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Protocake JR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
367
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:19:00 -
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Bored and curious if others feel(s) the way I do.
I've stopped buying aurum mainly because I feel that it does not provide the value that I want in this game. Even when I was running Omega passive and active boosters, I still felt like I was being held back from progressing at the rate I felt was acceptable. It felt like grinding then and now that my omegas are gone, the grinding is even more of a chore. To put it shortly, I suppose the never ending grind is demoralizing and i'm simply burned out.
I don't think buying boosters is worth it anymore. I've played this game for free for over a year and only in the past 3 months have I bought aurum (90$). To me, it feels like this:
>play for free and grind for eternity (3-6 months depending how special you want to get) to specialize into a single role. >Buy aurum every month and grind for 2-4 months in order to specialize into a single role.
DISCLAIMER: DIGRESSION AHEAD
I'm pretty drunk right now and for some reason this is a really complicated issue for me (one issue keep leading to another, and another, and another, and another, and another......) to process in my head right now. For example, now I want to talk about the bad skill design. ( I believe there should be no such thing as "Core Skills" or as referred to ingame as dropsuit upgrades) Every dropsuit's CPU, PG, ARMOR, SHIELD, SCANNING, and all other skills listed under that category needs to be balanced from the start. The skill upgrades shouldn't exist in the first place. Give everyone the same starting HP, and make them decide how they want to modify their HP with their modules, not how long they've had an account.
I've digressed a bit. Sorry. But I don't want to delete it so I will Italicize my digression and label it as a disclaimer.
Basically what i'm trying to say is, from my point of view, I wish that CCP will treat purchasers of AURUM better in the future. I am no longer willing to pay money in order to barely put a dent in the amount of grinding I have to do to unlock skills.
INB4 fanboys telling me to play for fun (we can't even reach 5000 online. THIS GAME ISN'T FUN)
INB4 pay to win (LOL this entire game is built on pay-to-win. Just because i'm using $$$ and not ISK will not keep me from destroying you or vice versa. Also players grow wider not taller.) |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
5258
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:23:00 -
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Bought one merc pack many months ago, haven't used up the AUR yet, so have no reason to buy more. I guess I could buy more boosters, but I'm waiting for the paintbucket dropsuit color customization system; if I have enough AUR after that, then I'll likely buy a syndicate SMG, and boosters, and more AUR. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
1020
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:23:00 -
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haven't put any more real money into this game in a couple months.
still going thru my AUR with short active boosters, passive has another week and unlikely ill get more of that
then again I have a virtual mountain of SP and only use AUR for boosters.
P2W items ive never messed with, not to mention the isk version is available to me for pretty much.... everything |
SteelDark Knight
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
72
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:27:00 -
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I stopped buying Aurum (or special packs) several months ago for several reasons.
1) Value GÇô I only purchase boosters and I felt that the standard booster no longer was of value vs cost.
2) No long term confidence GÇô I have played many F2P titles and watched many close after a bit of time. As such I am very aware that everything purchased can be wiped away by that closure. I no longer have confidence in the long term stability of Dust 514 and since I do not like to throw money away I have stopped investing. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
805
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:28:00 -
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I got boosters still to go
Plus im waiting for anymore omega boosters to pop up for the rest of my AUR |
Piercing Serenity
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
380
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:30:00 -
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Stopped using boosters after i felt like getting SP was becoming too grindy. This coincided with getting to an SP level where my role is more or less maxed out and I'm beyond the point where not having enough SP will make me less competitive (12M+ in Assault only) |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
776
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:35:00 -
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I'm at 12m+ Don't need it now. I stopped grinding, and I feel so much better. Was playing a racing game the other day, "beep beep girls! want to get into my car?"
*we seen on the news cases of that..."
WTF MAN?! |
NAV HIV
The Generals EoN.
324
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:39:00 -
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Ummm No omega Boosters?! |
Vethosis
Murder Cakes Of Doom
806
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:42:00 -
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i buy them occasionally. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
374
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:48:00 -
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Agreed with everything you said except the disclaimer part lol. I'm ok with having core skills since I like to get rewarded for time invested into the game. It's just that the time is way too long. The SP sinks are terrible. Some skills like weaponry don't even have a bonus and I have it at lvl 5 to unlock my HMG. I want all skills to have a bonus, even if it's minimal. Everything else you wrote is exactly what I would have said. +1
-XOXO |
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gbh08
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:54:00 -
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I havnt spent a penny on the game
I've looked at the AUR stuff, but theres nothing i want
I cant even think of anything i would want added, other than to maybe paint my dropsuit, tank and llav
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Aran Abbas
Goonfeet Top Men.
215
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:57:00 -
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I have over 12 million sp, with passive omega boosters still queued, so there's no reason to buy aurum for those. There's also no variation between many of the BPO's on offer, so there's no point in buying aurum to get the same AR with just a different name and skin. In fact, many of the BPO's are inferior to Standard level isk items (I'm looking at you Dren). Why pay real money for inferior items when you have over 120 million isk and you can get for 1500 isk? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6957
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:00:00 -
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Boosters and appealing to my collector senses. |
KingBabar
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
1011
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:06:00 -
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Me too.
The way they seem to first make very (un)popular items on sale, like the various direct hit nades, and then suddenly changing them into 1/10 of its preceived value is just bad karma. (They reduced the number from 2 or 3 down to 1, they upped the fitting cost from 9/2 and 18/3 up to 48/6 - making them totally useless the way I used them as a cheaper to fit nade for a scout or equipment heavy Logi fitting. )
The other thing is the totally BS useless packages they sell. Yes the elite Pack gave me a nice red BPO LAV, some AUR and some Boosters, but all the other BPOs are next to useless IMO. Why make a BPO AR with the name Dren AR when its the exact same gun as an Exile AR? Given the price and the names of the packages, (Starter, Veteran and Elite, or something in that direction, I can't remember) - If they atleast had given the stats for the stuff.
I honestly believed that the Dren AR would be better than the Exile, it was in a bigger pack with a bigger price tag named "elite", what "elite" would ever use a basic gun? Its perhaps not a direct lie, I can probably not "catch" them on any legal matter, but they have lost my faith, I now only see them as a bunch of greedy amataurs that in most cases have no idea what they're doing. I will not support this game anymore. Not without the respects and a buy back option for AUR stuff when CCP nerf stuff into uselessness.
Simply put, CCP lacks any sence of normal common decency and they violate the practice of thousandds of years of trade.
Dealing with proffesional clients instead of gamers in this manner would have put them out of business a long time ago.
No more AUR for me untill they go back on some of their polecies.
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LittleCuteBunny
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
19
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:13:00 -
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DCUO is getting my cash :3 7 DLCs that look sexy Account Upgrades that are not perishable
It's crap but at least it feels your characters/account gets better |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
530
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:17:00 -
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why have i stopped?
because my elite pack came with more aurum than ill need in a year. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6961
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:18:00 -
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I would probably buy more if they threw in paint. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
908
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:26:00 -
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I budget $20 a month for this. I bought the elite pack so no more real money from me until October or so. Between the boosters that came with the pack and the Aurum stash I have I'll be covered for boosters until then. The elite seemed the best deal and in return I got a BPO LAV and four BPO standard level suits.
Spend that money wisely CCP and I'll buy another fat pack for my birthday. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
2294
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:28:00 -
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I have a couple alts that still use boosters. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
908
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would probably buy more if they threw in paint.
I'm a sucker for customization. That would make me spend some of that Aurum. I'd also have to buy another elite pack immediately if an Angel/Minmatar themed one were to hit the market with a Domination Minmatar LAV in it and Domination Logistics, Domination Scout, Domination Combat Rifle...
Yeah, make that happen. Please.
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Queen of Uranus
Dust514 Forum Trolls
25
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:31:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would probably buy more if they threw in paint.
Work your magic and get us some Pink proto Cal. assault suits.
Please |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
908
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:35:00 -
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Queen of Uranus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would probably buy more if they threw in paint. Work your magic and get us some Pink proto Cal. assault suits. Please
Maybe its time for a new Quafe event. Best to bump up the number of suits you get though to encourage their use. I have 125 of the Quafe Proto Scout suits that I can't use. Waiting for the market to open up. |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
256
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:38:00 -
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Meh, I've spent more money for less on an impulsive whim.
It's only money, after all. You only live once, and you can't take it with you. |
Queen of Uranus
Dust514 Forum Trolls
27
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:39:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Queen of Uranus wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would probably buy more if they threw in paint. Work your magic and get us some Pink proto Cal. assault suits. Please Maybe its time for a new Quafe event. Best to bump up the number of suits you get though to encourage their use. I have 125 of the Quafe Proto Scout suits that I can't use. Waiting for the market to open up.
That's a good idea. You could call them Quafe Events held every other month or so with rotating suits. All pink btw. |
Queen of Uranus
Dust514 Forum Trolls
27
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:40:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Meh, I've spent more money for less on an impulsive whim.
It's only money, after all. You only live once, and you can't spend it because you're dead.
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Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1100
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:42:00 -
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I can already do most of what I want to do.
Why pay to do stuff I don't want to do?
All that is left is customization and frankly there aren't any social environments to really show anything off in. So who cares? |
da GAND
187.
227
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:48:00 -
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hehehehe I've never bought Aurum because it's really not worth it, I don't care if the price is low it's a f2p game and I don't see the need to purchase anything in this game. Except for those passive boosters maybe but still I don't wanna spend money on a game that is likely to fail pretty soon. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
678
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:52:00 -
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I stopped buying Aurum for a few reasons:
1. I have enough SP (13+ million) that my core skills are full up on this role. Yes, everything is huge SP numbers away for small improvements, but I have no problem waiting at this point. I have a solid set of skills to use and a decent set of options with which to play. I am almost ready to start pooling SP in anticipation of future offerings, as what is currently available for vehicle operators is pretty limited.
2. I have learned the hard way to not buy items from CCP after what they did to the armored assault pack. I will never purchase items again with cash or aurum, because they can and will be changed at CCP's whims, making what I purchased suddenly less desirable. I have zero confidence in purchasing anything from a company that has a proven record of changing said items after the fact.
3. I have a Merc pack worth of items, including an active booster stuck on a toon that I want to biomass. Until I can trade those items off, there is little to no reason to invest more, as I consider it a barometer of how CCP has progressed. I understand that item trading is a LONG way off, but that is on CCP, not me.
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
648
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:56:00 -
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I buy aurum cause I enjoy the game, when I stop enjoying the game I will stop buying aurum, it's not complicated... |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
909
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Posted - 2013.08.05 14:58:00 -
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da GAND wrote:hehehehe I've never bought Aurum because it's really not worth it, I don't care if the price is low it's a f2p game and I don't see the need to purchase anything in this game. Except for those passive boosters maybe but still I don't wanna spend money on a game that is likely to fail pretty soon.
F2P gives you that option. I have money and feel that if I pay for my entertainment then hopefully it'll be used to improve that entertainment. Otherwise, the company has no reason to continue providing the service. What's cool is that those that don't have the money to spend can still participate and provide content as well. At $20 per month it's costing me about $0.50 per hour or less. Damn cheap entertainment.
You seem to think the game is going to fail but you're still here participating and theoretically playing the game and receiving enjoyment. If you have money maybe its time to chip in a few bucks so it doesn't fail? If anything you can help put food on the table of the lowly artists and coders.
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
639
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:08:00 -
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I stopped buying AUR roughly 3 months ago. It wasn't really planned, i just stopped.
Still have passive & active boosters, But won't be buying more AUR. If CCP can dig their way out of the hole they've dug for themselves and resurrect DUST's future then maybe. |
da GAND
187.
227
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:09:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:da GAND wrote:hehehehe I've never bought Aurum because it's really not worth it, I don't care if the price is low it's a f2p game and I don't see the need to purchase anything in this game. Except for those passive boosters maybe but still I don't wanna spend money on a game that is likely to fail pretty soon. F2P gives you that option. I have money and feel that if I pay for my entertainment then hopefully it'll be used to improve that entertainment. Otherwise, the company has no reason to continue providing the service. What's cool is that those that don't have the money to spend can still participate and provide content as well. At $20 per month it's costing me about $0.50 per hour or less. Damn cheap entertainment. You seem to think the game is going to fail but you're still here participating and theoretically playing the game and receiving enjoyment. If you have money maybe its time to chip in a few bucks so it doesn't fail? If anything you can help put food on the table of the lowly artists and coders.
I'm actually not sure that it's going to fail really, when I'm grinding my character through a few battles I'm like "What's the point?, I'm gonna be doing the same thing over and over again." So I've been taking longer and longer brakes, I have high hopes for Dust 514 but I really doubt that CCP is going to be able to save the game in it's current state. 60% of the time I think this game is going to fail , the other 40% of the time when I'm calm and enjoying this game I think that Dust 514 is going to succeed and is gonna have a great future. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
244
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:15:00 -
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<__> I never bought it, even since I joined like a year and a half ago... |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
256
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:17:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:da GAND wrote:hehehehe I've never bought Aurum because it's really not worth it, I don't care if the price is low it's a f2p game and I don't see the need to purchase anything in this game. Except for those passive boosters maybe but still I don't wanna spend money on a game that is likely to fail pretty soon. F2P gives you that option. I have money and feel that if I pay for my entertainment then hopefully it'll be used to improve that entertainment. Otherwise, the company has no reason to continue providing the service. What's cool is that those that don't have the money to spend can still participate and provide content as well. At $20 per month it's costing me about $0.50 per hour or less. Damn cheap entertainment. You seem to think the game is going to fail but you're still here participating and theoretically playing the game and receiving enjoyment. If you have money maybe its time to chip in a few bucks so it doesn't fail? If anything you can help put food on the table of the lowly artists and coders.
Companies generally don't invest years, and millions of dollars, developing a product, only to let it fail after just a couple months. Not without a fight, at least.
That's just bad business.
Unless something really drastic happens, like CCP declaring bancrupcy, I'm sure this game will be around for quite a while.
Most of the serious money's already been spent in the initial development, and I'm sure the cost to maintain it and keep the servers up and running is minimal, by comparison.
As long as there are enough players to fill the lobbies, and at least some real $ trickling in, I am confident that DUST will survive.
CCP needs to try and get as much return on their investment as possible, after all. |
DarkShadowFox
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
245
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:19:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:da GAND wrote:hehehehe I've never bought Aurum because it's really not worth it, I don't care if the price is low it's a f2p game and I don't see the need to purchase anything in this game. Except for those passive boosters maybe but still I don't wanna spend money on a game that is likely to fail pretty soon. F2P gives you that option. I have money and feel that if I pay for my entertainment then hopefully it'll be used to improve that entertainment. Otherwise, the company has no reason to continue providing the service. What's cool is that those that don't have the money to spend can still participate and provide content as well. At $20 per month it's costing me about $0.50 per hour or less. Damn cheap entertainment. You seem to think the game is going to fail but you're still here participating and theoretically playing the game and receiving enjoyment. If you have money maybe its time to chip in a few bucks so it doesn't fail? If anything you can help put food on the table of the lowly artists and coders. Companies generally don't invest years, and millions of dollars, developing a product, only to let it fail after just a couple months. Not without a fight, at least. That's just bad business. Unless something really drastic happens, like CCP declaring bancrupcy, I'm sure this game will be around for quite a while. Most of the serious money's already been spent in the initial development, and I'm sure the cost to maintain it and keep the servers up and running is minimal, by comparison. As long as there are enough players to fill the lobbies, and at least some real $ trickling in, I am confident that DUST will survive. CCP needs to try and get as much return on their investment as possible, after all.
the only thing im waiting for is the next gen port. thats about it. lets see how buggy it gets after that aye? |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
220
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:20:00 -
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I actually respect CCP's micro-transaction model for this game. It isn't straight-up pay-to-win, even if you can gain access to higher tier equipment sooner than normal. I see that more as a trial run before investing more SP into an item.
I haven't actually purchased the higher grade weapons/suits/tanks with AUR, though, I put every AUR into boosters and militia BPO's. If they add a Type-I Gal Assault BPO in the vein of the Raven Caldari one, I'd snatch it up in a heartbeat! |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
181
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:21:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Me too.
The way they seem to first make very (un)popular items on sale, like the various direct hit nades, and then suddenly changing them into 1/10 of its preceived value is just bad karma. (They reduced the number from 2 or 3 down to 1, they upped the fitting cost from 9/2 and 18/3 up to 48/6 - making them totally useless the way I used them as a cheaper to fit nade for a scout or equipment heavy Logi fitting. )
The other thing is the totally BS useless packages they sell. Yes the elite Pack gave me a nice red BPO LAV, some AUR and some Boosters, but all the other BPOs are next to useless IMO. Why make a BPO AR with the name Dren AR when its the exact same gun as an Exile AR? Given the price and the names of the packages, (Starter, Veteran and Elite, or something in that direction, I can't remember) - If they atleast had given the stats for the stuff.
I honestly believed that the Dren AR would be better than the Exile, it was in a bigger pack with a bigger price tag named "elite", what "elite" would ever use a basic gun? Its perhaps not a direct lie, I can probably not "catch" them on any legal matter, but they have lost my faith, I now only see them as a bunch of greedy amataurs that in most cases have no idea what they're doing. I will not support this game anymore. Not without the respects and a buy back option for AUR stuff when CCP nerf stuff into uselessness.
Simply put, CCP lacks any sence of normal common decency and they violate the practice of thousandds of years of trade.
Dealing with proffesional clients instead of gamers in this manner would have put them out of business a long time ago.
No more AUR for me untill they go back on some of their polecies.
This I spent a lot of money on Dust not anymore. I don't trust them anymore they tweak to much for the worse. Without a respec option not coming back or spending money until that policy is changed. I will save my hobby money for other games like GTA V.
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da GAND
187.
228
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:22:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:da GAND wrote:hehehehe I've never bought Aurum because it's really not worth it, I don't care if the price is low it's a f2p game and I don't see the need to purchase anything in this game. Except for those passive boosters maybe but still I don't wanna spend money on a game that is likely to fail pretty soon. F2P gives you that option. I have money and feel that if I pay for my entertainment then hopefully it'll be used to improve that entertainment. Otherwise, the company has no reason to continue providing the service. What's cool is that those that don't have the money to spend can still participate and provide content as well. At $20 per month it's costing me about $0.50 per hour or less. Damn cheap entertainment. You seem to think the game is going to fail but you're still here participating and theoretically playing the game and receiving enjoyment. If you have money maybe its time to chip in a few bucks so it doesn't fail? If anything you can help put food on the table of the lowly artists and coders. Companies generally don't invest years, and millions of dollars, developing a product, only to let it fail after just a couple months. Not without a fight, at least. That's just bad business. Unless something really drastic happens, like CCP declaring bancrupcy, I'm sure this game will be around for quite a while. Most of the serious money's already been spent in the initial development, and I'm sure the cost to maintain it and keep the servers up and running is minimal, by comparison. As long as there are enough players to fill the lobbies, and at least some real $ trickling in, I am confident that DUST will survive. CCP needs to try and get as much return on their investment as possible, after all.
I understand that a company wouldn't let a game like this fail with so much money invested into it, but right now it's looking like CCP fked up somewhere. And people are getting sick and tired of playing the same thing over and over again, on the same maps. I don't really see a point to get on besides for PC battles and the skill cap reset. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
680
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:26:00 -
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Jaqen Morghalis wrote:
Unless something really drastic happens, like CCP declaring bancrupcy, I'm sure this game will be around for quite a while.
CCP needs to try and get as much return on their investment as possible, after all.
Just because the servers are running, that doesn't mean that the game is something new people will want to invest the necessary time in to be competitive. If we end up in a situation where there is a small cluster of High SP players in dominant positions and there is a dropping player count, the game will be pretty much done in my eyes.
I am not going to invest months getting teams ready to only have the top 200 stomp us out every time we try and get something going. PC is the core feature of the game right now, aside from FW, the only thing that differentiates it from other FPS games. Right now that end game is absolutely over, so you can either try to join the big dog alliance, or stay indie and not get involved in PC.
Having no viable end game other than lobby shooter 514 sucks. Without enough people to play, the matchmaker will struggle to produce quality matchups, and the level of pub play will continue to degrade. As it is now when I put a squad together, we pub stomp, when I go solo, the team I am on gets rolled, no matter what I do. If this is the long term outlook for Dust, no matter if the servers are still running or not the game will be effectively dead, as the core user base pulls further away from the new blood, who never stick around long enough to get to the competitive level.
Next, with that dwindling user base, there is a much smaller window of monetization, which will lead CCP to do something foolhardy, which is well within their reach, as shown by previous efforts. |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
793
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:29:00 -
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I stopped buying aurum for multiple reasons.
1. Free giveaways 2. More free giveaways by farming "recruits" 3. Only consumable easy to lose by militia nade items and boosters 4. No real need for boosters anymore 5. already got a stockpile of BPO
The only thing i can think of that would actually make me buy some more, would be customizable merc quarters. Special flags or banners, color schemes , a bigger monitor .. i dunno. stuff
And maybe an aur option to have a permenant logo on your suits |
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
461
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:32:00 -
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I want to get a Merc Pack, but not with the same old "Vanilla" variants. Why not have 4 or 5 different sets to pick from? It's not as if there's not enough space on the shelf. And lack of ADV BPOs would be my reasoning for not using my Aurum on anything but P2W Boosters. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
910
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:39:00 -
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da GAND wrote:I understand that a company wouldn't let a game like this fail with so much money invested into it, but right now it's looking like CCP fked up somewhere. And people are getting sick and tired of playing the same thing over and over again, on the same maps. I don't really see a point to get on besides for PC battles and the skill cap reset.
CCP, like any corporation, keeps their internal affairs protected but from the rumors floating around it sounds like they weren't happy with at least some of the things that happened when developing DUST. It sounds like there has been a reorganization of sorts. Crap happens and software is hard. Sometimes people are put in the wrong positions. Whatever has happened I get the feeling that things are back on track. CCP also likes to dream big and isn't afraid to deal with failure. I respect them for that despite being disappointed sometimes.
I play less because it's the same old content over and over again. I'd like to see the full racial options for equipment and customization. I'd like to see PvE. I'd really like to see long running battles to use the full terrain maps instead of just short matches. Even though I play less DUST it still gets the majority of my attention but, as always, there are games on the horizon that may change that.
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da GAND
187.
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:51:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:da GAND wrote:I understand that a company wouldn't let a game like this fail with so much money invested into it, but right now it's looking like CCP fked up somewhere. And people are getting sick and tired of playing the same thing over and over again, on the same maps. I don't really see a point to get on besides for PC battles and the skill cap reset. CCP, like any corporation, keeps their internal affairs protected but from the rumors floating around it sounds like they weren't happy with at least some of the things that happened when developing DUST. It sounds like there has been a reorganization of sorts. Crap happens and software is hard. Sometimes people are put in the wrong positions. Whatever has happened I get the feeling that things are back on track. CCP also likes to dream big and isn't afraid to deal with failure. I respect them for that despite being disappointed sometimes. I play less because it's the same old content over and over again. I'd like to see the full racial options for equipment and customization. I'd like to see PvE. I'd really like to see long running battles to use the full terrain maps instead of just short matches. Even though I play less DUST it still gets the majority of my attention but, as always, there are games on the horizon that may change that.
Well I hope whatever happened in CCP is good, PvE is definitely needed and wanted. What also needs to happen is for us to become a very useful tool to EVE players, Boarding Parties, Defending ships from boarding parties, scouting parties to clear out rogue drones so EVE players can do stuff with the planet and much much more. Basically being able to get out in the EVE universe would really stop this from being another lobby shooter. And maybe then I'll buy some AURUM . |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
849
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:51:00 -
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I will not buy aurum until vehicle's can be locked and large unmanned auto aiming turret installations nerfed. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
911
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Posted - 2013.08.05 15:55:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:I will not buy aurum until vehicle's can be locked and large unmanned auto aiming turret installations nerfed.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1103035#post1103035
Vehicle locking is described as a "want". That needs to be upgraded to a "must have ASAP". I've dabbled in vehicles and have been so turned off by theft by blueberries already that I went back to training up my scout fit. |
HowDidThatTaste
Ancient Exiles Negative-Feedback
3478
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:00:00 -
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I agree with much that has already been said.
I also feel like their design of the aurum tree is finite, I have skilled up everything and no longer "need things faster"
I would have no problems spending more money but I have plenty of boosters from all the packs I already bought and have no use for aurum.
I would think that CCP really needs to re asses their long term goals for making, money from hi leveled characters because all this low end BPO stuff is irrelevant and no new items to purchase. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
861
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:02:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I would probably buy more if they threw in paint. I'm a sucker for customization. That would make me spend some of that Aurum. I'd also have to buy another elite pack immediately if an Angel/Minmatar themed one were to hit the market with a Domination Minmatar LAV in it and Domination Logistics, Domination Scout, Domination Combat Rifle... Yeah, make that happen. Please.
I would snatch up one of those right quick too (only difference is that it would be my first Elite pack).
Protocake JR wrote: DISCLAIMER: DIGRESSION AHEAD
I'm pretty drunk right now and for some reason this is a really complicated issue for me (one issue keep leading to another, and another, and another, and another, and another......) to process in my head right now. For example, now I want to talk about the bad skill design. ( I believe there should be no such thing as "Core Skills" or as referred to ingame as dropsuit upgrades) Every dropsuit's CPU, PG, ARMOR, SHIELD, SCANNING, and all other skills listed under that category needs to be balanced from the start. The skill upgrades shouldn't exist in the first place. Give everyone the same starting HP, and make them decide how they want to modify their HP with their modules, not how long they've had an account.
LOL, you do realize that this is one of the main things that separates Dust from other run of the mill lobby shooters right? Skills and Fitting are really the only "real" connections to Eve that aren't totally RP.
EDIT: I almost forgot, I've stopped buying AURUM (I did a while back), I'm voting with my wallet and will give more cash carrots to CCP when I see definitive progress in a direction I approve of.
I support CCP's vision, though I am not the brainless zombie fanboy some might think. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
124
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:03:00 -
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money is pretty much worthless, an gaming is fun.
so spending 20-50 bux on games once a month is nothing..
The game is pay to have more isk, when proto guns are 50% off for 25 AUR, thats 77k isk for 25 AUR.
but im sure you know that =)
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Zael Azna
Glitched Connection
4
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:09:00 -
[49] - Quote
I have bought a merc pack and some extra aurum for boosters. I know CCP has invested a lot of work into DUST and I enjoy the game. So I am willing to support DUST with some real world money. I do wish they would offer some new merc packs. I would like to see a merc pack with a variety of options so you build your own pack that fits your play style and what you have specced into. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
851
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:09:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:I will not buy aurum until vehicle's can be locked and large unmanned auto aiming turret installations nerfed. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1103035#post1103035Vehicle locking is described as a "want". That needs to be upgraded to a "must have ASAP". I've dabbled in vehicles and have been so turned off by theft by blueberries already that I went back to training up my scout fit.
yea it's pretty stupid to have in a game based on having to buy everything and then provide us with absolutely no form a friendly fire whatsoever unless we join the travesty of what PC currently is, but that points moot since i doubt a blueberry is going to steal his team's vehicle in PC.
if they would just make it so the blueberries actually had to hack the vehicle before stealing it would go a very long way in helping the problem some |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2669
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:14:00 -
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I don't buy AUR- however, I don't have a problem with people who do (now that AUR gear is no longer OP), since they're supporting the game |
Logi Stician
The Vanguardians
87
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:56:00 -
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I bought the elite pack for my main and my alt because I get tons of use out of the Dren Logi suit and get decent WP from running a Dren with full BPO gear. This allows me to make insane amounts of ISK and have more patience with what I'm dumping SP into (pretty much only core skills for now).
Having that setup has made both purchases absolutely worth it, as I am able to contribute to the team with more than just the starter assault fits and I feel as though I have more options available to me while I make the tediously slow climb up to prototype level suits and gear.
And what will happen when I do have the top end fits and I have my coveted 4 equipment slots and I'm logi-ing peoples socks off all day long? I still have those BPOs to help me "fund raise" when my wallet is a little light and I can do it with dignity of having my 3 Dren logi equipment slots. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1296
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
Protocake JR wrote:Bored and curious if others feel(s) the way I do.
I've stopped buying aurum mainly because I feel that it does not provide the value that I want in this game. Even when I was running Omega passive and active boosters, I still felt like I was being held back from progressing at the rate I felt was acceptable. It felt like grinding then and now that my omegas are gone, the grinding is even more of a chore. To put it shortly, I suppose the never ending grind is demoralizing and i'm simply burned out.
I don't think buying boosters is worth it anymore. I've played this game for free for over a year and only in the past 3 months have I bought aurum (90$). To me, it feels like this:
>play for free and grind for eternity (3-6 months depending how special you want to get) to specialize into a single role. >Buy aurum every month and grind for 2-4 months in order to specialize into a single role.
This is not a significant reward for buying aurum.
DISCLAIMER: DIGRESSION AHEAD
I'm pretty drunk right now and for some reason this is a really complicated issue for me (one issue keep leading to another, and another, and another, and another, and another......) to process in my head right now. For example, now I want to talk about the bad skill design. ( I believe there should be no such thing as "Core Skills" or as referred to ingame as dropsuit upgrades) Every dropsuit's CPU, PG, ARMOR, SHIELD, SCANNING, and all other skills listed under that category needs to be balanced from the start. The skill upgrades shouldn't exist in the first place. Give everyone the same starting HP, and make them decide how they want to modify their HP with their modules, not how long they've had an account.
I've digressed a bit. Sorry. But I don't want to delete it so I will Italicize my digression and label it as a disclaimer.
Basically what i'm trying to say is, from my point of view, I wish that CCP will treat purchasers of AURUM better in the future. I am no longer willing to pay money in order to barely put a dent in the amount of grinding I have to do to unlock skills.
INB4 fanboys telling me to play for fun (we can't even reach 5000 online. THIS GAME ISN'T FUN)
INB4 pay to win (LOL this entire game is built on pay-to-win. Just because i'm using $$$ and not ISK will not keep me from destroying you or vice versa. Also players grow wider not taller.)
I stopped buying Aurum because I am saving to buy a house. Priorities. Crazy, I know. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
584
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:07:00 -
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I have the one merc pack dragonfly assault /w toxin AR. A booster would be nice again, but buying $20 worth of AUR aint worth it, and buying the same merc pack again aint worth it. Plus waiting to see what they do to vehicles. For me 1.5 might be the last of dust514 depending. |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
239
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:09:00 -
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Haha, I've not bought a single unit of aurum. I don't really ever plan to either. |
Quill Killian
Better Hide R Die
226
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:10:00 -
[56] - Quote
I've stopped buying aurum because I'm currently sitting on 206,000 AUR and, frankly, that's more than enough to power passive boosters on my main character through the end of the year. |
IceShifter Childhaspawn
DUST University Ivy League
172
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:21:00 -
[57] - Quote
I stopped buying Aur because I only wanted the packs. The Aur and the boosters that came with them have given me too much for my needs. I purchased every BPO, every vehicle BPO, and evened out my boosters so that I am at 3 months in each category. I used to fill my Proto suit with Aur variants because its cheaper to run proto with Aur than it is to run with isk.
Vanity items would cause me to buy more. A Gallente BPO of any fraggin tier would cause me to buy more. Other than that, there isnt really anything left to buy. So I don't. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1070
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:35:00 -
[58] - Quote
bought 4(four) 30 passive booster and say im not buying anything more till the game is more fun then AFKing. AFKing is still more fun so yea i play to need to AFK, cue up the mic and LOL at the ragers and tryhards. those passive boosters ran out this week. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
861
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Posted - 2013.08.06 01:38:00 -
[59] - Quote
TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Reav Hannari wrote:TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:I will not buy aurum until vehicle's can be locked and large unmanned auto aiming turret installations nerfed. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1103035#post1103035Vehicle locking is described as a "want". That needs to be upgraded to a "must have ASAP". I've dabbled in vehicles and have been so turned off by theft by blueberries already that I went back to training up my scout fit. yea it's pretty stupid to have in a game based on having to buy everything and then provide us with absolutely no form a friendly fire whatsoever unless we join the travesty of what PC currently is, but that points moot since i doubt a blueberry is going to steal his team's vehicle in PC. if they would just make it so the blueberries actually had to hack the vehicle before stealing it would go a very long way in helping the problem some
TBH, I think they should go a step beyond that and make vehicle operators ACTUALLY BE SKILLED TO USE THE VEHICLE THEY WANT TO STEAL.
It makes absolutely no sense to me that in Eve, I can't even make a ship active in the hangar if I am not properly skilled for it, but in Dust it is **** skills, I just need to hop in and speed away.
I think it'd go a long way towards solving some of the QQ around here (both from people wanting vehicle locks and it would also give more people a better understanding of what vehicle operators were bitching about since they'd have to be properly skilled to do more than just be a passenger). |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
313
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:11:00 -
[60] - Quote
I am thinking of buying some. I think it's fair to pay for the game if one keeps playing it. I don't want AUR for anything specific but will prolly use it for boosters. |
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CAELAN Andoril
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
59
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:19:00 -
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I bought the Merc pack in Closed Beta I think sometime around July. I've made the unfortunate mistake of deleting characters and restarting, although I now consider this one to be my 'main'. I mainly bought the pack so I could get into the beta, as I had been anticipating this game for years. The rest was a bonus.
I haven't paid CCP a cent since simply because I don't see it being worth it in the long-run. The game's unpolished, unfinished, and not really all that much fun at times. I stay because they have a good concept, but suffer from poor execution, so I try and vocalise what I think the game needs, and overall treat the game as still in beta, because in my eyes, it still is. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5614
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:22:00 -
[62] - Quote
Protocake JR wrote:INB4 fanboys telling me to play for fun (we can't even reach 5000 online. THIS GAME ISN'T FUN) Amen
Protocake JR wrote:Also players grow wider not taller.) Sumo 514 |
Green Living
0uter.Heaven EoN.
743
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:53:00 -
[63] - Quote
I still buy aurum to fund my desire for passive skill boosters. I have lots of expendable income in real life and I enjoy coming home from work and seeing all dat passive! |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
493
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Posted - 2013.08.06 03:59:00 -
[64] - Quote
I made a personal vow to not spend another cent on DUST until all four racial Heavy suits are in the game.
I've been playing with the exact same lego blocks for a full year now, and the rest of the game has changed and expanded quite a bit since then. It's high time for some new Heavy toys. (And no: Commando did not count.) |
FLAYLOCK Steve
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:17:00 -
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Stopped buying aurum. I bought all the mercenary packs (mercenary, veteran and elite) Main reason I bought them was so I can be a jack of all trades guy. With standard suits and having weapons to compliment them would make me very useful. So far I own many guns: Assault rifle level 4 Mass driver level 3 Forge gun level 4 Heavy machine gun level 4 Nova knife level 3 Scrambler rifle level 1 Sniper level 3 Flaylock level 5 Remote explosive level 3 And everything else is probably level 1. My point is is this, pretty soon my forge gun will get nerfed. The Mass driver will get nerfed again and become highly unstable again. Everything that isn't a assault rifle gets nerfed. That's why I speced into it. So I wouldn't have to worry about my guns beinguunstable. Nerf this Nerf that Nerf everything please cause that's all I see |
Darth-Carbonite GIO
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
65
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:46:00 -
[66] - Quote
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Bought one merc pack many months ago, haven't used up the AUR yet, so have no reason to buy more. I guess I could buy more boosters, but I'm waiting for the paintbucket dropsuit color customization system; if I have enough AUR after that, then I'll likely buy a syndicate SMG, and boosters, and more AUR.
This. I want color options! |
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