Never going to happen. CCP said there will be no pay-to-win and respecs for AUR is just making it pay-to-win. Even with the ISK cost, that will mean that only wealthy players who are bankrolling in hundreds of millions of ISK thanks to planetary district ownership will be able to swim in FoTM galore.

Never going to happen. CCP said there will be no pay-to-win and respecs for AUR is just making it pay-to-win. Even with the ISK cost, that will mean that only wealthy players who are bankrolling in hundreds of millions of ISK thanks to planetary district ownership will be able to swim in FoTM galore.

its because "vets" dont want new people to adapt and defeat them

its because "vets" dont want new people to adapt and defeat them

Another lol post - vets have more SP, so they're more likely to want to put it ALL into the FOTM every time it changes, so they can get proto, prof 5 and every associated bonus skill for said FOTM. What will new people gain? A few levels into a weapon or suit? That won't help them beat the FOTM OP vets.

When did they say that?

Guys I think the OP is talking about wiping your own SP not a respec.

should be aurum only, no resets for isk

and it needs to be waaaaay more than 100 aurum, that's what, 50 cents?

Another lol post - vets have more SP, so they're more likely to want to put it ALL into the FOTM every time it changes, so they can get proto, prof 5 and every associated bonus skill for said FOTM. What will new people gain? A few levels into a weapon or suit? That won't help them beat the FOTM OP vets.

i like it when some ppl try to avoid facts and other valid reasons and i like to destroy them ppl with their own ignorance and hate

there are new ppl that like Dust514 and play it a lot but have no solid knowledge about SP system , gather and spend SP on most likely useless stuff untill they learn what and how

after they learned what and how they come here and ask aboot SP reset or respec hoping that they can undo their n00bish mistakes because now they know how the system works

the only ppl against this are the "vets" or "elitists" who hate a challenge and want easy money/kills

now if everyone would understand dusts SP well from the beggining we wouldnt have these kind of threads

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I like how you claim that people avoid facts and destroy themselves with their own ignorance and then you go on to ignore my very valid point to repeat your own foolish statements.

Yes people who made mistakes will be able to fix them but the advantages they gain will be very small against the advantages the vets who have vastly more SP to shift around into the current OP weapon. Respecs will be better for vets than anyone else - this is irrefutable - the more SP you have to respec, the greater the advantage.

you have no valid point what so ever

wanna know why?

because some ppl catch up fast how the system works , thats why they "elitists"

the only mistakes these "elitists" can undo with a respec are the ones that CCP loves to bless us with , TEH NERFS

you into BDSM?

cuz it seems you like getting beaten up

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WTH are you talking about? Vets with 15m+ SP wouldn't be respeccing to correct mistakes - they'd be respeccing to completely max out the current OP weapon and decimate everyone else (newer players especially) for the next month or so until another weapon becomes the latest FOTM.

The game will never be perfectly balanced and there will always be new stuff coming out that tips the balance one way or another. All respecs allow is the vets to follow the balance wherever it may go and non-vets will still struggle even though they can correct any mistakes they make.

they most likely maxed out the core of what they use the most

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Duh, yes, but if something better comes along, respecs will allow them to max that out straight away and they won't give a second thought to their old favourite.

when i say "elitists" i mean ppl that catch up fast how the SP system works and know what they want from the start and into what to spend the right way their SP

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You may be talking about the people who learn how to make the most of the SP system very quickly but I'm talking about the vets with 15m+ SP who will benefit more than anyone else from respecs being available.

I've only seen one post on this, and I'm curious. The general response was "They are not up-to-date with how it oughta be"

Why not charge for it, then? 4 million ISK or 100 AUR for a reset, wiping the slate clean.

I hit those numbers because it seems like 100 AUR is enough to make sure folks pay attention (and CCP gets a little cash), and the 4 million because it's a few game's worth (and enough to make sure you pay attention). You can probably make arguments for up or down, I just want it to be a compelling arguement.

Game flexibility generates revenue--that's been found again and again in other games. I don't know why this would be different.

Whatcha think?

your post just makes this topic 1 of HUNDREDS!.....

and no.....

i like it when some ppl try to avoid facts and other valid reasons and i like to destroy them ppl with their own ignorance and hate

there are new ppl that like Dust514 and play it a lot but have no solid knowledge about SP system , gather and spend SP on most likely useless stuff untill they learn what and how

after they learned what and how they come here and ask aboot SP reset or respec hoping that they can undo their n00bish mistakes because now they know how the system works

the only ppl against this are the "vets" or "elitists" who hate a challenge and want easy money/kills

now if everyone would understand dusts SP well from the beggining we wouldnt have these kind of threads

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its because "vets" dont want new people to adapt and defeat them

I've only seen one post on this, and I'm curious. The general response was "They are not up-to-date with how it oughta be"

Why not charge for it, then? 4 million ISK or 100 AUR for a reset, wiping the slate clean.

I hit those numbers because it seems like 100 AUR is enough to make sure folks pay attention (and CCP gets a little cash), and the 4 million because it's a few game's worth (and enough to make sure you pay attention). You can probably make arguments for up or down, I just want it to be a compelling arguement.

Game flexibility generates revenue--that's been found again and again in other games. I don't know why this would be different.

Whatcha think?

I'll never support a respec that isn't issued by CCP to everyone on account of a massive skill tree update.

Any amount of $$$ for a respec is too much. Paid respecs make the game Pay-2-Win. They also give CCP incentive to botch updates concerning nerfs/buffs so that each update would be followed by a bunch of paid respecs and more $$$ for CCP. It would foster more hate and mistrust between the players and the developers.

Once a month, for whatever amount of ISK, you can undo a tree from beginning to end.

Discovered you hate your assault suit? Cool, you have enough points to get a different suit.
Lasers suck? OK, now you have that all back again.
Specced into tanks? Now you can get your equipment up instead.

Oh there have been plenty of vets that have made mistakes.

Also 12 million sp is all it takes to catch up to any vet.

Oh there have been plenty of vets that have made mistakes.

Also 12 million sp is all it takes to catch up to any vet.

I've only seen one post on this, and I'm curious. The general response was "They are not up-to-date with how it oughta be"

Why not charge for it, then? 4 million ISK or 100 AUR for a reset, wiping the slate clean.

I hit those numbers because it seems like 100 AUR is enough to make sure folks pay attention (and CCP gets a little cash), and the 4 million because it's a few game's worth (and enough to make sure you pay attention). You can probably make arguments for up or down, I just want it to be a compelling arguement.

Game flexibility generates revenue--that's been found again and again in other games. I don't know why this would be different.

Whatcha think?

I've only seen one post on this, and I'm curious. The general response was "They are not up-to-date with how it oughta be"

Why not charge for it, then? 4 million ISK or 100 AUR for a reset, wiping the slate clean.

I hit those numbers because it seems like 100 AUR is enough to make sure folks pay attention (and CCP gets a little cash), and the 4 million because it's a few game's worth (and enough to make sure you pay attention). You can probably make arguments for up or down, I just want it to be a compelling arguement.

Game flexibility generates revenue--that's been found again and again in other games. I don't know why this would be different.

Whatcha think?

Seeth, you've missed a massive point against respecs here - permenancy. This is a key principle in this game that is mentioned in almost every dev/press interview that CCP has ever given. If you take away the permanancy of your choices, your decisions become meaningless and a core element of the game has to be completely thrown out.

If you want flexibility to try out different gear, you have to make that decision and spread your SP out across various things. If you want to be badass at something, you have to put all your SP into that one thing. You can't have it both ways and that is why it is important that your choices matter.

Now the whole thing about newer players making mistakes is a valid concern but offering respecs is not the best solution to this problem - the better answer is to make the NPE better, add more information, have more helpful tutorials and make the SP system easier to understand. Make militia variants of every weapon, suit and equipment, so that players can test out everything at a low level to see whether they like the feel of it. Make a MLT only game mode, so that testing this stuff can be done without the hazard of being proto-stomped every game.

People act like respecs will suddenly fix so many problems with this game but that is just tunnel vision speaking; they will cause more problems than they solve.

One thing people need to realize is that you don't NEED a ton of SP to be good at this game. Skilled players can easily break 1000 WP per game with a MLT or STD fitting. ADV doesn't take much effort to get either. You should know that you don't like a suit or weapon before you get it to proto level.

Oh there have been plenty of vets that have made mistakes.

Also 12 million sp is all it takes to catch up to any vet.