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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1193
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:08:00 -
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Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
0uter.Heaven EoN.
299
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:12:00 -
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I really don't think it's completely the logibro's fault for not logibro-ing, it's sort of how the game is designed/balanced at the moment.
For instance, say you go into a 4 v 4 fight, one side has 3 people shooting and one person repping, and the other side has 4 people shooting. With relatively even skill, I'm pretty sure the 4 people shooting is gonna win almost every time. So logi's have to get used to shooting first, then doing logi/support stuff second. |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
330
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:14:00 -
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Hey man, I try. I really do. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
@CCP_Logibro |
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Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:15:00 -
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Aaaaand some people on here didn't exactly skill into certain Logi suits to Logi... From what I've heard anyway... |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
690
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:16:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do.
do or do not, there is no try |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
363
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:17:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. I still repair and revive people and carry just an SMG for personal defense only. I sometimes even get lovemails for doing it, I assume that is because it isnt done very often. |
Flax Ribbon
The Southern Legion
11
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:17:00 -
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I'm so logi, ive gone from gallente logi to amarr logi so i can carry a swarm launcher :P |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
363
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:19:00 -
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Flax Ribbon wrote:I'm so logi, ive gone from gallente logi to amarr logi so i can carry a swarm launcher :P I have done this before it was cool |
Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
117
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:20:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do.
You can perhaps be forgiven.... Although I still haven't seen any of those nanites you are supposedly distributing... |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
580
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:20:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up.
I want to bring my rep and injector. I really do. But in the PC match they tell me to be able to put down 6 uplinks and 2 hives. |
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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
450
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:22:00 -
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I remember when running logi with a MD was the noble role of the support squad mate...... now people think I do it for the higher potential HP and Splash damage. |
Royce Kronos
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
103
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:23:00 -
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It's not that people stopped logi-ing, it's because it's more effective to have an extra gun.
With triage nanohives, you can rep and have a gun on the field at the same time. Nanohives and drop up-links are self explanatory. Additionally, with the proliferation of Mass Drivers, revives are increasingly un-doable.
You're logibro's aren't gone, they're just waiting for some good logi and passive bonuses.
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Sean Mcbride
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
14
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:24:00 -
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A logi that does his job always gets my thanks as a heavy because they keep me going and I tell them stay behind me and we will push through I think Logi's do not get enough credit they have become rare.......
Now days seeing a rep tool is almost a novelty I run a commando suit as a Logi which is actually fun as hell I may not be able to carry all the toys they do but always have fun and get few kills they biggest thing is if you see the gold around your screen don't run off take a knee behind cover and let them do their jobs. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1093
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:25:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up.
There was a time when having a backpack on your suit meant something. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1003
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:25:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up.
Hard to do our jobs when we get destroyed in battle extremely fast due to lower HP and the bright yellow paint job doesn't help one bit, and then when the people we are protecting die were screwed since we can't even run away fast enough or pack enough firepower to revive you. Maybe you should do your job better that way I can do mine. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:27:00 -
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Sean Mcbride wrote:A logi that does his job always gets my thanks as a heavy because they keep me going and I tell them stay behind me and we will push through I think Logi's do not get enough credit they have become rare.......
Now days seeing a rep tool is almost a novelty I run a commando suit as a Logi which is actually fun as hell I may not be able to carry all the toys they do but always have fun and get few kills they biggest thing is if you see the gold around your screen don't run off take a knee behind cover and let them do their jobs. ^^^this
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:28:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. There was a time when having a backpack on your suit meant something. I thought the backpack is actually your shield generator |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1003
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:31:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. There was a time when having a backpack on your suit meant something. I thought the backpack is actually your shield generator
And Gallentes don't even have a backpack. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
295
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:32:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do. do or do not, there is no try
Only the Sith deal in absolutes. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:34:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. There was a time when having a backpack on your suit meant something. I thought the backpack is actually your shield generator And Gallentes don't even have a backpack. and they dont even have shields |
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Criteria Shipment
Baynaer Space Command The Ditanian Alliance
59
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:41:00 -
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XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. There was a time when having a backpack on your suit meant something. I thought the backpack is actually your shield generator And Gallentes don't even have a backpack. and they dont even have shields This is getting salty |
Flax Ribbon
The Southern Legion
11
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:44:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Flax Ribbon wrote:I'm so logi, ive gone from gallente logi to amarr logi so i can carry a swarm launcher :P I have done this before it was cool
i was amarr logi before the respec... your point? |
Deacon Obvious
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:51:00 -
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When I feel like I'm starting to lose sight and go gank-centric, I force myself to burn through 20 suits with an equipment load-out of Injector, Repper, and Active Scan, with a basic AR. Brings me back to what I enjoy about the Logibro way. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2848
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:05:00 -
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I'll start being a logibro again when the assaults stop being stupid.
I'm not following your dumb ass into the middle of the street when there's great cover where I am. |
Skyhound Solbrave
Rough Riders..
177
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'll start being a logibro again when the assaults stop being stupid.
I'm not following your dumb ass into the middle of the street when there's great cover where I am.
This, a million times this.
As an Amarr logi, its not my fault that I can shoot better than you either. |
Amarrian Desperado
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:11:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'll start being a logibro again when the assaults stop being stupid.
I'm not following your dumb ass into the middle of the street when there's great cover where I am.
But... the meatshields ARE cover
temporary cover |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
54
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:14:00 -
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First off, remember that at least 1/2 the people you see on the warbarge before the match never planned to use those suits for their intended purpose.
As for me, I want to, I really do! My KDR is crap and I only get maybe 5-10 kills a game because I spend most of the match dropping hives/links. It's just tough to justify spending the extra CPU/PG on a repper when I can:
A) Get the job done just as well with an armor hive B) Get more WP (aka bang for my buck) with uplinks, and C) Do no actual repairing and then get killed half the time I'm trying to use the damn thing because suddenly my rotund buddy stops taking damage because everyone sees the yellow "shoot me" sign. The stupid wheel makes it impossible to switch out fast enough!
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
69
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:14:00 -
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Right because my spawns, nanos, and LAV removing prox mines do nothing to help the team win.... If I run proto I'll even stick you with an 80% needle as well. |
Drevenger
DUST University Ivy League
11
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:25:00 -
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Always been a real bro since 1.3
The nerf of Cal logi made me realised theres no point in pub to put a repair tool on a 150k isk suit to rep headless chickens so they can live like 2.3 second longer or steal my lav. Plus theres not enough cpu anymore so .. deal with it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1196
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:30:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. Hard to do our jobs when we get destroyed in battle extremely fast due to lower HP and the bright yellow paint job doesn't help one bit, and then when the people we are protecting die were screwed since we can't even run away fast enough or pack enough firepower to clear out enemies to revive you. Maybe you should do your job better that way I can do mine.
Yea, we saw what you did when you were given additional HP. You said "screw everybody else, im'a run my own program!"
Don't get it twisted, only reason you fail at logi now is because you've spent so long being a goddamn individual. |
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1008
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:33:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. Hard to do our jobs when we get destroyed in battle extremely fast due to lower HP and the bright yellow paint job doesn't help one bit, and then when the people we are protecting die were screwed since we can't even run away fast enough or pack enough firepower to clear out enemies to revive you. Maybe you should do your job better that way I can do mine. Yea, we saw what you did when you were given additional HP. You said "screw everybody else, im'a run my own program!" Don't get it twisted, only reason you fail at logi now is because you've spent so long being a goddamn individual.
Im a Gallente logistics :I |
DS 10
Pure Innocence. EoN.
669
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:39:00 -
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Being a Logi doesn't mean you have to run reps. My fittings are almost all Injector, Hives, Uplinks. Uplinks gain me at least 500 WP in Dom games. Hives keep my M1s stocked as well as my teammates. Injector picks up teammates when enemies murder taxi. Plus, I can still be a decent threat most of the game instead of being stuck chasing fatties that are too stubborn to run rep modules. I get more WP, can help the team more with weapon and equipment support, and its overall more fun for me.
When you see 47 uplinks on the objective in Dom and nanohives scattered all over, understand that those two things will win you the game. Wins > stats. |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
223
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Posted - 2013.08.09 17:42:00 -
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this thread is bacon |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
73
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:01:00 -
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Logis not doing their jobs? Guess it was all you assaults and scouts who put down those dozens of uplinks and nanohives painting a picture of blue visible from space.
And after the nerf, I need to use my Gal Adv Logi to put down the uplinks since I'm short on CPU on my Cal Logi. Not to mention that most people would have apoplexy at a Cal Logi laying down uplinks and nanohives... |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
205
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:11:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. Ill remember your name when we are on the battle field together.
"I need some reps" "Sorry, Logibros apparently don't do our job. It's not like I spec'd into Logi to HELP people or anything." |
Luke Vetri
D3ath D3alers
114
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:16:00 -
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I'm a Cal Logi, sure I had to drop my Dovall to maintain decent links, hives and a rep tool, but I never should have been able to fit it to start with, now if I could just survive a single M1 blast I might still be useful. |
S Park Finner
Guardian Solutions
201
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:17:00 -
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Ever since I took an arrow to the knee all I can do is Logistics.
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Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
205
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:25:00 -
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S Park Finner wrote:Ever since I took an arrow to the knee all I can do is Logistics. Fun fact: Taking an arrow to the knee means getting married <3 |
Vin Mora
Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. Interstellar Conquest Enterprises
92
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:31:00 -
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Royce Kronos wrote:It's not that people stopped logi-ing, it's because it's more effective to have an extra gun. With triage nanohives, you can rep and have a gun on the field at the same time. Nanohives and drop up-links are self explanatory. Additionally, with the proliferation of Mass Drivers, revives are increasingly un-doable. You're logibro's aren't gone, they're just waiting for some good logi and passive bonuses. Says the one Logi in my corp that is slowly going over to the 'other' side.
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BL4CKST4R
WarRavens League of Infamy
1011
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:40:00 -
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Luke Vetri wrote:I'm a Cal Logi, sure I had to drop my Dovall to maintain decent links, hives and a rep tool, but I never should have been able to fit it to start with, now if I could just survive a single M1 blast I might still be useful.
If your Caldari Logi can't survive an M1 your shield tanking the wrong way :I |
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
74
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:42:00 -
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I don't really understand why explosives are non-revivable. You'd think getting riddled with bullets or being hit by a vehicle moving at 100 km/hr would kill you just as dead as a grenade, yet you can still be picked up from those.... |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
108
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:46:00 -
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Here's how I see it. Nobody let's me do my job besides almost dead people and heavies (I can catch up to them). But I use a MD, a ASCR, or an SMG when I'm logi. You can't blame me for getting the first 3 kills just because I had no help and everyone's faster than me. I cannot keep up with the assault class. Forgive me for killing people. I only be a logi when I can. But when I can't, I'm just an assault with no sidearm and a repair tool. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
20
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:49:00 -
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What is a logi's job? Support last time i checked,this can be done in other ways then healing.Just cause the community want logis to do one thing doesn't make it their job.Every suit other than heavy can carry repair tool,nanohives etc its not logi only.If you want health you have options used them because i spent my sp and isk on my suit and equipment.You want me to play your way start giving isk for all the suits i loose cause you can't kill. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
108
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Posted - 2013.08.09 18:55:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Luke Vetri wrote:I'm a Cal Logi, sure I had to drop my Dovall to maintain decent links, hives and a rep tool, but I never should have been able to fit it to start with, now if I could just survive a single M1 blast I might still be useful. If your Caldari Logi can't survive an M1 your shield tanking the wrong way :I Not everyone is proto... |
Sergent Gumball
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:06:00 -
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I'm a Caldari logi. It is hard for me to be a logi for my squad and team due to the fact that they run into battle, and start shooting the place up. I have never tried to go all out assault in my logi suits. For the past several days i have been trying different types of mods to maximize my suits potential. LOGIBROS ARE STILL HERE! We havent gone anywhere. We just need assault guys to slow down and for heavy's to stop yanking us into "hot spots" where we get mowed down because we are not invincible! |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
869
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:13:00 -
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How much logi work needs to be done in a pub match where one side stops fighting at the first sign of resistance? |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
75
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:16:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:How much logi work needs to be done in a pub match where one side stops fighting at the first sign of resistance?
Plenty! You need a line of drop uplinks in case one of your teammates dies in the redline, and of course, plenty of nanohives to keep the redline going... Also to replenish AV grenades when the enemy resorts to murder taxi'ing....
Sigh. The job of the logi bro never ends until all clones are gone. |
TunRa
The Vanguardians
31
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:25:00 -
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On my tanker I used my Limbus to actualy rep tanks and infantry...I know right... |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
457
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:29:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I'll start being a logibro again when the assaults stop being stupid.
I'm not following your dumb ass into the middle of the street when there's great cover where I am.
Bless You
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Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
55
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:29:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do. Don't worry, we understand. You're not like the rest of those fair-weather logis and slayer logis. You're our honest to goodness bumblebee. |
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Promethius Franklin
DUST University Ivy League
157
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:31:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:First off, remember that at least 1/2 the people you see on the warbarge before the match never planned to use those suits for their intended purpose.
As for me, I want to, I really do! My KDR is crap and I only get maybe 5-10 kills a game because I spend most of the match dropping hives/links. It's just tough to justify spending the extra CPU/PG on a repper when I can:
A) Get the job done just as well with an armor hive B) Get more WP (aka bang for my buck) with uplinks, and C) Do no actual repairing and then get killed half the time I'm trying to use the damn thing because suddenly my rotund buddy stops taking damage because everyone sees the yellow "shoot me" sign. The stupid wheel makes it impossible to switch out fast enough! Don't know how it is on KB/M but on the DS3 you can just tap the weapon switch button to get your weapon back out. |
Justine Oma-Lyndel
Raven Accord Black Core Alliance
18
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:36:00 -
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Here's a list of things reg players NEED to do for Logis to be able to be a bit more effective.
-VOIP in team channel -when you see those yellow suits and you know damn well your armor has 1 less hp or more wait for him, he/she is most likely trying to catch up to you. -Stay with your squad! -Heavies when being healed take cover, else I'm just going to keep reviving you till you learn. it gives me more wp and helps me try to keep your suit up so YOU can defend me! -When you need a heal and have asked for one through VOIP.. don't be the idiot that says "hey you heal me i'm over here" Tell me where you are and who you're talking to -Move infront of your logis! I'm not capable of taking on a squad of 2 or more, that's your job.
Several times i will run an assault suit with a rep tool and heal people near objectives that have forgotten to heal up at a supply depot. Logis try out the support weapons like MD, Pcan, Flaylock, Flux. Your offensive role is similar to that of a heavies, to weaken enemy defenses for the frontliners all the while increasing your teams defenses. Logi is a tricky role to fill, the good ones can be found doing 0-10 with 2-3k wp, the ones that perform offensively without playing their role do usually less than 1k wp.
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Zero Notion
Red Star Jr. EoN.
175
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:49:00 -
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Justine Oma-Lyndel wrote: Logi is a tricky role to fill, the good ones can be found doing 0-10 with 2-3k wp, the ones that perform offensively without playing their role do usually less than 1k wp.
Logis that can do both can get even more!
Personally, I run my logistics with nothing but CQC weaponry; Shotgun/SMG or Shotgun/Pistol because it forces me to stick with the team or if I am solo, I'm able to;
Clear out nests, taking down redberries, hacking CRU's, flanking uplinks I may not be able to reach and dropping my own so my team can spawn behind them, move into enemy territory to flux uplinks and put pressure on opponents, destroying enemy nano's and so on.
I drop rep nanos for snipers, for heavies and when defending a point I'll setup a triage station with nanos and use my rep tool from cover; they just have to come to me. If the point is in danger, I can provide backup with shotgun blasts to the dome.
I'm a 'Logistics', not a medic. My role is to think, plan and provide support; even if that 'support' means wrecking opponents. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
584
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Posted - 2013.08.09 19:51:00 -
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I'm one of the best logistics players in the game.
I'm just tired of being the only logistics player on the team, and the only forge, and the only hacker, and the only objective defender.
It's as if everyone on the team is an Assault with a nanohive and they just go from one objective to the next killing as many people as they can. But when a tank comes out and everyone starts using their militia AV gear, I have to be the one to destroy it with my forge. When we have no objectives, I have to be the one to drive across the map and hack the other objectives besides the next closest one.
Your dedicated logistics player is just always busy with other things. At least I am. Also, if you're not using an AR or another ammo depleting weapon (like the mass driver) carry a nanite injector or repair tool instead of a nanohive. And if you do decide to carry something, use it. |
Tek Hound
Death In Xcess Corporation
21
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:01:00 -
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Zero Notion wrote:Justine Oma-Lyndel wrote: Logi is a tricky role to fill, the good ones can be found doing 0-10 with 2-3k wp, the ones that perform offensively without playing their role do usually less than 1k wp.
I'm a 'Logistics', not a medic. My role is to think, plan and provide support; even if that 'support' means wrecking opponents.
This |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1198
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:06:00 -
[56] - Quote
BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. Hard to do our jobs when we get destroyed in battle extremely fast due to lower HP and the bright yellow paint job doesn't help one bit, and then when the people we are protecting die were screwed since we can't even run away fast enough or pack enough firepower to clear out enemies to revive you. Maybe you should do your job better that way I can do mine. Yea, we saw what you did when you were given additional HP. You said "screw everybody else, im'a run my own program!" Don't get it twisted, only reason you fail at logi now is because you've spent so long being a goddamn individual. Im a Gallente logistics :I
Well the Gallente are French, so that explains a lot. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
598
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
There's more to it than just Logibros and Assault wannabes. I scout-Logi reasonably often. Hives and DUs in choice locations, one of each in both an overlooking fallback and a secure-ish area closer to the objective(s). Active Scanner for team intel and to better discover opportunities to speedhack a terminal then get out of there. In a push I'll be the one looking for the opening to get a quick hack in while everyone else makes with the shooting of the bullets. It's a logistics role even if it's more about taking independent action than hugging teammates.
Medi-Logi when you don't consistently run with heavies or armour-tankers you can vouch for I couldn't really advise. If you need something done properly you do it yourself. Being a force multiplier for a specific type of force additive requires that they both be there and are actually a value worth multiplying. Often with randoms you won't be boosting your force any more as a multiplier than you would just being an additive.
If you do consistently run with people you have faith in that changes completely. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1576
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
The problem with logi's comes down to move speed and hp imo.
Give me a ck.1 variant that swaps the light weapon for sidearm and give me the same base start hp as a basic suit with 0.2 more move speed and ill run around and logi all day. Even sneak in a few kills with an ishukone assault smg while im at it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1199
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:10:00 -
[59] - Quote
Jaqen Morghalis wrote:calisk galern wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do. do or do not, there is no try Only the Sith deal in absolutes.
Mind blown. |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
251
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Posted - 2013.08.09 20:13:00 -
[60] - Quote
Boooo to OP. :hit dislike button:
Been true Logi since day one with over 16m Skill Points my AR is still sitting at level 3 Proficiency and level 3 Sharpshooter. The only other weapon I am skilled into is Swarm Launcher at level 3.
I carry Repair Tool and Nano Injector ALWAYS and I repair all teammates whether they are in my corp or not and whether I am still getting War Points or not. I always try and clear before I revive and I alternate between Nanohives and Drop Uplinks as needed.
Call me...or don't call me...whatever you want. But I will not feel bad. |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
872
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Posted - 2013.08.10 02:39:00 -
[61] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:The problem with logi's comes down to move speed and hp imo.
Give me a ck.1 variant that swaps the light weapon for sidearm and give me the same base start hp as a basic suit with 0.2 more move speed and ill run around and logi all day. Even sneak in a few kills with an ishukone assault smg while im at it.
The speed of the logi suit and the expense of the equipment has made me skill into a min assault. |
Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2008
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:31:00 -
[62] - Quote
*coughs*
I might repair more people if they didn't run away from me. I might revive more people if they didn't instantly suicide. I might resupply more people if they didn't run in large circles around my nanohives I might give more people a place to spawn if they didn't completely ignore my drop uplinks.
Moral of my QQ story? Maybe there would be more logibros if logibros weren't all ignored. |
Cobra CLUTCH79
OVERLORDS OF THE ONI SERPENT
27
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:40:00 -
[63] - Quote
I was doing the bumblebee thing for a while but the guy i would rep would lead me to my death more often than not so now i'll stick em with a needle then their on their own and im off to sniping yup evolved into a hornet. |
Devils advocate03
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.08.10 03:58:00 -
[64] - Quote
Since the closed beta I have been a medic. I do have an infinite load out as a medic in order to revive and heal people. Though its pretty dumb when the people I try and heal run away with only half of their shield and armor regenerated, and the people I do revive are stupid enough to run right back into the line of fire without giving me a chance to repair them But it does vary from battle to battle, and I do usually find a safe spot where I stay and people can come and get repaired during heavy traffic battle. |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
262
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do.
how about a logi bonus for the logi's? that's what i'd think was a pretty high priority. |
Crimson Judgment
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
85
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:05:00 -
[66] - Quote
careful what you wish for if you see more logibro's that means you'll see more militia/terrible logibro's/medics like these guys lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQTvTd650fs&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL3tRBEVW0hiD_PUOZqB5n_wvKPHhW5r58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNfDUUMGRCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmGEs96Os0g |
Spycrab Potato
Hold-Your-Fire
212
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:18:00 -
[67] - Quote
Logi Bro wrote:*coughs*
I might repair more people if they didn't run away from me. I might revive more people if they didn't instantly suicide. I might resupply more people if they didn't run in large circles around my nanohives I might give more people a place to spawn if they didn't completely ignore my drop uplinks.
Moral of my QQ story? Maybe there would be more logibros if logibros weren't all ignored. They ignore us until they need reps or ammo. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1207
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:19:00 -
[68] - Quote
The hell you bums want, a medal?
Do your jobs and quit yer yappin'. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
622
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:41:00 -
[69] - Quote
i carry three logis in my low slots. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
111
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Posted - 2013.08.10 04:59:00 -
[70] - Quote
Justine Oma-Lyndel wrote:Here's a list of things reg players NEED to do for Logis to be able to be a bit more effective.
-VOIP in team channel -when you see those yellow suits and you know damn well your armor has 1 less hp or more wait for him, he/she is most likely trying to catch up to you. -Stay with your squad! -Heavies when being healed take cover, else I'm just going to keep reviving you till you learn. it gives me more wp and helps me try to keep your suit up so YOU can defend me! -When you need a heal and have asked for one through VOIP.. don't be the idiot that says "hey you heal me i'm over here" Tell me where you are and who you're talking to -Move infront of your logis! I'm not capable of taking on a squad of 2 or more, that's your job.
Several times i will run an assault suit with a rep tool and heal people near objectives that have forgotten to heal up at a supply depot. Logis try out the support weapons like MD, Pcan, Flaylock, Flux. Your offensive role is similar to that of a heavies, to weaken enemy defenses for the frontliners all the while increasing your teams defenses. Logi is a tricky role to fill, the good ones can be found doing 0-10 with 2-3k wp, the ones that perform offensively without playing their role do usually less than 1k wp.
EXACTLY! i try to chase those assaults with low health, but they ignore me :/ most likely don't see me but meh |
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Dj grammer
Red Star. EoN.
27
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:10:00 -
[71] - Quote
CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do. Fellow Prototype Minmatar LogiBro, trust me I know that feel. We really do try. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
623
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Posted - 2013.08.10 05:18:00 -
[72] - Quote
Dj grammer wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Hey man, I try. I really do. Fellow Prototype Minmatar LogiBro, trust me I know that feel. We really do try.
do you try hard? |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1098
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:50:00 -
[73] - Quote
BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. Hard to do our jobs when we get destroyed in battle extremely fast due to lower HP and the bright yellow paint job doesn't help one bit, and then when the people we are protecting die were screwed since we can't even run away fast enough or pack enough firepower to clear out enemies to revive you. Maybe you should do your job better that way I can do mine.
It's not a logi's responsibility to "clear out enemies". The ability to do that was the problem in the first place. If you can't survive the revive attempt now that you have lower HP, why the hell would you try and revive someone before? The worst crime a logi can commit is reviving someone into a hail of gunfire. Apparently you don't think this is a problem. |
XxArrowxX
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
4
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Posted - 2013.08.10 09:54:00 -
[74] - Quote
I'm a logi i think i get 1500 WP alone from rep,revive,nano,and drop uplinks 2,300 in good matches |
RKKR
The Southern Legion
308
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Posted - 2013.08.10 10:00:00 -
[75] - Quote
This is like making a thread about why we all stopped calling you assaults because you are all scared about leaving the MMC. |
Billi Gene
The Southern Legion
225
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Posted - 2013.08.10 10:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
you know its an MMO when you hit the battlefields and all you can hear is a DPS class screaming,
"HEALZZZZZ, WARZ MAI HEALZZZZZ"
fave logi fits:
Tower Camper: great for those losing matches, don't forget to trap your tower.... NT sniper Proximity mines Uplinks Hives
The Hitchhiker: "All it needs is a mini-skirt..." Any Rifle/MD Flux Nades Proximity Mines Remote Explosives Nanohives
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Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
313
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Posted - 2013.08.10 11:03:00 -
[77] - Quote
When I play the game hard and fast in my scout suit, it is always amazing getting repped and waiting for the revive. Many thanks. I'm skilling in being a scout/logi. I got lvl 3 injector. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1430
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:14:00 -
[78] - Quote
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up.
- Rep Tool still WP capped with broken WP scaling on top of that
- Needles only recently fixed and still have an excessively long animation making them rarely useable
- Uplinks bugged and can be seen everywhere, only use to to spam them and even then spawns risk being camped
- Nanohives massively nerfed and still WP capped
- Prox mines are a joke 9/10 of the time
- Active Scanner has yet to be given its WP awards
- REs ---- Would you feel more supported if more Logibros ran REs?
I am a support Logi, I focus most of my time and SP on support, but there are some major issues with the way equipment is handled currently and it makes support more problimatic than it should be.
Combine the above with the number of assault players so skilled into the Cal Logi suit just to get its former shield extender bonus and there are now more "I've never actually been a Logi" players in Logi suits than there are support Logi still willing and able to play the role.
0.02 ISK Cross |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1430
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:28:00 -
[79] - Quote
ZDub 303 wrote:The problem with logi's comes down to move speed and hp imo.
This is true, both of those factors greatly diminish overall survival of any Merc in a Logi suit... and that was before CCP nerfed the eHP on all Logi suits due to the hate towards the Cal Logi skill buff
But for some reason there are a lot of players in this game who think that a Logi should be slower, have weaker eHP, have a lower dps potential and yet still somehow be present in combat zones with exactly the piece of equipment they desire at the right time... oh and know which one they want without having them on comms to actually call out what they're looking for
All I can say is thank the Jovians for organized squads. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1430
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:35:00 -
[80] - Quote
BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. Hard to do our jobs when we get destroyed in battle extremely fast due to lower HP and the bright yellow paint job doesn't help one bit, and then when the people we are protecting die were screwed since we can't even run away fast enough or pack enough firepower to clear out enemies to revive you. Maybe you should do your job better that way I can do mine. Yea, we saw what you did when you were given additional HP. You said "screw everybody else, im'a run my own program!" Don't get it twisted, only reason you fail at logi now is because you've spent so long being a goddamn individual. Im a Gallente logistics :I
It's amazing, even after more than one Dev blog and several threadnoughts in both Gen and Feed sections people still suffer from the misconception that all Logi = Cal Logi with the racial buff and stacked extenders.
/shakes head
Besides which assuming that all the guys in the yellow Cal suits running the TAR with contact nades are actually Logis who've somehow gone "power made" because of the HP and thus started playing that way is just silly. Those guys are/were assault players who picked up the Cal suit with no intention of ever doing Logi work. They saw the numbers on that racial buff and made it the new assault, which wouldn't have even worked as well as it did if not for the rather OP weapons most frequently used and the over nerf on the LR taking one of the viable counters to a high shield build effectively out of the game meta.
Himiko Kuronaga, you're either trolling or simply have no effective knowledge of what mechanically goes into playing a support role within D514.
0.02 ISK Cross |
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MoonEagle A
ShootBreakStab
31
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:47:00 -
[81] - Quote
Obviously you have never met me. |
Jathniel
G I A N T EoN.
764
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Posted - 2013.08.10 15:52:00 -
[82] - Quote
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cause you stopped doing your damned jobs since Uprising.
Terrible Logis and you should all feel bad. I hope the assaults beat you up. There was a time when having a backpack on your suit meant something. I thought the backpack is actually your shield generator And Gallentes don't even have a backpack. and they dont even have shields
so much for the Gallente "putting a premium on human life". |
Sladen Faust
XCUTI0N
3
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Posted - 2013.08.10 16:34:00 -
[83] - Quote
Tek Hound wrote:Zero Notion wrote:Justine Oma-Lyndel wrote: Logi is a tricky role to fill, the good ones can be found doing 0-10 with 2-3k wp, the ones that perform offensively without playing their role do usually less than 1k wp.
I'm a 'Logistics', not a medic. My role is to think, plan and provide support; even if that 'support' means wrecking opponents. This
I completely agree. I run an ADV Cal Logi (still manage to fit decent gear with some creative fittings) and at times i find myself yelling at my squad mates to back off as the are about to die (some assaults get lost in the moment and we need to reel them back in). In a way we are the secret squad leads advising and maintaining the squad alive and the TEAM supplied with the necessary advantages need for the win. if i see you go down I will 'needle you and at times try to shield you while repping. |
Azure-Winged Sprite
Better Hide R Die
0
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:05:00 -
[84] - Quote
I'm a Gal Logi (mostly Advanced) who runs with Nanohives, Nanite Injectors and Drop Uplinks. Its too rare to find people to rep, and since I'm a better shot than most blue-dots I can't spend time repping them as they miss the enemy ten feet in front of them. I am far more effective running with this equipment than trying to use a Repair Tool.
Yes, I will go after people who are downed and get them back up with 80% armor. I'll drop Nanohives wherever I can find a good spot for one (choke-point, where someone is suppressing the enemy, etc). Uplinks go in hiding spots as close to the fight as its safe to.
And I saw someone say it already: Cal Logis were rarely logis this patch in the first place, but by no means are they the only logis out there. Yes, I know there were some real Cal logis (have a few in my corp), but most were just Assault players taking advantage of the bonuses and not being logis at all. Even now, if I see a Cal Logi in-game I still think he'll be useless at his role, just going for kills (kinda like running from Shotguns, Lasers and Flaylocks...). Gal and Min logis, on the other hand, usually will at least try to be logis (I have a hard time picking Amarr logis from Amarr assault players, and rarely see either in the first place...) since they specced into those suits to be logis.
But yes, most blue-dots are, well, stupid. Randoms are the worst, but I have had people in well-known corps act like them as well, ignoring the Uplinks close to the letters, not getting ammo/reps from a hive, bleeding out just before I get to them (even after calling for help)...
EDIT: Oops, posted on my Scout account...yeah, if you see this character don't expect it to be a logi |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1585
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:16:00 -
[85] - Quote
In pubs I run Duvolle, M1 Locus, Ishukone Gauge Nanohives, Wiyrkomi Injector, and BDR-8 rep tool on my Caldari Logi. I routinely get 10+ kills per game.
What am I? Logibro or Logissault? |
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