I think it's fine right now, but inconsistent.

Supposedly when we get precision rifles (minmatar sniper rifles), all the caldari ones will work like the charge sniper.

I love my sniper rifle. I just started to really build a silent killing machine. I mean I am really going hardcore ninja here. I use my proto suit and my Thale yes I said Thale sniper rifle and I go huntin wabbit. SHHHHHH be very very quite. Leave the weapon alone, what is wrong with players always wanting to change things. Leave it be unless it has a problem that prevents it from working like a glitch. If it works leave it the F alone and I must say it is only one of a few that works the correct way. I gave up my proto Heavy because of the glitches that is why I went sniper.

I'm a sniper and I love to snipe. I love redline sniping if it is beneficial. Sometimes it can be. I move around where I can be useful and have been useful many times where just being another assault wouldn't have helped.

I'd like to see sniping nerfed so that only those who have skilled into it can benefit though.


Make it like an actual rifle for sniping (there is no such thing as a sniper rifle in RL) only a rifle that is good for long range shots and therefore gets adopted as a sniper rifle.

Make it single shot and then you have to reload.

Make it more powerful per shot.

Make the skills give the rifle its power and usefulness even more so than they do now.

Allow for better identification of specific targets so a squad leader can mark a target that is being especially tough and the sniper can do what a sniper's job is mainly for GÇö to take out specific, hard targets.

question, how old are you?

Old enough to drink young enough not to be collecting social security. Does this answer your question?

Only the charge sniper has a charge because the snipers have a 'miniature' railgun system. The order of railgun power is this:

1. Forge Guns

2. Large Railguns

3. Sniper Rifles

4. Small Railguns

So it makes sense that only the most powerful sniper requires charge...

There is the general feeling that sniping is way too easy within the DUST player-base (or at least the people that aren't yoloswag sniper 420 Q. scope mastaz ). This is to no surprise to me. The rail sniper rifles we have in this game are Caldari and anything Caldari in this game is easy mode, taking little to no thought to do well with due to the current nature of the game.


With that being said
That's the way the Caldari fight, they take a very low risk route by fighting from afar and striking instantly and it make sense, it honestly does. All races have their own fighting style and that's one of the awesome and unique things about the EVE universe.

I agree that since the Caldari Sniper Rifle is rail based it should be near instant, highly accurate and powerful.

What it shouldn't have however is
1.little to no recoil that allows you to make follow up shots in less than a second.
2. A large magazine capacity for a weapon capable of such power
3. No charge time even though it operates just like a rail gun in every single way

If the listed items above were taken away along with the addition of a slight increase to Sniper Rail Rifle damage (along with a stun affect bonus maybe?) and more racial sniper variants that all have their advantages and disadvantages I think it would make DUST just a little bit more of a tolerable place.

I can only hope to think that CCP made the sniper rifles like this temporarily because of the lack of other racial variants.

This topic is so unbiased

I don't get why it's overpowered. A single shot cannot take down anyone but a scout suit. Sniping is not easy - it's about the same as using other weapons, it has it's nuances and difficulties to work around of.

gtfo
You just want to keep your easy mode weapon.

I'm not nerfing this weapon I'm saying that a sniper rifle should require more skill than it currently requires. I even said that it should get a damage increase in addition to the skill required.

Go play CoD if you want insta win rifles so much.

I'm not saying the weapon is OP. I'm saying the weapon is too easy to use. Like too many other weapons in this game.
We need to start rewarding players based on their capacity and not just because they can spam a button.

I think dropping the sniper rifles to one shot then reload is a bad idea. They're fairly weak as
they are now imo. And I rarely snipe these days. And I rarely die to a sniper rifle unless I've
already been tagged a few times by something else.

I suppose I would be okay with a bolt action sort of function but then my geek side says
it's a sci-fi shooter so no.
If it moves to a reload after every shot deal then those T5 rifles should be able to one shot
high tanked proto heavies, headshots only. As well as body shot all other protos and drop
them no problems.
I'd be okay with that.
Though that may just be me...

have you even used it? If so, how many kills did you get and how helpful were you to your team? If you think its easy you're either an incredibly coordinated fps gamer or a moron, and I'm willing to bet it's not the former. I'm sick of seeing this judgement get thrown around like nobodies business, especially when the people who are doing it have strapped into a sniper suit once, maybe twice. Complaining about things like this is the reason why we can never have nice things

I love my sniper rifle. I just started to really build a silent killing machine. I mean I am really going hardcore ninja here. I use my proto suit and my Thale yes I said Thale sniper rifle and I go huntin wabbit. SHHHHHH be very very quite. Leave the weapon alone, what is wrong with players always wanting to change things. Leave it be unless it has a problem that prevents it from working like a glitch. If it works leave it the F alone and I must say it is only one of a few that works the correct way. I gave up my proto Heavy because of the glitches that is why I went sniper.

Use it a damn lot get out of here ****.

Like a poster here mentioned earlier I want this weapon to be associated with skill. Not guys that are poor at this game It's easy to tell between the ones that are actually good with this weapon and saying it's fine and the people that are scared to lose the only weapon they can use without dying.

I could make several points with other weapons but this is a sniper rifle thread discussing the sniper rifle, not wanting to nerf it, not wanting to buff it.

Sniper Rifles are fine.

Nerf Sniper MDs

Snipers are easy mode because there is no bullet drop in dust and i dont think there is bullet speed or it's extremly fast.So,no need to lead target,no need to compensate for bullet drop,just point and click.Stay in redline or on top of a building and enjoy the free kills.Boring as **** but noobs love it

Sniping is different than in other games. No bullet drop (that wouldn't make sense), but the sniper rifle lacks the advantages of sniper rifles in other games:

- less power (no OHK unless you're targeting scouts)
- less zoom (unless you have a rare Thales)

Snipers that are redlining, or stuck on top of a building for a whole match, are generally useless to the team. If (when?) CCP fixes SP awards based on WP, there'll be a lot less snipers around. Only the good ones will stay and you'll be happy to have them on your team.

If you can't beat em, join em. Fight fire with fire, just deal with it, run up to that sniper and kill him with a shotgun!!!!

There is the general feeling that sniping is way too easy within the DUST player-base (or at least the people that aren't yoloswag sniper 420 Q. scope mastaz ). This is to no surprise to me. The rail sniper rifles we have in this game are Caldari and anything Caldari in this game is easy mode, taking little to no thought to do well with due to the current nature of the game.


With that being said
That's the way the Caldari fight, they take a very low risk route by fighting from afar and striking instantly and it make sense, it honestly does. All races have their own fighting style and that's one of the awesome and unique things about the EVE universe.

I agree that since the Caldari Sniper Rifle is rail based it should be near instant, highly accurate and powerful.

What it shouldn't have however is
1.little to no recoil that allows you to make follow up shots in less than a second.
2. A large magazine capacity for a weapon capable of such power
3. No charge time even though it operates just like a rail gun in every single way

If the listed items above were taken away along with the addition of a slight increase to Sniper Rail Rifle damage (along with a stun affect bonus maybe?) and more racial sniper variants that all have their advantages and disadvantages I think it would make DUST just a little bit more of a tolerable place.

I can only hope to think that CCP made the sniper rifles like this temporarily because of the lack of other racial variants.

No redline would balance snipers easily.

Would also like a more visual cue from sniper fire, (either a glow when charging;flash if not a charge when fired or more visible tracers from rounds fired). To be clear this would not show them on tacnet, but just a visual cue that would give the scout sniper a niche when stealth comes out, (to relocate). This would make them easier to spot when they fire, but only if you are actively looking for them.

I also am in favor of a one shot SR, (one round clip), but whose scope works as an active scanner for friendly tacnet.

Original post is in feedback section from yesterday.

I don't get why it's overpowered. A single shot cannot take down anyone but a scout suit. Sniping is not easy - it's about the same as using other weapons, it has it's nuances and difficulties to work around of.

There is the general feeling that sniping is way too easy within thMe DUST player-base (or at least the people that aren't yoloswag sniper 420 Q. scope mastaz ). This is to no surprise to me. The rail sniper rifles we have in this game are Caldari and anything Caldari in this game is easy mode, taking little to no thought to do well with due to the current nature of the game.


With that being said
That's the way the Caldari fight, they take a very low risk route by fighting from afar and striking instantly and it make sense, it honestly does. All races have their own fighting style and that's one of the awesome and unique things about the EVE universe.

I agree that since the Caldari Sniper Rifle is rail based it should be near instant, highly accurate and powerful.

What it shouldn't have however is
1.little to no recoil that allows you to make follow up shots in less than a second.
2. A large magazine capacity for a weapon capable of such power
3. No charge time even though it operates just like a rail gun in every single way

If the listed items above were taken away along with the addition of a slight increase to Sniper Rail Rifle damage (along with a stun affect bonus maybe?) and more racial sniper variants that all have their advantages and disadvantages I think it would make DUST just a little bit more of a tolerable place.

I can only hope to think that CCP made the sniper rifles like this temporarily because of the lack of other racial variants.

I swear i've seen this rage thread before, even that yolo swag comment.

anyway, when some people take 2-3 shots from the highest damage sniper rifle in the game, I think you ground troops have it easy honestly.

I spend more time suppressing ground then I do straight up killing lately, *enemy proto stompers take high ground where nobody can reach them* and then *I make sure they regret holding that ground as long as I have my sniper rifle*.

it's only the stubborn bastards that won't leave that high ground that end up dieing a lot.

Snipers are easy mode because there is no bullet drop in dust and i dont think there is bullet speed or it's extremly fast.So,no need to lead target,no need to compensate for bullet drop,just point and click.Stay in redline or on top of a building and enjoy the free kills.Boring as **** but noobs love it

I'm a sniper and I love to snipe. I love redline sniping if it is beneficial. Sometimes it can be. I move around where I can be useful and have been useful many times where just being another assault wouldn't have helped.

I'd like to see sniping nerfed so that only those who have skilled into it can benefit though.


Make it like an actual rifle for sniping (there is no such thing as a sniper rifle in RL) only a rifle that is good for long range shots and therefore gets adopted as a sniper rifle.

Make it single shot and then you have to reload.

Make it more powerful per shot.

Make the skills give the rifle its power and usefulness even more so than they do now.

Allow for better identification of specific targets so a squad leader can mark a target that is being especially tough and the sniper can do what a sniper's job is mainly for GÇö to take out specific, hard targets.

the only problem is the redline. I would have no problem with this if it wasn't for the fact most snipers are redline snipers.

it would be impossible to kill them.

I find sniping to be pretty difficult and that is all I do on my alt; you become a target like a vehicle does when it drops. There's a level of intensity and need for hyper situation awareness that makes it pretty fun. I go out to take on other snipers - even if I'm not killing them, I'm locking them down from murdering the rest of the team. Sometimes.

I think the weapons are pretty easy to use but it does take some practice - rendering is all kinds of wack. I'm not using a mouse with a DPI macro which is probably increasing the difficulty. Making it 'harder' is not really going to deter people from using it - most will learn how to adapt to it.

I really find it funny how every once and a while someone starts bashing DUST sniping as "easy mode" and "cowardly". These comments are usually accompanied by arguments about DUST snipers not having bullet drop, travel time, recoil and whatnot.

First of all, if you take into account the technology involved in railguns (even present day ones), you'll quickly realize that, at speeds those projectiles are fired, and typical sniper engagement distances, you actually can completely ignore bullet drop and travel time. They simply aren't a factor to consider.

Second, in most other shooters (not to mention RL), a sniper rifle will kill any infantry with a single bullet. In DUST, things are "slightly" different. Standard sniper rifles (i.e. not carge or Thale's) take 2 shots to down any decently fit medium suit, 3 for proto ones. Decently fit heavies take 4-5 shots to kill. This means one has to empty an entire clip to take down a heavy! You call this easy mode? You have got to be kidding. And if you use a tactical sniper, it's even worse.

The only sniper I would call "easy mode" is Thale's, because it outdamages even the charge sniper and has ridiculous scope magnification. You can literally aim people in the eye halfway across the map. However, Thale's sniper is a friggin' officer weapon, so I suppose it's meant to be OP.

I know that was big wording for you but what that means is that Caldari Sniper rifles should be the most powerful in the game, insanely accurate (no bullet drop) and high velocity (next to no travel time)

As for the rest of the dribble I'm going to dismiss it as the usual DUST buffoonery.

I agree that since the Caldari Sniper Rifle is rail based it should be near instant, highly accurate and powerful.

What it shouldn't have however is
1.little to no recoil that allows you to make follow up shots in less than a second.
2. A large magazine capacity for a weapon capable of such power
3. No charge time even though it operates just like a rail gun in every single way

If the listed items above were taken away along with the addition of a slight increase to Sniper Rail Rifle damage (along with a stun affect bonus maybe?) and more racial sniper variants that all have their advantages and disadvantages I think it would make DUST just a little bit more of a tolerable place.

I don't have much issue with the sniper rifle, the idea that once the racial variants are in the caldari ones will all charge is pretty cool. Thales in the redline however, it really is just a d!ck move

Once again another idiot that did not read the OP.
I present to you the DUST community everyone.

the only problem is the redline. I would have no problem with this if it wasn't for the fact most snipers are redline snipers.

it would be impossible to kill them.

You guys need to quit bagging on the red-line. It exists for the times when one team utterly dominates the other team. It gives the weaker team at least some option to regroup and fight back.

Removing the red-line would result in spawn-camping by the stronger team. Do you like the idea of waiting out the match timer in the MCC with the rest of your team while the red team waits below to slaughter you as you jump out one by one? Because some of your matches will be exactly that if the red-line is taken out.