a 6 sec fuse, so taking it up to 8 sec would be pretty reasonable for a first move towards balancing the grenade more. Alot can happen in 2 sec. after all.

I'm an expert at cooking my core locus grenades and air bursting them over peoples heads. Right now I'd actually say they are a bit overpowered, but only in pub matches. Proto vs proto with grenades seems fine to me. But core locus vs anything non proto is almost always an instant kill provided you can land the grenade within 3 meters.

I've gotten good enough that I can hit people out to about 50 meters accurately with my grenades while having them well cooked. So inside that range you better be moving around behind your cover or I'll blow you up.

And before you nerf them, CCP should fix the issue where grenades that are laying on the ground don't deal damage to people running over the top of them about half the time. That's enough of a downside by itself right now. I literally have to airburst every grenade I throw to get consistent damage.

Grenades are not OP and I don't feel like they are spammed to the point that I'm always being killed by them. In fact, most games end without me having died a single death by grenade (and I play frontline assault). That said, I've always felt that Nanohives should not replenish grenades. I hate what they did to try and reduce the amount of grenade spam in Uprising, making grenades chew through Nanohives at such a high rate. Here is why:

I spawn, I play for awhile, get a handful of kills and have long since used my 3 grenades, which is fine, because they are not my primary killing tool and it doesn't concern me at all. I'm also running pretty low on ammo and I put down a Nanohive to resupply. Oh, but that's right, I can't even resupply my ammo fully because the 3 grenades that the Nanohive automatically replenishes just ate through all of the nanite clusters in 3 seconds. In this situation, I'm not even trying to spam grenades, I just want more bullets. Too bad the Nanohive doesn't know that

Seriously, it would be much better if they just removed the ability for Nanohives to resupply grenades. Then you wouldn't get totally skewed resupply cycles, there would be less spam and all of us would have to listen to Argon Gas whine about one less thing.

As someone else in this thread said, it takes a lot of SP to unlock Level 5 grenades and even more to be able to fit them on a suit without having to make unreasonable sacrifices. Yes, they should be powerful and their level of power is consistent with the prerequisites required to use them. This does not mean they are inherently OP, it just means something should be done to cut down the spamming of them. I don't think it makes sense to weaken them or reduce the initial capacity because they are being spammed. Rather, they simply should not be resupplied by Nanohives.

They work, so therefore they are overpowered. SIgh................

You said it yourself, everyone has access to them, so how does that give anyone an unfair advantage?