DUST Search - SP resets --why don't they exist?

THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:

Django Quik wrote:

THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:

its because "vets" dont want new people to adapt and defeat them
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Another lol post - vets have more SP, so they're more likely to want to put it ALL into the FOTM every time it changes, so they can get proto, prof 5 and every associated bonus skill for said FOTM. What will new people gain? A few levels into a weapon or suit? That won't help them beat the FOTM OP vets.

i like it when some ppl try to avoid facts and other valid reasons and i like to destroy them ppl with their own ignorance and hate

there are new ppl that like Dust514 and play it a lot but have no solid knowledge about SP system , gather and spend SP on most likely useless stuff untill they learn what and how

after they learned what and how they come here and ask aboot SP reset or respec hoping that they can undo their n00bish mistakes because now they know how the system works

the only ppl against this are the "vets" or "elitists" who hate a challenge and want easy money/kills

now if everyone would understand dusts SP well from the beggining we wouldnt have these kind of threads

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Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1263	Posted - 2013.08.17 21:07:00 - [1] - Quote Lol, you've only seen ONE post on this? Have you been living under a rock?
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1266	Posted - 2013.08.17 21:51:00 - [2] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: its because "vets" dont want new people to adapt and defeat them Another lol post - vets have more SP, so they're more likely to want to put it ALL into the FOTM every time it changes, so they can get proto, prof 5 and every associated bonus skill for said FOTM. What will new people gain? A few levels into a weapon or suit? That won't help them beat the FOTM OP vets.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1269	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:18:00 - [3] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: Django Quik wrote: THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: its because "vets" dont want new people to adapt and defeat them Another lol post - vets have more SP, so they're more likely to want to put it ALL into the FOTM every time it changes, so they can get proto, prof 5 and every associated bonus skill for said FOTM. What will new people gain? A few levels into a weapon or suit? That won't help them beat the FOTM OP vets. i like it when some ppl try to avoid facts and other valid reasons and i like to destroy them ppl with their own ignorance and hate there are new ppl that like Dust514 and play it a lot but have no solid knowledge about SP system , gather and spend SP on most likely useless stuff untill they learn what and how after they learned what and how they come here and ask aboot SP reset or respec hoping that they can undo their n00bish mistakes because now they know how the system works the only ppl against this are the "vets" or "elitists" who hate a challenge and want easy money/kills now if everyone would understand dusts SP well from the beggining we wouldnt have these kind of threads Destroyed NEXT I like how you claim that people avoid facts and destroy themselves with their own ignorance and then you go on to ignore my very valid point to repeat your own foolish statements. Yes people who made mistakes will be able to fix them but the advantages they gain will be very small against the advantages the vets who have vastly more SP to shift around into the current OP weapon. Respecs will be better for vets than anyone else - this is irrefutable - the more SP you have to respec, the greater the advantage.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1269	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:32:00 - [4] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: you have no valid point what so ever wanna know why? because some ppl catch up fast how the system works , thats why they "elitists" the only mistakes these "elitists" can undo with a respec are the ones that CCP loves to bless us with , TEH NERFS you into BDSM? cuz it seems you like getting beaten up NEXT WTH are you talking about? Vets with 15m+ SP wouldn't be respeccing to correct mistakes - they'd be respeccing to completely max out the current OP weapon and decimate everyone else (newer players especially) for the next month or so until another weapon becomes the latest FOTM. The game will never be perfectly balanced and there will always be new stuff coming out that tips the balance one way or another. All respecs allow is the vets to follow the balance wherever it may go and non-vets will still struggle even though they can correct any mistakes they make.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1269	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:38:00 - [5] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: they most likely maxed out the core of what they use the most NEXT Duh, yes, but if something better comes along, respecs will allow them to max that out straight away and they won't give a second thought to their old favourite.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1269	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:51:00 - [6] - Quote THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote: when i say "elitists" i mean ppl that catch up fast how the SP system works and know what they want from the start and into what to spend the right way their SP NEXT You may be talking about the people who learn how to make the most of the SP system very quickly but I'm talking about the vets with 15m+ SP who will benefit more than anyone else from respecs being available.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1277	Posted - 2013.08.18 09:18:00 - [7] - Quote There are literally entire corps that run FOTM gear in both pubs and PC. Atm it is mass drivers and LLAVs and all the old calogis have moved over to calassaults since that change. These are the people who would gain most from respecs because no matter what happens, there will always be something more favourable to run than anything else - true balance is impossible. Permanence and living with your decisions are some of the core principles of Dust514, so getting rid of these by allowing respecs would destroy a key aspect to the game and it would become nothing more than another bland lobby shooter (even more than it already is!). The only reasonable request for respecs is for the newer players who made poor and uninformed choices early on. With this in mind, perhaps a compromise to the whole respecs issue would be to allow unlimited respecs up to a certain amount and then one final respec (that is announced to the player ingame as being the final one) at that limit. Something like 2 million SP would perhaps be enough for new players to learn the SP ropes.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1290	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:50:00 - [8] - Quote Seeth, you've missed a massive point against respecs here - permenancy. This is a key principle in this game that is mentioned in almost every dev/press interview that CCP has ever given. If you take away the permanancy of your choices, your decisions become meaningless and a core element of the game has to be completely thrown out. If you want flexibility to try out different gear, you have to make that decision and spread your SP out across various things. If you want to be badass at something, you have to put all your SP into that one thing. You can't have it both ways and that is why it is important that your choices matter. Now the whole thing about newer players making mistakes is a valid concern but offering respecs is not the best solution to this problem - the better answer is to make the NPE better, add more information, have more helpful tutorials and make the SP system easier to understand. Make militia variants of every weapon, suit and equipment, so that players can test out everything at a low level to see whether they like the feel of it. Make a MLT only game mode, so that testing this stuff can be done without the hazard of being proto-stomped every game. People act like respecs will suddenly fix so many problems with this game but that is just tunnel vision speaking; they will cause more problems than they solve.