what weapon did you put on it?

What have you on it if I can ask?

Buuhuuu i'm so sorry you can't use your call logi isn't as an assault v2 as it was before.

You got 4 lows !!! where you can fit CPU/PG upgrades in and if i remember right the CPU upgrades doesn't cost anything so basically free CPU for 1 low slot.
There have been a lot of people stating that the nerf call logis got where a little nerf and that they should actually have had a low slot removed. Though that would clearly be a over nerf.

The amarr logi might be the most offensive minded logi but honestly the call logi is still right on it's tale being much more tanky and agile than the amarr logi.

Maybe you just gotta play as an logi and support people ??

4 shield E
1 energizer

Duvolle
Core Locus

Scanner
Uplinks
Nanohive

2 cpu uppgrades
2 regulators

4 shield E
1 energizer

Duvolle
Core Locus

Scanner
Uplinks
Nanohive

2 cpu uppgrades
2 regulators

Buuhuuu i'm so sorry you can't use your call logi isn't as good at being an assault v2 as it was before.

You got 4 lows !!! where you can fit CPU/PG upgrades in and if i remember right the CPU upgrades doesn't cost anything so basically free CPU for 1 low slot.
There have been a lot of people stating that the nerf call logis got where a little nerf and that they should actually have had a low slot removed. Though that would clearly be a over nerf.

The amarr logi might be the most offensive minded logi but honestly the call logi is still right on it's tale being much more tanky and agile than the amarr logi.

Maybe you just gotta play as an logi and support people ??

Thats more of an Assault Logi fit.

Just because of the Duvolle, Core and choice of equipment.

I'm seeing a lot of heavily tanked Cal Logis, and that seems like a decent fit, what is the level of the equipment you're using?

I'd love to be able to fit that on my Scout

Duvolle,

and I'll not swap it for a GEK, the extra range on the Duvoll is ofthen crucial in CBs.

The loss of combat effectiveness outweights the 40 or so extra armor I would gain from an enhanced ferroscale plate.

drop the cores. There I just solved your life problems.

Duvolle,

and I'll not swap it for a GEK, the extra range on the Duvoll is ofthen crucial in CBs.

The loss of combat effectiveness outweights the 40 or so extra armor I would gain from an enhanced ferroscale plate.

lol... another cal logi wishing he didn't spec into the FOTM... that is still stronger than the assault version UP? and btw, logis are meant for support, not frontline destroyers like you want.

lol you say the calogi is enaffective but you want to be a slayer get out of here with your trollism

Give the FOTM talk a rest now, I specced into it 30 minutes after I downloaded the new content.

To reverse the argument, why should the Cal suit have less CPU than the other logi suits?

With its racial bonus gone its more or less just like the other logi suits, except for the gimped CPU.

30minutes?

It only took me 10 to figure out the suit was OP.

Thats more of an Assault Logi fit.

Just because of the Duvolle, Core and choice of equipment.

I'm seeing a lot of heavily tanked Cal Logis, and that seems like a decent fit, what is the level of the equipment you're using?

I'd love to be able to fit that on my Scout

1. I have always run the suit with three different sets of equipment on it, and yes I do support.
2. I have always used a proto CPU extender on it, this geas for all myfittings.
3. In a sence I've never had more than 3 low slots due to one being a cpu uppgrade, now I have 2.
4. Stop aking these kinds of assumptions, I'm not the kind of player tha has run it with one nanohive and a million HP like many tryhards have.

There truth has been said. Look at your fitting choices it's pretty easy to see what kind of mentality people got when they go into fitting stuff.
You've clearly put either the duvolle and grenade on first and then moved on to the tank, or started with your tank and then moved on to weapons.
Either way your equipment came last in the above fitting.



If it was to me CPU enhancer would take up powergrid. If you install a bigger CPU in your pc my logic tells me that it should draw more power. So taking this over to dust putting a bigger cpu enhancer onto your suit should draw more powergrid from your suit thereby not making the CPU enhancer a free way of getting CPU but more of a choice whether you'r needing CPU or PG.
Ohh and 2 regulators damm you must have more stamina than a scout.

Well excuse me for taking the "living with your choices" mantra to heart.

Making an "informed choice" is obviously a bad idea.

I'm new to this whole MMO "we give out obviously flawed content only to nerf it 2 months later without granting the player a chance to make a new informed choice" business. But hey, the game is thriving so it must just be me right?

Putting the blame on the players for not anticipating a future nerf is streatching it....

I've given it some time now, talked to a number of other logi suit wearing players and the new cal logi suit seems to be weaker than all the rest. I don't see that giving the suit its old CPU back, making it equal to the other logi suits in this regard, will make it any form of OP.

Currently I use 2 CPU uppgrades on my CB fit and that just seems a little over the top, especially since I have all related passve skills maxed out. And thenthere's the upcoming armor buff to consider aswell.

Well excuse me for taking the "living with your choices" mantra to heart.

Making an "informed choice" is obviously a bad idea.

I'm new to this whole MMO "we give out obviously flawed content only to nerf it 2 months later without granting the player a chance to make a new informed choice" business. But hey, the game is thriving so it must just be me right?

Putting the blame on the players for not anticipating a future nerf is streatching it....

Just use a different suit to lay down your uplinks and take your proto uplink off of your combat proto suit. Proto uplinks take up way too much CPU unless you are using Allotek Stables.

Gotta love how people say you should downgrade the weapons/grenades/whatever on the Cal Logi to deal with the nerf when all the other logi classes can use the same weapons/grenades and have equitable or better tank.

Gotta love how people say you should downgrade the weapons/grenades/whatever on the Cal Logi to deal with the nerf when all the other logi classes can use the same weapons/grenades and have equitable or better tank.

Duvolle,

and I'll not swap it for a GEK, the extra range on the Duvoll is ofthen crucial in CBs.

The loss of combat effectiveness outweights the 40 or so extra armor I would gain from an enhanced ferroscale plate.

I've given it some time now, talked to a number of other logi suit wearing players and the new cal logi suit seems to be weaker than all the rest. I don't see that giving the suit its old CPU back, making it equal to the other logi suits in this regard, will make it any form of OP.

Currently I use 2 CPU uppgrades on my CB fit and that just seems a little over the top, especially since I have all related passve skills maxed out. And thenthere's the upcoming armor buff to consider aswell.

Assuming all skills are Level 5, and after the plate buff:

Amarr Logi - Duvolle, Core Flaylock, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 3x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohives.
873 EHP, 368 Shield 505 Armor, 12.81 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.33 movement 6.37 sprint. Uses 511/512 CPU and 94/94 PG.


Minmatar Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Basic Armor Plates, Enhanced Armor Repairer, Militia CPU Upgrade, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Remote Explosive.
777 EHP, 403 Shield 374 Armor, 8.75 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.81 movement 7.08 sprint. Uses 544/563 CPU, 102/102 PG. Note that one slot is used for CPU fitting but it is barely needed - the militia version works fine. PG was the main limiting factor on this build.


Caldari Logi (shield tanked for delay/regen) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 1x Complex Shield Energizer, 2x Complex Shield REgulators, Enhanced CPU Upgrade, Basic CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
614 EHP, 502 Shield 112 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.7 movement 6.91 sprint. Uses 628/654 CPU and 95/102 PG. Note that two slots are used for CPU modules; one Complex CPU doesn't cut it so I downgraded to basic/enhanced, but two are needed.

Caldari Logi (dual tanked for max buffer) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 5x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Enhanced Armor Plates, Complex PG Upgrade, Complex CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
942 EHP, 588 Shield 354 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.44 movement 6.53 sprint. Uses 580/620 CPU and 112/116 PG. Both CPU and PG upgrades are required to fit this, and with long shield delays and poor regen rates for both armor and shield, it's not an ideal dual tank (42.4 sec for full shield regen, 70.8 sec for full armor regen). This can fit a Wiyrkomi Triage Hive but not an Allotek, therefore will have to rely on someone else for ammo if the triage hive is used.


Gallente Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 4x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive.
929 EHP, 330 Shield 599 Armor, 11.25 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.45 movement 6.54 sprint. uses 508/512 CPU and 97/102 PG with no slots wasted for fitting. Full shield regen in 36 seconds and full armor regen in 53.3 seconds (faster with hive).

So yes, it is possible to fit Proto weapons/grenades and maintain proto equipment, but as you can see, the Caldari needs the most slots devoted to fitting in order to do so.

Assuming all skills are Level 5, and after the plate buff:

Amarr Logi - Duvolle, Core Flaylock, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 3x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohives.
873 EHP, 368 Shield 505 Armor, 12.81 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.33 movement 6.37 sprint. Uses 511/512 CPU and 94/94 PG.


Minmatar Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Basic Armor Plates, Enhanced Armor Repairer, Militia CPU Upgrade, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Remote Explosive.
777 EHP, 403 Shield 374 Armor, 8.75 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.81 movement 7.08 sprint. Uses 544/563 CPU, 102/102 PG. Note that one slot is used for CPU fitting but it is barely needed - the militia version works fine. PG was the main limiting factor on this build.


Caldari Logi (shield tanked for delay/regen) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 1x Complex Shield Energizer, 2x Complex Shield REgulators, Enhanced CPU Upgrade, Basic CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
614 EHP, 502 Shield 112 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.7 movement 6.91 sprint. Uses 628/654 CPU and 95/102 PG. Note that two slots are used for CPU modules; one Complex CPU doesn't cut it so I downgraded to basic/enhanced, but two are needed.

Caldari Logi (dual tanked for max buffer) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 5x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Enhanced Armor Plates, Complex PG Upgrade, Complex CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
942 EHP, 588 Shield 354 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.44 movement 6.53 sprint. Uses 580/620 CPU and 112/116 PG. Both CPU and PG upgrades are required to fit this, and with long shield delays and poor regen rates for both armor and shield, it's not an ideal dual tank (42.4 sec for full shield regen, 70.8 sec for full armor regen). This can fit a Wiyrkomi Triage Hive but not an Allotek, therefore will have to rely on someone else for ammo if the triage hive is used.


Gallente Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 4x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive.
929 EHP, 330 Shield 599 Armor, 11.25 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.45 movement 6.54 sprint. uses 508/512 CPU and 97/102 PG with no slots wasted for fitting. Full shield regen in 36 seconds and full armor regen in 53.3 seconds (faster with hive).

So yes, it is possible to fit Proto weapons/grenades and maintain proto equipment, but as you can see, the Caldari needs the most slots devoted to fitting in order to do so.

Max CPU any of the logi's can get without cpu enhancer is 502..this makes your fitting on the gallente unfeasible.

give them back their CPU, give them another equipment slot and eliminate their 4th low.

Max CPU any of the logi's can get without cpu enhancer is 502..this makes your fitting on the gallente unfeasible.

I've given it some time now, talked to a number of other logi suit wearing players and the new cal logi suit seems to be weaker than all the rest. I don't see that giving the suit its old CPU back, making it equal to the other logi suits in this regard, will make it any form of OP.

Currently I use 2 CPU uppgrades on my CB fit and that just seems a little over the top, especially since I have all related passve skills maxed out. And thenthere's the upcoming armor buff to consider aswell.

I've given it some time now, talked to a number of other logi suit wearing players and the new cal logi suit seems to be weaker than all the rest. I don't see that giving the suit its old CPU back, making it equal to the other logi suits in this regard, will make it any form of OP.

Currently I use 2 CPU uppgrades on my CB fit and that just seems a little over the top, especially since I have all related passve skills maxed out. And thenthere's the upcoming armor buff to consider aswell.

Ok, but then they should take away 1 LOW P Module slot. making it equal to the other logi suits in this regard with 8 slots.

Assuming all skills are Level 5, and after the plate buff:

Amarr Logi - Duvolle, Core Flaylock, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 3x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohives.
873 EHP, 368 Shield 505 Armor, 12.81 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.33 movement 6.37 sprint. Uses 511/512 CPU and 94/94 PG.


Minmatar Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Basic Armor Plates, Enhanced Armor Repairer, Militia CPU Upgrade, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Remote Explosive.
777 EHP, 403 Shield 374 Armor, 8.75 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.81 movement 7.08 sprint. Uses 544/563 CPU, 102/102 PG. Note that one slot is used for CPU fitting but it is barely needed - the militia version works fine. PG was the main limiting factor on this build.


Caldari Logi (shield tanked for delay/regen) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 1x Complex Shield Energizer, 2x Complex Shield REgulators, Enhanced CPU Upgrade, Basic CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
614 EHP, 502 Shield 112 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.7 movement 6.91 sprint. Uses 628/654 CPU and 95/102 PG. Note that two slots are used for CPU modules; one Complex CPU doesn't cut it so I downgraded to basic/enhanced, but two are needed.

Caldari Logi (dual tanked for max buffer) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 5x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Enhanced Armor Plates, Complex PG Upgrade, Complex CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
942 EHP, 588 Shield 354 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.44 movement 6.53 sprint. Uses 580/620 CPU and 112/116 PG. Both CPU and PG upgrades are required to fit this, and with long shield delays and poor regen rates for both armor and shield, it's not an ideal dual tank (42.4 sec for full shield regen, 70.8 sec for full armor regen). This can fit a Wiyrkomi Triage Hive but not an Allotek, therefore will have to rely on someone else for ammo if the triage hive is used.


Gallente Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 4x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive.
929 EHP, 330 Shield 599 Armor, 11.25 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.45 movement 6.54 sprint. uses 508/512 CPU and 97/102 PG with no slots wasted for fitting. Full shield regen in 36 seconds and full armor regen in 53.3 seconds (faster with hive).

So yes, it is possible to fit Proto weapons/grenades and maintain proto equipment, but as you can see, the Caldari needs the most slots devoted to fitting in order to do so.

Oh and you heard the scrubs, how dare you use a weapon on your logi suit! You should be using an exile!....
haha omfg i cant believe these people.
I officially no longer believe in democracy, the majoritys IQ is pathetic.

Give the FOTM talk a rest now, I specced into it 30 minutes after I downloaded the new content.

Hmm...assualt 4H 3L...logistics 5H 4L?! Sign me up!

Do you have Core Upgrades, Light Weapon Operation, Explosives, and Electronics to 5? I want to see screenshots.

Oh and you heard the scrubs, how dare you use a weapon on your logi suit! You should be using an exile!....
haha omfg i cant believe these people.
I officially no longer believe in democracy, the majoritys IQ is pathetic.

Well excuse me for taking the "living with your choices" mantra to heart.

Making an "informed choice" is obviously a bad idea.

I'm new to this whole MMO "we give out obviously flawed content only to nerf it 2 months later without granting the player a chance to make a new informed choice" business. But hey, the game is thriving so it must just be me right?

Putting the blame on the players for not anticipating a future nerf is streatching it....

hm, do you have the CPU upgrades on proto btw?

If they don't change the "live with your choice" mentality in a hurry there won't be a game around to balance.

If I have the money and skills to run a proto weapon and proto grenades on my proto Cal Logi and still have the equipment I want on it, why shouldn't I?

Because of some higher moral principle that logis shouldn't use proto weapons?

I thought I debunked the claim that you couldn't run proto weapons and proto equipment after the nerf with the fits I posted. It just takes more in fitting to do so compared to all other logi classes, after the CPU nerf.

As long as you aren't running high CPU items like proto drop uplinks, fitting shouldn't be much of an issue.

What is lame is that due to the nerf, almost every logi that wants to run equipment is forced to use a CPU upgrade, and maybe a PG upgrade as well.

If you are only running nanohives as a "logissault" then you might not have to sacrifice a slot for fitting modules.

Isn't the issue that the CPU nerf is too much and was unnecessary? I believe that it was, and ultimately had a more detrimental effect on real logis instead of logissaults.

What I don't understand is why other people insist that the Cal Logi is now in line with all the other logis, despite having 40 CPU less than the others at Proto level.

And the real kicker is, the module that requires the most CPU out of any piece of equipment/module is the Complex Shield Energizer (96 CPU), something that the Cal Logi will benefit more from using than any other suit.