Latency would explain a lot, including the current inability to pin this down with my own testing.

There was an additional aspect raised which I'd love to get your feedback on. That being how the damage is applied.

If someone scores a direct hit with a weapon that has both direct and AoE damage do both values apply?

If the sphere covers the head of the target do head shot efficiency modifiers apply, with the same question for splash being done to the back arc.
More specifically it is verifiable in game that splash damage does get the bonus to efficiency when applied to the "sweet spot" areas, at least against vehicles (Infantry is harder to test this on due to relative HP constraints). So having established that this is currently happening in game is this working as intended and does it apply to infantry as well?

These aspects, combined with latency, could be causing the issues seen with some of the AoE weaponry such as the MD and FG, while also explaining why users of them aren't generally seeing the extra performance which is frequently described.

Any information/clarification you could provide here would be greatly appreciated, and thank you once again for your continued participation in this thread.

Cheers,
Cross

Can you confirm that nova knife hit detection is fixed? :3

All hit detection should be a bit better in 1.4 due to the fixes/improvements we've made. I am hoping the update we make in 1.5 will be more significant (since it's larger).

We are planning to add the same aim assist system melee uses to the Nova Knives which should ensure more accurate strikes. Not sure when we're going to squeeze that in yet though.

Any comment on this?

http://blindmanmoon.blogspot.com/2013/07/coding-and-its-relation-to.html

TL;DR - Resource costs are rounded off per module due to the fitting screen not having a decimal system, often times costing more PG/CPU than they should due to the rounding system.

Not right now. One thing at a time :-)

just did a quick test with the standard mass driver Vs a militia heavy. Splash seems to be working correctly. I got an exact -20% Vs shields.

One thing that springs to mind is whether in any of your tests (particulalry with the forge) did you cross over from shields in to armour. In that case the damage gets split and the relevant modifiers applied to each chunk. That could give confusing results in a test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9t2fqgsGM&feature=youtu.be

Watch the video please.

except infantry....

Ok dokey...

In the case of a direct hit only direct damage is applied to the target. Splash is not applied to the target but will be applied to any others that happen to be in range.

A headshot modifier would apply if the explosion hits your head. A series of checks are done to different body parts and splash is applied to the first one it hits (typically not the head). I would need to check on vehicles, I'm not sure how splash is applied to the regular body Vs weak spots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9t2fqgsGM&feature=youtu.be

Watch the video please.

just did a quick test with the standard mass driver Vs a militia heavy. Splash seems to be working correctly. I got an exact -20% Vs shields.

One thing that springs to mind is whether in any of your tests (particulalry with the forge) did you cross over from shields in to armour. In that case the damage gets split and the relevant modifiers applied to each chunk. That could give confusing results in a test.

Yeah, I've not been able to replicate it, I was doing essentially the same thing. My debug output is correct. I'll get QA to have a more extended look to see if they can replicate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO9t2fqgsGM&feature=youtu.be

Watch the video please.

Interesting video. Something I'd like to point out after watching is is the range at which the splash starts to hit.

The first hit, the 102 pts damage, is clearly just under 2m from the target's foot. I'm curious what MD you were using, and what skills you have in it.

It seems to me that you should be doing damage sooner than that, but without knowing the details, it's hard to tell.

The last miss seems to be just over 3m, so I'm thinking the splash area isn't as large as is stated on the stats.

You may have mentioned it but I didn't find the reference. Does splash damage ever fall off for any weapon or does it always clip at the splash radius? Are there any plans to have it taper off? There have been some comments to the effect that decreasing damage over distance would be a better way to do splash damage.

Splash damage does have a fall off.

I've asked our QA to look in to this and see if they can track down any problems.

Splash damage does have a fall off.

I've asked our QA to look in to this and see if they can track down any problems.

We are going to be taking a look at splash damage to see if there is anything fishy going on with it. However I can confirm it is a sphere.