What a lav or 2 can do to an entire team of rifles is dispicable, cheap and cowardly as well as op.

Nothing comes close to the lav in this game.

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Um...ok. This is really weird. I guess I must have missed something. Was the OP actually trolling?
I guess I wouldn't have posted in this thread if there was a dislike button.

You said it yourself, everyone has access to them, so how does that give anyone an unfair advantage?

That was directed towards

Since people on here don't know what reason is if it crawled if their ass and died.

I'm still so confused.
Are you saying "Yes, he tried to prove his argument by proving himself wrong"?

While I'm here, OP, do you realize how absolutely devastating the options to locus grenades are? If anything the Locus variety is the weakest/less impacting of the three. A couple Wyrikomis AVs tear up a vehicle worth millions of ISK. One standard flux and an entire squad of Caldari, Minmatar, or Amarr suits are at half HP or less, not to mention losing all their base equipment. You're calling out imbalance because you might get a few kills for free?

grenades are too good, they aren't situational, they are the first, in between and last thing they do in fire fights. It's a damn shame.

They do, and they should. Grenades are working as intended.




I don't know what you're doing but kills do not take time in this game. Forge guns can kill you instantly. ARs can kill you in 2-3 seconds, SARs are the same. Lasers melt your face off in seconds. Sniper rifles take you out in 1-2 seconds. Shotguns can kill you in 2-3 seconds.

Grenades take 5 seconds to kill. I'm sensing a disparity in the time battles last here.

Cod and bf3 suck. I played those game because it was supposed to be war in video game form. boy was I wrong. This game is different. It actually lets you be a true grenadier. Unlike fair field 3 and call of balance. if you want a fair game just go play sports. This is a war game and it will stay that way.

I say 1-2 nades. No restock from nanohives. Only supply depo's. Even with the supply depo only get 1 restock of the set. Even if you switch out no more nades until you die.

They work, so therefore they are overpowered. SIgh................

You said it yourself, everyone has access to them, so how does that give anyone an unfair advantage?

So is everyone supposed to just unload their AR clip into eachother? Strafe around in circles maybe?
Locus Grenades are tools. Very good tools. They work very well. And the best part is that they aren't extremely situational.

Yes because that's how this shooter was designed.
Grenades break that.
I see a wall of enemies I don't think "Ooh, I should flank and try to surprise them from behind!".
No.
I chuck down a proto hive and spam grenades, and watch as I kill everyone.

LOL
You have no clue.
Even then, ask all the people who walked around a corner only to be insta killed by my perfectly cooked grenade.
Over
And over
And over

So shooters were designed to be like something of the british red coats who stood in a line, fired their weapons, and then return to the back of the ranks while the next line fired and the enemy did as well?

Yea, we see how long that tactic worked for.

You don't "spam" grenades. If you thinking to throw a grenade into a crowd, that isn't spamming, that's smart playing. But a good team recognizes this and stay loose. Even communicating to the entire squad that a grenade is out.

......JL has been in this game for a VERY long time. Prolly as long as I have, and I've been here since the beginning of LAST August. People who have been here this long HAVE seen it all, HAVE been victimized by stuff like this (and FAR worse, Codex Missile Crisis anyone?), HAVE seen how OP things can get, and have a VERY firm grasp of how things in the game balance out. Don't assume that because someone disagrees with your point of view that they haven't talked to people who have been or HAVE BEEN THEMSELVES the person who get's swamped by BS like grenade spamming.

Grenades are at a good point right now. They could possibly do with a longer fuse length (SLIGHTLY longer) or perhaps some longer restock delay (1 grenade per 3-4 nanohive pulses), but there is no need for the draconian nerf you are calling for.

Grenade spamming isn't OP, there just needs to be some more options available to people to counter the tactic. I personally am looking forward to portable shield generators for this very reason.

Actually I have.
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1. You start with three of those
2. Each does 600 damage, enough to kill ANY advanced medium frame suit and with the bonus enough to kill ANY armor proto suit, and heavily damage any caldari suit.
3. Quick restock from hives
4. Spammable
5. 7.2m blast radius

EVERYONE is using those.
Watch a battle between two proto squads.
Grenades are thrown left and right carelessly, because they are:
TOO PLENTIFUL
TOO POWERFUL


In a game where kills take time, having a weapon that kills as fast as weapons in twitch shooters is just bizzare.
Especially a weapon that has no downsides and is plentiful.

Nerf the carry amount to 1.
There is a reason why COD and Battlefield only let you carry one unless you sacrifice another part of your loadout.

Halve the damage.
300 damage is still a lot.

The grenade spam is just epic.

No it is 7.2m.
And no spending SP doesn't mean you should be overpowered.

of course it must be op,i spent 1.2m, 3 week of grinding,lots of rage after i find out they nerf my underpower thukker. now my core locus.....what a bunch of loser you r all with yours nerf fest,go play hello kitty magical adventure nothing op there.so tired of nerf im almost done playing because of cry baby, one word ADDAPT,also cald logi do you know with a single flux he only got 90hp left????? it must be op. btw i never have anithing nerf yet but it **** me off that ccp listen to cry baby that cant addapt

Two words; spelling, and grammar! :P

Two words; spelling, and grammar! :P

Nerf Argon Gas, he's not reactive enough and doesn't play well with others.