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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:03:00 -
[61] - Quote
LoveNewlooy wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Did the fitting for the Gallente logistics, and it is possible but there are some caveats that would mean this suit will not be abused in this way. First of all the suit will move at 4.09 m/s, thats almost the speed of a heavy without the same HP, absolutely no room for equipment not even a hive, if using a Duvolle and it requires 5/5 fitting skills. Also because of how limiting the speed is nobody is going to make this type of suit, also this type of suit is currently possible just with lower HP but it is also possible with every other suit but because of the speed penalties nobody uses it, thus it doesn't exist now and it won't exist then.
The Assault gk.0 can get be built slightly the same, but with 100 armor HP less. The difference is that it also has to resort to a Gek-38 and has lower repair (again I believe CCP will add passive armor), on the plus side it has higher shield repair and a speed of 4.51 m/s which is way faster than the logistics.
nobody is going to make this type of suit? i do that suit and i almost alway at top list leaderboad.
You run a medium suit for 4 complex armor modules? Unless your a sniper, a TacAR user, or a heavy I highly doubt it. That meabs your suits speed is like 3.4-3.7 m/s. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:07:00 -
[62] - Quote
Mamertine Son wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:so i did some more math and the gallentai logi can beat the cal logi by 88hp in raw hp with the cal maxing at 1173 hp and the gal at 1261.
aswell as this if the suits were going up against explosive weaponry the the gal still wins but only by 1.25hp.i think something went wrong with that second calc im gonna repeat it.
EDIT: GAL wins!!!! and both suits had a unskilled duvolle fitted Um... is anyone else seeing a problem with this whole logi thing? I'm lucky if I can get 600(total)hp on my assault and logis seem to be able to fit almost double that. Did we at some point decide to make logi's the real front liners? I guess I was a bit of a noob who saw thrown off by the wording. I saw 'Assault' and was like 'I can f stuff up with this' and the word logi and thought 'pff... why would I wanna support my team?' If I had known I would have spec'd into logi.
Difference between the Logi suit and Assault suit after 1.4 would be 5 repair and 100 armor HP. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
493
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
...and I was just getting used to shield tanking. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
61
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:10:00 -
[64] - Quote
BL4CKST4R wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Did the fitting for the Gallente logistics, and it is possible but there are some caveats that would mean this suit will not be abused in this way. First of all the suit will move at 4.09 m/s, thats almost the speed of a heavy without the same HP, absolutely no room for equipment not even a hive, if using a Duvolle and it requires 5/5 fitting skills. Also because of how limiting the speed is nobody is going to make this type of suit, also this type of suit is currently possible just with lower HP but it is also possible with every other suit but because of the speed penalties nobody uses it, thus it doesn't exist now and it won't exist then.
The Assault gk.0 can get be built slightly the same, but with 100 armor HP less. The difference is that it also has to resort to a Gek-38 and has lower repair (again I believe CCP will add passive armor), on the plus side it has higher shield repair and a speed of 4.51 m/s which is way faster than the logistics.
nobody is going to make this type of suit? i do that suit and i almost alway at top list leaderboad. You run a medium suit for 4 complex armor modules? Unless your a sniper, a TacAR user, or a heavy I highly doubt it. That meabs your suits speed is like 3.4-3.7 m/s.
yes im slow so wat doesnt mean i cant kill people |
Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:12:00 -
[65] - Quote
BL4CKST4R wrote:Mamertine Son wrote:richiesutie 2 wrote:so i did some more math and the gallentai logi can beat the cal logi by 88hp in raw hp with the cal maxing at 1173 hp and the gal at 1261.
aswell as this if the suits were going up against explosive weaponry the the gal still wins but only by 1.25hp.i think something went wrong with that second calc im gonna repeat it.
EDIT: GAL wins!!!! and both suits had a unskilled duvolle fitted Um... is anyone else seeing a problem with this whole logi thing? I'm lucky if I can get 600(total)hp on my assault and logis seem to be able to fit almost double that. Did we at some point decide to make logi's the real front liners? I guess I was a bit of a noob who saw thrown off by the wording. I saw 'Assault' and was like 'I can f stuff up with this' and the word logi and thought 'pff... why would I wanna support my team?' If I had known I would have spec'd into logi. Difference between the Logi suit and Assault suit after 1.4 would be 5 repair and 100 armor HP.
And that 5 repair is a lot, considering complex repairer does 5. |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:14:00 -
[66] - Quote
I'm a gallente suit.I"ts not about stacking or not stacking armor on the suits...its what there roles are..gallente assaults are over 600 armor and are letter defender,or power killers..Weakness is splash damage or gernades...No way around that besides play better...Now the logi's are logi's they shouldnt be assault suits..They sit back,and equipment the hell out of people nd provide support fire when needed. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1065
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:14:00 -
[67] - Quote
LoveNewlooy wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Did the fitting for the Gallente logistics, and it is possible but there are some caveats that would mean this suit will not be abused in this way. First of all the suit will move at 4.09 m/s, thats almost the speed of a heavy without the same HP, absolutely no room for equipment not even a hive, if using a Duvolle and it requires 5/5 fitting skills. Also because of how limiting the speed is nobody is going to make this type of suit, also this type of suit is currently possible just with lower HP but it is also possible with every other suit but because of the speed penalties nobody uses it, thus it doesn't exist now and it won't exist then.
The Assault gk.0 can get be built slightly the same, but with 100 armor HP less. The difference is that it also has to resort to a Gek-38 and has lower repair (again I believe CCP will add passive armor), on the plus side it has higher shield repair and a speed of 4.51 m/s which is way faster than the logistics.
nobody is going to make this type of suit? i do that suit and i almost alway at top list leaderboad. You run a medium suit for 4 complex armor modules? Unless your a sniper, a TacAR user, or a heavy I highly doubt it. That meabs your suits speed is like 3.4-3.7 m/s. yes im slow so wat doesnt mean i cant kill people
No but it means you are extremely easy to kill. |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
123
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:43:00 -
[68] - Quote
mmmm more hp for my gallogi.. I'm at a crossroads on my fitting options.. 3 plates 2 reps or 2 plates 3 reps? |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
61
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:50:00 -
[69] - Quote
BL4CKST4R wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Did the fitting for the Gallente logistics, and it is possible but there are some caveats that would mean this suit will not be abused in this way. First of all the suit will move at 4.09 m/s, thats almost the speed of a heavy without the same HP, absolutely no room for equipment not even a hive, if using a Duvolle and it requires 5/5 fitting skills. Also because of how limiting the speed is nobody is going to make this type of suit, also this type of suit is currently possible just with lower HP but it is also possible with every other suit but because of the speed penalties nobody uses it, thus it doesn't exist now and it won't exist then.
The Assault gk.0 can get be built slightly the same, but with 100 armor HP less. The difference is that it also has to resort to a Gek-38 and has lower repair (again I believe CCP will add passive armor), on the plus side it has higher shield repair and a speed of 4.51 m/s which is way faster than the logistics.
nobody is going to make this type of suit? i do that suit and i almost alway at top list leaderboad. You run a medium suit for 4 complex armor modules? Unless your a sniper, a TacAR user, or a heavy I highly doubt it. That meabs your suits speed is like 3.4-3.7 m/s. yes im slow so wat doesnt mean i cant kill people No but it means you are extremely easy to kill.
well seem like u didnt know me much lol back in wr |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:52:00 -
[70] - Quote
you can always recharge shields...you'll never be able to repair armor without nanohivess or repair gun,supply depot etc.THIS IS P.C. CRAP
in any case moving slowly doesnt mean you can't kill.
ALSO YOU CN PUT ALL 5% IN CARDIO BOOST FOR EXTRA HELP. |
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
485
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:05:00 -
[71] - Quote
I agree that the OP is being foolish here. I can't wait to see you trundling about with that many armor plates since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
Remember at 34 damage per shot from an AR (I'm not looking at dust right now so please excuse me if that number is off) your looking at 34*60 for a potential damage of 2040 damage per clip, which is ignoring head shots for simplicity's sake. Even assuming that only half of my shots land that still is more than enough to kill a 1000 hp suit in a single clip. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
61
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:11:00 -
[72] - Quote
Mobius Kaethis wrote:I agree that the OP is being foolish here. I can't wait to see you trundling about with that many armor plates since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
Remember at 34 damage per shot from an AR (I'm not looking at dust right now so please excuse me if that number is off) your looking at 34*60 for a potential damage of 2040 damage per clip, which is ignoring head shots for simplicity's sake. Even assuming that only half of my shots land that still is more than enough to kill a 1000 hp suit in a single clip.
lol let me guess ur a cal if u talking about ar hit about 2k dmg its same as ascr they kill sheild faster so its about same.
ascr hit about 90dmg (with 2x dmg modules ofc)on sheild and headshot so yeah 72x39.2 |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:13:00 -
[73] - Quote
Mobius Kaethis wrote:I agree that the OP is being foolish here. I can't wait to see you trundling about with that many armor plates since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
Remember at 34 damage per shot from an AR (I'm not looking at dust right now so please excuse me if that number is off) your looking at 34*60 for a potential of 2040 damage per clip, which is ignoring head shots for simplicity's sake. Even assuming that only half of my shots land that still is more than enough to kill a 1000 hp suit in a single clip.
total agree... molon labe asswhoopin  |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
123
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:13:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote: since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
(Dials sensitivity setting up by 20)
slower turn rate bypassed looool 
and yes i agree, op was bein a bit foolish. Who the **** would fit that many plates, c'mon now. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1087
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:16:00 -
[75] - Quote
Even though OP post is incredibly stupid with his fail logic and lack of knowledge in armor tanking suits I'd like to say that armor will always have more HP than shields.
That's just the way it is and that's the way it's always been. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
61
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:17:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote: since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
(Dials sensitivity setting up by 20) slower turn rate bypassed looool
lol well depand on who u fighing with if u fighing with some player with kb/m with dpi setting they had same speed as you. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
61
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Even though OP post is incredibly stupid with his fail logic and lack of knowledge in armor tanking suits I'd like to say that armor will always have more HP than shields.
That's just the way it is and that's the way it's always been.
true +1 |
godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:18:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote: since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
(Dials sensitivity setting up by 20) slower turn rate bypassed looool and yes i agree, op was bein a bit foolish. Who the **** would fit that many plates, c'mon now.
good call |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
62
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:21:00 -
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godhands9 wrote:Smoky Fingers wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote: since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
(Dials sensitivity setting up by 20) slower turn rate bypassed looool and yes i agree, op was bein a bit foolish. Who the **** would fit that many plates, c'mon now. good call
i use 5 armor plate XD |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
124
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:26:00 -
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LoveNewlooy wrote:godhands9 wrote:Smoky Fingers wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote: since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
(Dials sensitivity setting up by 20) slower turn rate bypassed looool and yes i agree, op was bein a bit foolish. Who the **** would fit that many plates, c'mon now. good call i use 5 armor plate XD
5 complex Reps. Com @ mii broah  |
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godhands9
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
16
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:31:00 -
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Smoky Fingers wrote:LoveNewlooy wrote:godhands9 wrote:Smoky Fingers wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote: since I'm going to blast the crap out of you before you can turn and aim at me.
(Dials sensitivity setting up by 20) slower turn rate bypassed looool and yes i agree, op was bein a bit foolish. Who the **** would fit that many plates, c'mon now. good call i use 5 armor plate XD 5 complex Reps. Com @ mii broah
yea dude..like for example i have a just a ****** pubmatch sniper suit..check it..its a gk.0 suit with 2 damage mods shield extender for extra shield 160/armor 460/with 12.50 a sec. recharge on armor..with a level 2 tactical sniper..lol..i **** so many people off with protosnipers |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
242
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:39:00 -
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Argon Gas wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:4 complex plates = 48 pg.
1 complex repper = 11 pg
2 complex damage mods = 18 pg
1 complex shield extender = 11 pg.
Duvolle = 11 pg (8 with fitting optimization)
That's 99 pg without any nades or equips...Yeah...you'd need all core skills maxxed out, couldn't run much for nades, and no equips. I have 102 pg. with all core skills decked out.
/thread and the move speed penalty for that stacking included would still bring you down to 4.09 move speed....which is slow as ****. Funny, because I can fit it on my logi right now. 1 Complex repper. 4x Complex plates. 1x Complex shield extender 1x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x GEK (I don't use duvolles, I see them as pointless since the performance boost is very minor) 1x M1 Locus Grenade 1x Ishukone hive
Where's your drop uplinks? How about your repair tool? Huh. I don't see a nanite injector in that loadout, either.
I am a real logistics trooper, Argon Gas, and, son, you're no logistics trooper. You're an *assault* player abusing the logistics class, and then yipping that it should be nerfed. Us logistics players ought to be pissed off at folks like you who run around doing this stuff, and if CCP listens to your "advice," those us who role-play properly wind up being punished because of players like you.
And, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I'm going to be running around in a proto logistics suit with proto equipment out the wahoo to keep people like you, Argon Gas, supplied, repaired, healed and with strategic respawn points, I want protection. There's no way in God's green earth that I'm going to waste my ISK saving/resupplying your butt if my logistics suit of choice is nerfed because of assault players who abused the role-play system. |
Dr Stabwounds
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
75
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:40:00 -
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LOL at the nerf this OP suit fail. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
439
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:42:00 -
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I wonder when the Assault suits are gonna get better at assauling then the logies.... |
Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:44:00 -
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Quill Killian wrote:Argon Gas wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:4 complex plates = 48 pg.
1 complex repper = 11 pg
2 complex damage mods = 18 pg
1 complex shield extender = 11 pg.
Duvolle = 11 pg (8 with fitting optimization)
That's 99 pg without any nades or equips...Yeah...you'd need all core skills maxxed out, couldn't run much for nades, and no equips. I have 102 pg. with all core skills decked out.
/thread and the move speed penalty for that stacking included would still bring you down to 4.09 move speed....which is slow as ****. Funny, because I can fit it on my logi right now. 1 Complex repper. 4x Complex plates. 1x Complex shield extender 1x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x GEK (I don't use duvolles, I see them as pointless since the performance boost is very minor) 1x M1 Locus Grenade 1x Ishukone hive Where's your drop uplinks? How about your repair tool? Huh. I don't see a nanite injector in that loadout, either. I am a real logistics trooper, Argon Gas, and, son, you're no logistics trooper. You're an *assault* player abusing the logistics class, and then yipping that it should be nerfed. Us logistics players ought to be pissed off at folks like you who run around doing this stuff, and if CCP listens to your "advice," those us who role-play properly wind up being punished because of players like you. And, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I'm going to be running around in a proto logistics suit with proto equipment out the wahoo to keep people like you, Argon Gas, supplied, repaired, healed and with strategic respawn points, I want protection. There's no way in God's green earth that I'm going to waste my ISK saving/resupplying your butt if my logistics suit of choice is nerfed because of assault players who abused the role-play system.
I do not care that you play it right.
Good for you.
But players will abuse the **** out of it.
Why should your suit, designed to help other people rather than being a direct combat suit, be better at direct combat than an assault? |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
125
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:46:00 -
[86] - Quote
Quill Killian wrote:Argon Gas wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:4 complex plates = 48 pg.
1 complex repper = 11 pg
2 complex damage mods = 18 pg
1 complex shield extender = 11 pg.
Duvolle = 11 pg (8 with fitting optimization)
That's 99 pg without any nades or equips...Yeah...you'd need all core skills maxxed out, couldn't run much for nades, and no equips. I have 102 pg. with all core skills decked out.
/thread and the move speed penalty for that stacking included would still bring you down to 4.09 move speed....which is slow as ****. Funny, because I can fit it on my logi right now. 1 Complex repper. 4x Complex plates. 1x Complex shield extender 1x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x GEK (I don't use duvolles, I see them as pointless since the performance boost is very minor) 1x M1 Locus Grenade 1x Ishukone hive Where's your drop uplinks? How about your repair tool? Huh. I don't see a nanite injector in that loadout, either. I am a real logistics trooper, Argon Gas, and, son, you're no logistics trooper. You're an *assault* player abusing the logistics class, and then yipping that it should be nerfed. Us logistics players ought to be pissed off at folks like you who run around doing this stuff, and if CCP listens to your "advice," those us who role-play properly wind up being punished because of players like you. And, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I'm going to be running around in a proto logistics suit with proto equipment out the wahoo to keep people like you, Argon Gas, supplied, repaired, healed and with strategic respawn points, I want protection. There's no way in God's green earth that I'm going to waste my ISK saving/resupplying your butt if my logistics suit of choice is nerfed because of assault players who abused the role-play system.
Errrr Argon, 1/4 equipment slots used... That bothers me.. Maybe you can switch out the ishukone for 3 compact hives and an extra tool of your choice. |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
242
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:53:00 -
[87] - Quote
Argon Gas wrote:Quill Killian wrote:Argon Gas wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:4 complex plates = 48 pg.
1 complex repper = 11 pg
2 complex damage mods = 18 pg
1 complex shield extender = 11 pg.
Duvolle = 11 pg (8 with fitting optimization)
That's 99 pg without any nades or equips...Yeah...you'd need all core skills maxxed out, couldn't run much for nades, and no equips. I have 102 pg. with all core skills decked out.
/thread and the move speed penalty for that stacking included would still bring you down to 4.09 move speed....which is slow as ****. Funny, because I can fit it on my logi right now. 1 Complex repper. 4x Complex plates. 1x Complex shield extender 1x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x GEK (I don't use duvolles, I see them as pointless since the performance boost is very minor) 1x M1 Locus Grenade 1x Ishukone hive Where's your drop uplinks? How about your repair tool? Huh. I don't see a nanite injector in that loadout, either. I am a real logistics trooper, Argon Gas, and, son, you're no logistics trooper. You're an *assault* player abusing the logistics class, and then yipping that it should be nerfed. Us logistics players ought to be pissed off at folks like you who run around doing this stuff, and if CCP listens to your "advice," those us who role-play properly wind up being punished because of players like you. And, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I'm going to be running around in a proto logistics suit with proto equipment out the wahoo to keep people like you, Argon Gas, supplied, repaired, healed and with strategic respawn points, I want protection. There's no way in God's green earth that I'm going to waste my ISK saving/resupplying your butt if my logistics suit of choice is nerfed because of assault players who abused the role-play system. I do not care that you play it right.Good for you. But players will abuse the **** out of it. Why should your suit, designed to help other people rather than being a direct combat suit, be better at direct combat than an assault?
That right there is the problem with some people in this community. |
Mamertine Son
R.E.B.E.L.S
131
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:04:00 -
[88] - Quote
with regards to the Logi being too much of an assault.
Logi's are better at being assaults. They have the slots and the resources to run enough hp that they can 1 v 1 (possibly even 1 v 2 )without much assistance.
If CCP wants i'll spec into Logi because I like the amount of hp they can fit on their suits. 3 members of my corp have already done this. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
330
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:12:00 -
[89] - Quote
Rei Shepard wrote:I wonder when the Assault suits are gonna get better at assauling then the logies....
When logi suits bonuses are for equipment and assault bonuses are for damage or ammo capacity or weapon heat buildups etc. etc.
The first part has been promised already so there's no point to this debate since logistics need to be able to survive the same as assaults, but their focus (specialisation) should be in offence or support, not survivability, that's for the different Factions to have their differences. |
Argon Gas
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.08.14 19:39:00 -
[90] - Quote
Quill Killian wrote:Argon Gas wrote:Quill Killian wrote:Argon Gas wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:4 complex plates = 48 pg.
1 complex repper = 11 pg
2 complex damage mods = 18 pg
1 complex shield extender = 11 pg.
Duvolle = 11 pg (8 with fitting optimization)
That's 99 pg without any nades or equips...Yeah...you'd need all core skills maxxed out, couldn't run much for nades, and no equips. I have 102 pg. with all core skills decked out.
/thread and the move speed penalty for that stacking included would still bring you down to 4.09 move speed....which is slow as ****. Funny, because I can fit it on my logi right now. 1 Complex repper. 4x Complex plates. 1x Complex shield extender 1x Complex damage mod 1x Enhanced damage mod 1x GEK (I don't use duvolles, I see them as pointless since the performance boost is very minor) 1x M1 Locus Grenade 1x Ishukone hive Where's your drop uplinks? How about your repair tool? Huh. I don't see a nanite injector in that loadout, either. I am a real logistics trooper, Argon Gas, and, son, you're no logistics trooper. You're an *assault* player abusing the logistics class, and then yipping that it should be nerfed. Us logistics players ought to be pissed off at folks like you who run around doing this stuff, and if CCP listens to your "advice," those us who role-play properly wind up being punished because of players like you. And, I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I'm going to be running around in a proto logistics suit with proto equipment out the wahoo to keep people like you, Argon Gas, supplied, repaired, healed and with strategic respawn points, I want protection. There's no way in God's green earth that I'm going to waste my ISK saving/resupplying your butt if my logistics suit of choice is nerfed because of assault players who abused the role-play system. I do not care that you play it right.Good for you. But players will abuse the **** out of it. Why should your suit, designed to help other people rather than being a direct combat suit, be better at direct combat than an assault? That right there is the problem with some people in this community.
If you do it right, I have no problem with you.
I have a problem with the people that don't, the people that use this suit as a better assault. |
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