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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:24:00 -
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There is the general feeling that sniping is way too easy within the DUST player-base (or at least the people that aren't yoloswag sniper 420 Q. scope mastaz ). This is to no surprise to me. The rail sniper rifles we have in this game are Caldari and anything Caldari in this game is easy mode, taking little to no thought to do well with due to the current nature of the game.
With that being said That's the way the Caldari fight, they take a very low risk route by fighting from afar and striking instantly and it make sense, it honestly does. All races have their own fighting style and that's one of the awesome and unique things about the EVE universe.
I agree that since the Caldari Sniper Rifle is rail based it should be near instant, highly accurate and powerful.
What it shouldn't have however is 1.little to no recoil that allows you to make follow up shots in less than a second. 2. A large magazine capacity for a weapon capable of such power 3. No charge time even though it operates just like a rail gun in every single way
If the listed items above were taken away along with the addition of a slight increase to Sniper Rail Rifle damage (along with a stun affect bonus maybe?) and more racial sniper variants that all have their advantages and disadvantages I think it would make DUST just a little bit more of a tolerable place.
I can only hope to think that CCP made the sniper rifles like this temporarily because of the lack of other racial variants. |
Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:38:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I think it's fine right now, but inconsistent.
Supposedly when we get precision rifles (minmatar sniper rifles), all the caldari ones will work like the charge sniper. I honestly feel like the Caldari Rifle holds too many rounds in a magazine for compared to the capability to the gun.
Although I'm going to agree with you in that having a universal charge time for all Sniper rifle would make them better. |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:54:00 -
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calvin b wrote:I love my sniper rifle. I just started to really build a silent killing machine. I mean I am really going hardcore ninja here. I use my proto suit and my Thale yes I said Thale sniper rifle and I go huntin wabbit. SHHHHHH be very very quite. Leave the weapon alone, what is wrong with players always wanting to change things. Leave it be unless it has a problem that prevents it from working like a glitch. If it works leave it the F alone and I must say it is only one of a few that works the correct way. I gave up my proto Heavy because of the glitches that is why I went sniper. question, how old are you? |
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Posted - 2013.08.12 23:57:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:I'm a sniper and I love to snipe. I love redline sniping if it is beneficial. Sometimes it can be. I move around where I can be useful and have been useful many times where just being another assault wouldn't have helped.
I'd like to see sniping nerfed so that only those who have skilled into it can benefit though.
Make it like an actual rifle for sniping (there is no such thing as a sniper rifle in RL) only a rifle that is good for long range shots and therefore gets adopted as a sniper rifle.
Make it single shot and then you have to reload.
Make it more powerful per shot.
Make the skills give the rifle its power and usefulness even more so than they do now.
Allow for better identification of specific targets so a squad leader can mark a target that is being especially tough and the sniper can do what a sniper's job is mainly for GÇö to take out specific, hard targets. I like you man +1 |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:03:00 -
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calvin b wrote: Old enough to drink young enough not to be collecting social security. Does this answer your question?
No smartass |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:32:00 -
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Xender17 wrote:This topic is so unbiased gtfo You just want to keep your easy mode weapon.
I'm not nerfing this weapon I'm saying that a sniper rifle should require more skill than it currently requires. I even said that it should get a damage increase in addition to the skill required.
Go play CoD if you want insta win rifles so much. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:49:00 -
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I'm not saying the weapon is OP. I'm saying the weapon is too easy to use. Like too many other weapons in this game. We need to start rewarding players based on their capacity and not just because they can spam a button.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2013.08.13 00:59:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:I think dropping the sniper rifles to one shot then reload is a bad idea. They're fairly weak as they are now imo. And I rarely snipe these days. And I rarely die to a sniper rifle unless I've already been tagged a few times by something else.
I suppose I would be okay with a bolt action sort of function but then my geek side says it's a sci-fi shooter so no. If it moves to a reload after every shot deal then those T5 rifles should be able to one shot high tanked proto heavies, headshots only. As well as body shot all other protos and drop them no problems. I'd be okay with that. Though that may just be me... I'm not thinking quite one shot a magazine but more like 3 rounds but not even that honestly. It's the small recoil that's one of the issues here. One shoting pro heavies with a headshots, I'm cool with that. however I don't think it should instantly body shot all high Hp prototype medium suits but pretty much render them weak as a twig. |
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Posted - 2013.08.13 01:05:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I'm not saying the weapon is OP. I'm saying the weapon is too easy to use. Like too many other weapons in this game. We need to start rewarding players based on their capacity and not just because they can spam a button.
have you even used it? If so, how many kills did you get and how helpful were you to your team? If you think its easy you're either an incredibly coordinated fps gamer or a moron, and I'm willing to bet it's not the former. I'm sick of seeing this judgement get thrown around like nobodies business, especially when the people who are doing it have strapped into a sniper suit once, maybe twice. Complaining about things like this is the reason why we can never have nice things Use it a damn lot get out of here ****.
Like a poster here mentioned earlier I want this weapon to be associated with skill. Not guys that are poor at this game It's easy to tell between the ones that are actually good with this weapon and saying it's fine and the people that are scared to lose the only weapon they can use without dying.
I could make several points with other weapons but this is a sniper rifle thread discussing the sniper rifle, not wanting to nerf it, not wanting to buff it. |
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Posted - 2013.10.06 14:40:00 -
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This is an old thread and as always the poor DUST community can't get it through their tiny minds that this isn't a rage thread.
If you check out some of my older threads as well when I used to post really constructive criticism of the game before I lost hope in CCP and the community you'll see that I'm in favor of toning down assault rifle magazines as well as have it be a magazine dependent game instead of just dumping your mag when you are low on ammunition.
There are too many "easy mode" weapons in this game but this thread was just addressing sniper rifles specifically.
If you have actually read through the entire post there's no way you should have gotten out of it that this was a rage post unless your dim. |
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Posted - 2013.10.06 15:15:00 -
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George Moros wrote:I really find it funny how every once and a while someone starts bashing DUST sniping as "easy mode" and "cowardly". These comments are usually accompanied by arguments about DUST snipers not having bullet drop, travel time, recoil and whatnot.
First of all, if you take into account the technology involved in railguns (even present day ones), you'll quickly realize that, at speeds those projectiles are fired, and typical sniper engagement distances, you actually can completely ignore bullet drop and travel time. They simply aren't a factor to consider.
Second, in most other shooters (not to mention RL), a sniper rifle will kill any infantry with a single bullet. In DUST, things are "slightly" different. Standard sniper rifles (i.e. not carge or Thale's) take 2 shots to down any decently fit medium suit, 3 for proto ones. Decently fit heavies take 4-5 shots to kill. This means one has to empty an entire clip to take down a heavy! You call this easy mode? You have got to be kidding. And if you use a tactical sniper, it's even worse.
The only sniper I would call "easy mode" is Thale's, because it outdamages even the charge sniper and has ridiculous scope magnification. You can literally aim people in the eye halfway across the map. However, Thale's sniper is a friggin' officer weapon, so I suppose it's meant to be OP. Once again another idiot that did not read the OP. I present to you the DUST community everyone. |
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