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Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
156
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Posted - 2013.08.04 05:43:00 -
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They won't do anything to make the llav useful. It will become another useless vehicle like the scout lav, all forms of dropships, and enforcers tanks.
It'd be like if only one or two weapons were viable for infantry.... Oh wait that is exactly the case.
Why do we play this game? |
aden slayer
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
555
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Posted - 2013.08.04 05:47:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:
Why do we play this game?
Is this a trick question? |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1565
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Posted - 2013.08.04 05:49:00 -
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Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
209
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Posted - 2013.08.04 05:50:00 -
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Do you really think CCP will set things up so that you roadkill one merc and suddenly your LAV or LLAV will explode?
I'm betting it will be a little/minor damage and a slight reduction in speed if all goes well. So that running people over will become a split second risk/reward decision instead of an automatic HELL YEAH! |
Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
156
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Posted - 2013.08.04 06:01:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for
Uhhh, it really can't.
The module it comes with is impossible to use. |
Eurydice Itzhak
Militaires Sans Jeux
156
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Posted - 2013.08.04 06:03:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Do you really think CCP will set things up so that you roadkill one merc and suddenly your LAV or LLAV will explode?
I'm betting it will be a little/minor damage and a slight reduction in speed if all goes well. So that running people over will become a split second risk/reward decision instead of an automatic HELL YEAH!
I imagine collision damage being all but removed or instadeath lavs.
Dropships used to be really useful for squishing mercenaries but now they explode if they so much as look at the ground. |
Foundation Seldon
Gespenster Kompanie
Villore Accords
64
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Posted - 2013.08.04 06:24:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for
Have you tried using the thing before? Unless the rebalance pass does something to address how extremely unintuitive the infantry repair module is in an actual battle then you'll still never see the thing used. |
gbh08
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2013.08.04 06:32:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for
to be fair, repping infantry with this thing is a royal pita, vehicle's, not so bad, but no wp's (repping shields), you could go the whole match using it for its intended purpose, yet get no points 
theres always time to nerf the hell outa weapons, but simple fixes just get overlooked for months upon months upon months
It does get tiring |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
990
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Posted - 2013.08.04 06:34:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for Uhhh, it really can't. The module it comes with is impossible to use.
I've seen it used so you point is invalid |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2013.08.04 07:12:00 -
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An LAV running into an armored tanked person should be like a sedan running into a deer. Running into a Heavy should be like hitting a moose. |
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
435
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Posted - 2013.08.04 07:15:00 -
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Atleast now there won't be pricks running people over anymore oh wait..my bad, atleast I only did it once in a while usually after I got run over |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6924
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Posted - 2013.08.04 07:43:00 -
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/me secretly wishes the repair tools was a passenger controlled item via turret like. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
2936
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Posted - 2013.08.04 08:33:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:/me secretly wishes the repair tools was a passenger controlled item via turret like.
I'd prefer a radial AoE module like the active scanner, if done right it could be very useful in engagements. Also the gallente SLAV while useful, can be very fun with 2 jovians on it. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax.
3826
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:14:00 -
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Wait for 1.5 vehicle rebalance.
/thread |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
233
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:36:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Do you really think CCP will set things up so that you roadkill one merc and suddenly your LAV or LLAV will explode?
I'm betting it will be a little/minor damage and a slight reduction in speed if all goes well. So that running people over will become a split second risk/reward decision instead of an automatic HELL YEAH! I imagine collision damage being all but removed or instadeath lavs. Dropships used to be really useful for squishing mercenaries but now they explode if they so much as look at the ground.
>_>
<_<
...had a dropship land on me on purpose and fly away just a few weeks ago...
Didn't catch the pilots name because I was laughing so hard. Props to the pilot.
It was awesome flying!  |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1093
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Posted - 2013.08.04 10:54:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for Uhhh, it really can't. The module it comes with is impossible to use.
Funny, I use it all the time.
It's frighteningly effective, in fact. |
Beld Errmon
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ
761
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:01:00 -
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The last time a vehicle caused this much anger they got nerfed into the dropships you see today, enjoy your murder taxis while they last cause soon they'll be like the laser rifle, F'd in the A. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
83
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:07:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:An LAV running into an armored tanked person should be like a sedan running into a deer. Running into a Heavy should be like hitting a moose.
My Lav can take direct Forge Gun shots and survive. You really think hitting a heavy guy will crush our LAV's. Modern day transport cars are meant to crumble when they hit things. It lessons the impact on the passengers. |
Mortedeamor
Ancient Exiles
Negative-Feedback
141
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:09:00 -
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uprising 1.3-1.4 suit balancing armor vs shield tank reworking. maybe a collision nerf 1.4-1.7 ccp is reworking vehicles that includes giving us a greatly requested vehicle lock. this game is a work in progress and ccp can be a bit slow if you cant hack it while its being tweaked then gtfo. vehicles have been in the trashcan for over a year the horizon on which they are balanced is in sight stop crying. and if you cant stop crying you should stop playing dust until its finished and deal with having less sp than everyone who stuck with it |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T
EoN.
582
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:11:00 -
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I think for the LLAV, it should maybe have a healing AOE of a timer, so it can be driven close to the intended targets without that horrible lock on.
For Vehicle healing the lock on needs to be much simpler also, for tank healing tanks it aint that bad, but drop ships, and there current state, its awful. |
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:46:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:An LAV running into an armored tanked person should be like a sedan running into a deer. Running into a Heavy should be like hitting a moose.
So we can tie their bodies to the side of the LAV?
Not seeing a problem so far! |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers
EoN.
680
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Posted - 2013.08.04 11:56:00 -
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all they really need to do is decrease the lock on time for the curren LLAV infantry repair tools and add a WP reward for them. Those things are rediculous, make the person you are repairing invincible.
They are also great for repairing the tanks on the field as well, with a good LLAV a tanker can use a lesser repair module and focus more on offense and using call outs for reps when needed.
The current system of LLAV murder taxi makes pub matched a joke, usually each side has 2-3 of them just driving in circles collecting easy kills because they have the best vehicle tank in the game with almost the same HP count (if you include their amazing passive resistances) as actual tanks, while moving at over 80 meters a second. |
darkiller240
K-A-O-S theory
127
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Posted - 2013.08.04 12:12:00 -
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Khal V'Rani wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Do you really think CCP will set things up so that you roadkill one merc and suddenly your LAV or LLAV will explode?
I'm betting it will be a little/minor damage and a slight reduction in speed if all goes well. So that running people over will become a split second risk/reward decision instead of an automatic HELL YEAH! I imagine collision damage being all but removed or instadeath lavs. Dropships used to be really useful for squishing mercenaries but now they explode if they so much as look at the ground. >_> <_< ...had a dropship land on me on purpose and fly away just a few weeks ago... Didn't catch the pilots name because I was laughing so hard. Props to the pilot. It was awesome flying!
Were you a heavy? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
League of Infamy
503
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:31:00 -
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Ronan Elsword wrote:Modern day transport cars are meant to crumble when they hit things. Modern day transport cars aren't equipped with shields.  |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2275
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:33:00 -
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1.5. |
Ynned Ivanova
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
39
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:37:00 -
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Liking the radial aoe repping. Now give me a cannopy and wp akin to a logi and I would hand in my Taxi badge. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
335
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:49:00 -
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They've already said what they are going to do: in 1.4, they will make it to where unless going at top speed, you will just be brushed aside, but at top speed, you will die. now be quiet., and L2read.
Peace, Aizen  |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
446
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:16:00 -
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All these people say that dropships can't crush people anymore, but I'm just wondering how I've accidentally crushed people with my Python while getting too close to the ground? |
Den-tredje Baron
ParagonX
181
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:22:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:They won't do anything to make the llav useful. It will become another useless vehicle like the scout lav, all forms of dropships, and enforcers tanks.
It'd be like if only one or two weapons were viable for infantry.... Oh wait that is exactly the case.
Why do we play this game?
I've put this idea out here quite a few times.
Why doesn't CCP rework the LLAV rep tool to be an AOE rep tool instead of this "hey stand still for 3-5 secs and i'll see if i can keep this square on you and THEN !! i can rep you" winky wanky rep tool it got.
Changing it to work with an AOE effect will basically just mean that it'll be a very tanky triage nanohive on wheels.
^^ COME ON !! isn't this an awesome idea !! ^^ |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
2870
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Posted - 2013.08.04 18:38:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Yeah, it totally cant be used to repair things in a support role like logistics is designed for Uhhh, it really can't. The module it comes with is impossible to use.
Tell that to the people I see activating it on their passenger when he hops out so that he can gun down everyone who comes near him while having near-invulnerability until the cycles run out. |
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