Give it a overheat, about every 2 shots ,it overheats for 8 seconds.... Also remove the proficiency skill, it already does a crap ton of damage, it dont need no moe... Also reduce damage by a tad and increase assault forgegun charge to 3 seconds.
pretty hard nerf.... But dis shizzz be OP as fkkkkkk

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Why would anyone use an assault forgegun then?

Auto-firing is enough of a downside.

No

Give it a overheat, about every 2 shots ,it overheats for 8 seconds.... Also remove the proficiency skill, it already does a crap ton of damage, it dont need no moe... Also reduce damage by a tad and increase assault forgegun charge to 3 seconds.
pretty hard nerf.... But dis shizzz be OP as fkkkkkk

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I'm sorry you spec'd into a weapon that is so versatile that you can't actually handle every situation.

Please have a tissue.

God no, the only, I repeat only thing that needs fiddling with on the AFG is its charge up time, what it is now is much better than it used to be. If anything should be changed on that weapon it's that.

so its ok for it to do 2500+ with a 2 dmg mods and 300 splash damage....

Give it a overheat, about every 2 shots ,it overheats for 8 seconds.... Also remove the proficiency skill, it already does a crap ton of damage, it dont need no moe... Also reduce damage by a tad and increase assault forgegun charge to 3 seconds.
pretty hard nerf.... But dis shizzz be OP as fkkkkkk

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so its ok for it to do 2500+ with a 2 dmg mods and 300 splash damage....

so its ok for it to do 2500+ with a 2 dmg mods and 300 splash damage....

Let me guess - Someone touched you with a forge, and since you're a pro, it's OP and needs a nerf.

I've taken out plenty of forge gunners with my LR. Get a bit of high ground and you're golden. But, of course, this might go against your gameplay style, so let's make everything work around your AR.

way to guess what im skilled into, - btw ur totally wrong, you'll know its OP when it shreads your expensive tank into pieces of dust in 5 seconds, you'll know its OP, when you get 1 hit by this btch on a pilliar and you have a lot of ehp, you'll know its OP when your tank has 40% resistance and you get hit with 2000 damage, you will know it is OP when your whole team is fke up by 1 forgeunner, You will know it is OP when this btch can kill you with splash damage in 4 seconds, would you like me to go on?

It's a forge gun, it's supposed to do high damage, the issue comes with it's rate of fire where it's putting out a ridiculous amount of shots in a short time, the current charge up time on it is somewhere between 2-2.5 seconds if I remember right, it used to be with maxed skills 1.8 seconds charge up time, they were ridiculously OP back then, they are far far better than they used to be. If people are still finding issue with them (I haven't lately tbh, haven't seen a lot of them) fiddling with the charge up time preserves the damage which a forge gun should have and doesn't make the forge gunners feel persecuted.

none of that ever happens by 1 forge...EVER....youre very silly

shreads your expensive tank into pieces of dust in 5 seconds

way to guess what im skilled into, - btw ur totally wrong, you'll know its OP when it shreads your expensive tank into pieces of dust in 5 seconds, you'll know its OP, when you get 1 hit by this btch on a pilliar and you have a lot of ehp, you'll know its OP when your tank has 40% resistance and you get hit with 2000 damage, you will know it is OP when your whole team is fke up by 1 forgeunner, You will know it is OP when this btch can kill you with splash damage in 4 seconds, would you like me to go on?

It's an AV weapon, so yes, yes it is.

I find everything about you offensive....from your name, to the way you speak, to your ideas.....

Yup, what a clown. Prob 12 years old with a name like that. Every year older after that loses more respect.

I find everything about you offensive....from your name, to the way you speak, to your ideas.....

Well why does the 50k isk 10kg forgegun do more damage than a 5 ton railgun thats worth a million isk, it just doesnt make sense, and yes ur saying, but wait the ishykone dose 1600 not 1750 like the rail gun, but then you get complex damage mods and 25% damage form PRO level while the Rail only get 15% dmg increase from hybrid turrets and turret operation skills put together, Now your saying, but wait tanks can do dmg mods too, actually no cuz if we did, we could get soloed by AR's, n u know this sht is true.

This thread sucks. How about you make suggestions on how to fix the assault forge gun, like you implied in the title. What you suggested would nerf it to oblivion, and CCP does that enough on their own. So how about you practice with this thread, make a reasonable request with a valid argument, drop the attitudes, and re-post this thread in the feedback / suggestions page.

Why would anyone use an assault forgegun then?

Auto-firing is enough of a downside.

I've seen plenty of tanks shrug off Forge Gun fire. It's called evasion and tactics, just because you're in a tank it doesn't make you invincible.

Auto-firing is not a downside. Not being able to move like the breach forge gun is a downside.

I have the ability to use an officer forge gun and I have trouble taking out a good tanker who actually knows what he's doing. The only people who complain about forge guns are people that have low level vehicles and don't use them properly or infantry that stand still for too long. Go use a forge gun and try to snipewith it, its a hard skill to master. All these Damn people who complain all the time just need to shut up and spend more time playing and maybe their skills will improve. You don't see the best players in the game complaining because they have the skills to adapt to the changing weapons and situations on the battlefield.

That's due to the fact that CCP switched the module and turret costs around so now we have cheap ass modules but ridiculously expensive turrets. And the forge/rail gun balance (while strange I admit) is that forge guns do more damage, but have less range, while rail guns do less damage but have more range. Sadly rendering issues mean that this is somewhat broken right now,

I doubt it... Also its easy to spam AFG shots because the radius is huge, the projectile is fast, and the splash damage is huge, and the charge time is small...

I never heard of the officer forgegun..

All valid complaints from a tanker that doesn't use cover for his MLT tank... and fails to exploit the invincible armour reppers that tanks have at the moment - a proper tank fit can rep faster than an AFG with 2 comp damage mods can damage it (speaks from experience).

Forge sniping is not difficult, but ACCURATE forge gun sniping requires skill... much like effective sniping with any weapon for that matter. Nobody is crying for the plasma cannon to be nerfed but can be just as effective as a forge on a dropship-only accessible roof top. Hell, the HMG on the mushroom is pretty deadly too!

FG splash radius is not huge. Mass driver splash radius is huge.

All valid complaints from a tanker that doesn't use cover for his MLT tank... and fails to exploit the invincible armour reppers that tanks have at the moment - a proper tank fit can rep faster than an AFG with 2 comp damage mods can damage it (speaks from experience).

Forge sniping is not difficult, but ACCURATE forge gun sniping requires skill... much like effective sniping with any weapon for that matter. Nobody is crying for the plasma cannon to be nerfed but can be just as effective as a forge on a dropship-only accessible roof top. Hell, the HMG on the mushroom is pretty deadly too!

FG splash radius is not huge. Mass driver splash radius is huge.

Breach FG can move

You can bunny hop where you need to go! Its so OP, a bunny hopping Heavy with a charged Breach!

Nerf Hopping.

To all those getting nailed by a Breach- that charge up time is long, if you stand still that long you should feel bad.

As a reply to the other FG OP, shenanigans...

Counter with:

Sniping
Running, walking, or just generally moving and not staying still
Our range is limited, the rail tank has render limitations for its range
also tactics work

THe forgegun autoshoots when fully charged. So if your accuracy is just a tad off, you'll miss

Give it a overheat, about every 2 shots ,it overheats for 8 seconds.... Also remove the proficiency skill, it already does a crap ton of damage, it dont need no moe... Also reduce damage by a tad
pretty hard nerf.... But dis shizzz be OP as fkkkkkk

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this is how you fix a OP weapon to bring it into line with all the other weapons... What you think it is UP?

And you are quite stupid for saying a HMG is effective at medium range, and no, plasma cannons ARE absolute SHlT against everything...

My sp is everywhere....

Auto-firing is not a downside. Not being able to move like the breach forge gun is a downside.

And you are quite stupid for saying a HMG is effective at medium range, and no, plasma cannons ARE absolute SHlT against everything...

[just cuz you got a forge gun, It MAKES you OP. And you were probably witnessing Plasma Cannon shots or Militia Forgegun shots

your obviously not a vehicle driver, btw its used as Anti infantry most of the time...

also they should just decrease the damage on the assault variant. that's what every other assault variant is like for other weapons. thanks

So increased range and decreased damage eh?
I guess then it should also be able to hold its charge like the other FGs?

That's a first. Never thought I'd hear someone say not being able to hold the charge for the best possible shot is somehow positive.

Now how the fk am i suppose to counter when im in a tank on the ground and this is a btch on a pillar.

Give it a overheat, about every 2 shots ,it overheats for 8 seconds.... Also remove the proficiency skill, it already does a crap ton of damage, it dont need no moe... Also reduce damage by a tad
pretty hard nerf.... But dis shizzz be OP as fkkkkkk

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get lost your new.... ha you cant say anything cuz you gotta wait 5 minutes to post a again, you mad?

way to guess what im skilled into, - btw ur totally wrong, you'll know its OP when it shreads your expensive tank into pieces of dust in 5 seconds, you'll know its OP, when you get 1 hit by this btch on a pilliar and you have a lot of ehp, you'll know its OP when your tank has 40% resistance and you get hit with 2000 damage, you will know it is OP when your whole team is fke up by 1 forgeunner, You will know it is OP when this btch can kill you with splash damage in 4 seconds, would you like me to go on?

So, From my personal thoughts, I remember that an AsFG Deals 1500 Damage on hit (Don't quote me on it though....) So, 1500*2=3000

3000/8=375 DPS. And that's not taking into account charge time.

375 DPS on a 4K HP tank.

Heres the DPS of the Proto Swarms.

6*390= 2340.

So, assumeing the guy doesn't try to hit the Repper/booster, it would take 2 Swarm Volleys to kill a Tank.

Now, the refire rate On Swarm Launchers is tricky, but Assuming the time it takes to hit the target is 2.5 Seconds...

2340*2=4680
4680/2.5=1872.

So, this is basically a change to make a Heavy weapon UP. We already have one of those, we don't need another.