Duvolle,

and I'll not swap it for a GEK, the extra range on the Duvoll is ofthen crucial in CBs.

The loss of combat effectiveness outweights the 40 or so extra armor I would gain from an enhanced ferroscale plate.

Give the FOTM talk a rest now, I specced into it 30 minutes after I downloaded the new content.

Well excuse me for taking the "living with your choices" mantra to heart.

Making an "informed choice" is obviously a bad idea.

I'm new to this whole MMO "we give out obviously flawed content only to nerf it 2 months later without granting the player a chance to make a new informed choice" business. But hey, the game is thriving so it must just be me right?

Putting the blame on the players for not anticipating a future nerf is streatching it....

Just use a different suit to lay down your uplinks and take your proto uplink off of your combat proto suit. Proto uplinks take up way too much CPU unless you are using Allotek Stables.

Gotta love how people say you should downgrade the weapons/grenades/whatever on the Cal Logi to deal with the nerf when all the other logi classes can use the same weapons/grenades and have equitable or better tank.

Assuming all skills are Level 5, and after the plate buff:

Amarr Logi - Duvolle, Core Flaylock, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 3x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohives.
873 EHP, 368 Shield 505 Armor, 12.81 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.33 movement 6.37 sprint. Uses 511/512 CPU and 94/94 PG.


Minmatar Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Basic Armor Plates, Enhanced Armor Repairer, Militia CPU Upgrade, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Remote Explosive.
777 EHP, 403 Shield 374 Armor, 8.75 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.81 movement 7.08 sprint. Uses 544/563 CPU, 102/102 PG. Note that one slot is used for CPU fitting but it is barely needed - the militia version works fine. PG was the main limiting factor on this build.


Caldari Logi (shield tanked for delay/regen) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 4x Complex Shield Extenders, 1x Complex Shield Energizer, 2x Complex Shield REgulators, Enhanced CPU Upgrade, Basic CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
614 EHP, 502 Shield 112 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.7 movement 6.91 sprint. Uses 628/654 CPU and 95/102 PG. Note that two slots are used for CPU modules; one Complex CPU doesn't cut it so I downgraded to basic/enhanced, but two are needed.

Caldari Logi (dual tanked for max buffer) - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 5x Complex Shield Extenders, 2x Enhanced Armor Plates, Complex PG Upgrade, Complex CPU Upgrade, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive.
942 EHP, 588 Shield 354 Armor, 5 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.44 movement 6.53 sprint. Uses 580/620 CPU and 112/116 PG. Both CPU and PG upgrades are required to fit this, and with long shield delays and poor regen rates for both armor and shield, it's not an ideal dual tank (42.4 sec for full shield regen, 70.8 sec for full armor regen). This can fit a Wiyrkomi Triage Hive but not an Allotek, therefore will have to rely on someone else for ammo if the triage hive is used.


Gallente Logi - Duvolle, Core Locus Grenade, 3x Complex Shield Extenders, 4x Basic Armor Plates, Complex Armor Repairer, Six Kin Triage Repair Tool, Wiyrkomi Nanite Injector, Ishukone Gauged Nanohive, Wiyrkomi Triage Nanohive.
929 EHP, 330 Shield 599 Armor, 11.25 HP/s Armor Repair, 4.45 movement 6.54 sprint. uses 508/512 CPU and 97/102 PG with no slots wasted for fitting. Full shield regen in 36 seconds and full armor regen in 53.3 seconds (faster with hive).

So yes, it is possible to fit Proto weapons/grenades and maintain proto equipment, but as you can see, the Caldari needs the most slots devoted to fitting in order to do so.

Oh and you heard the scrubs, how dare you use a weapon on your logi suit! You should be using an exile!....
haha omfg i cant believe these people.
I officially no longer believe in democracy, the majoritys IQ is pathetic.

If I have the money and skills to run a proto weapon and proto grenades on my proto Cal Logi and still have the equipment I want on it, why shouldn't I?

Because of some higher moral principle that logis shouldn't use proto weapons?

I thought I debunked the claim that you couldn't run proto weapons and proto equipment after the nerf with the fits I posted. It just takes more in fitting to do so compared to all other logi classes, after the CPU nerf.

As long as you aren't running high CPU items like proto drop uplinks, fitting shouldn't be much of an issue.

What is lame is that due to the nerf, almost every logi that wants to run equipment is forced to use a CPU upgrade, and maybe a PG upgrade as well.

If you are only running nanohives as a "logissault" then you might not have to sacrifice a slot for fitting modules.