I used to be able to play Dust all day in the Chromosome build and that was using a Scout suit. Back when Scouts didn't have super speed and could run around without being hit, when aiming was at it's best. I still managed to find fun and joy in playing Dust using a AR at that.

Now...I play a few hours IF Teamplayers is on. The game isn't even worth soloing at all. The shooting is just god awful now. I am getting to the point that even if all the Teamplayers were on I am still finding myself wanting to even waste anymore time on this game. As it stands right now for me I would rather NOT play this game at all than play it with Teddybears and smurfs. I would rather AFK and earn nearly as much SPs and ISK as a person playing the full game and losing suits while I don't lose a dime.

The whole I get fatter when I jump and sprint method, that is also getting old. I understand it's a smurf mechanic to help the Eve players attempt to be relevant. This game is nothing more than a simple man's "shooter" It's made for the guy who doesn't know how to play a shooter. It has semi auto grenade launchers. Kamehameha guns that 1 shot all infanty and can only be used with a suit that is built to take at least 30-40 bullets consecutive. People complain about the most basic gun (AR) I mean cmon.

One of the most effective tactics other than the Kamehameha is just driving around aimlessly running people over.....The game has potential....I think this word potential is getting blown out to be something amazing. A bum on the side of the streets has potential. That is pretty much what Dust is to the console world of shooters. The bum game who couldn't do anything right and ultimately should just be moved to PC already. Most the guys who are competitive at this game are KB/M players anyway there is really no need for this game to remain on Playstation or the console world(Sony fanboy so see Xbox as my enemy and I wouldn't wish this game on even them) I have a pretty high tolerance for failure too(Been playing the Socom series and Socom hasn't been good since Socom3 Combined Assault and I been playing the whole series Confrontation and Socom4 which were horrible)

At the current direction this game is heading, on the broken road that it's clearly on. I really don't see much potential at all. Anybody can create a bedazzled image of a successful future. To put in a motto everybody can relate to. "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?" It takes 2-4 months for anything worthy of mentioning to happen. At this rate the game will not be balanced for another 2-3 years. IF this game makes it through the test of time and stays on console, this game honestly won't be worth playing till it's on Playstation4 in 2-3 years.

"Dust may technically be free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time." Gametrailers Review (Which was dead on)

I didn't even mention the whole "Live with your decisions" motto. I think this is a joke when today you make a decision and 2-4 months from the time you made that decision it can get completely destroyed. Honestly even IF respecs were given I wouldn't even know if I would want to spec into anything because IF you spec into anything that is effective it will only get changed in the future anyway. If you spec into something that is weak you are looking at being irrelevant for about 6-10 months depending on how long it takes CCP to just nerf everything else and give you that buff.


I feel the method CCP does right now is not working and isn't ever gonna work. It really feels like every time they nerf something they buff something else. Creating a never ending paradox of FoTM (which honestly I think this is the plan to keep selling boosters and opens up future paid for respecs) A simple method to this that would actually be positive would be just keep nerfing everything no buffs till everything is eventually weak and that would create balance. Most "good" players just spec and when their build becomes broken or worthless they stay away from the game and AFK farm till the day where their weapon is strong again or have the AFK SP built to spec into something else.

I used to be able to play Dust all day in the Chromosome build and that was using a Scout suit. Back when Scouts didn't have super speed and could run around without being hit, when aiming was at it's best. I still managed to find fun and joy in playing Dust using a AR at that.

Now...I play a few hours IF Teamplayers is on. The game isn't even worth soloing at all. The shooting is just god awful now. I am getting to the point that even if all the Teamplayers were on I am still finding myself wanting to even waste anymore time on this game. As it stands right now for me I would rather NOT play this game at all than play it with Teddybears and smurfs. I would rather AFK and earn nearly as much SPs and ISK as a person playing the full game and losing suits while I don't lose a dime.

The whole I get fatter when I jump and sprint method, that is also getting old. I understand it's a smurf mechanic to help the Eve players attempt to be relevant. This game is nothing more than a simple man's "shooter" It's made for the guy who doesn't know how to play a shooter. It has semi auto grenade launchers. Kamehameha guns that 1 shot all infanty and can only be used with a suit that is built to take at least 30-40 bullets consecutive. People complain about the most basic gun (AR) I mean cmon.

One of the most effective tactics other than the Kamehameha is just driving around aimlessly running people over.....The game has potential....I think this word potential is getting blown out to be something amazing. A bum on the side of the streets has potential. That is pretty much what Dust is to the console world of shooters. The bum game who couldn't do anything right and ultimately should just be moved to PC already. Most the guys who are competitive at this game are KB/M players anyway there is really no need for this game to remain on Playstation or the console world(Sony fanboy so see Xbox as my enemy and I wouldn't wish this game on even them) I have a pretty high tolerance for failure too(Been playing the Socom series and Socom hasn't been good since Socom3 Combined Assault and I been playing the whole series Confrontation and Socom4 which were horrible)

At the current direction this game is heading, on the broken road that it's clearly on. I really don't see much potential at all. Anybody can create a bedazzled image of a successful future. To put in a motto everybody can relate to. "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?" It takes 2-4 months for anything worthy of mentioning to happen. At this rate the game will not be balanced for another 2-3 years. IF this game makes it through the test of time and stays on console, this game honestly won't be worth playing till it's on Playstation4 in 2-3 years.

"Dust may technically be free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time." Gametrailers Review (Which was dead on)

I didn't even mention the whole "Live with your decisions" motto. I think this is a joke when today you make a decision and 2-4 months from the time you made that decision it can get completely destroyed. Honestly even IF respecs were given I wouldn't even know if I would want to spec into anything because IF you spec into anything that is effective it will only get changed in the future anyway. If you spec into something that is weak you are looking at being irrelevant for about 6-10 months depending on how long it takes CCP to just nerf everything else and give you that buff.


I feel the method CCP does right now is not working and isn't ever gonna work. It really feels like every time they nerf something they buff something else. Creating a never ending paradox of FoTM (which honestly I think this is the plan to keep selling boosters and opens up future paid for respecs) A simple method to this that would actually be positive would be just keep nerfing everything no buffs till everything is eventually weak and that would create balance. Most "good" players just spec and when their build becomes broken or worthless they stay away from the game and AFK farm till the day where their weapon is strong again or have the AFK SP built to spec into something else.

We need PVE

We need PVE

Absolutely this. Even 'bad' PVE would keep people entertained for a few months. And just face it, would be hard to best 'Pubstomps' for a ****** game so PVE would win by default.

As much as I like the idea of drones, fighting back a Sansha's invasion (NPC people rather than just drones) would be pretty special.

People who think PVE will fix a FPS game... need to go back to EVE or WOW forums your not helping here.


why there is a militia forge gun... no sane person would ever know...

Why the mass driver does silly no damage on 200 shield but will 1 shot 300 armor... or why a grenade launcher's splash damage affects the user for a decreased damage percentage, different to any practical use of that gun type ever in any FPS.. no sane person would know.

Why make a 1 shot mass AOE weapon(plasma cannon) that does no splash and has no hit detection and is broken out of the gate?

Why continue to allow people to spend 95% of their time playing in the "red line" and not penalize them. 2-5 minute counter to 0% damage, 10mins no match rewards. 5 min's of no control's input and kicked from match.

With a dynamic map creation process why is EVERYONE bored with the maps? WHO THE HELL ASKED FOR A TINY BRIDGE TO FIGHT ON?! i thought we all wanted a MASSIVE pyramid in the center... bridge??

Who is CCP even making this game for? this is a free game not "EVE" where u pay a subscription, and CCP nerf's something you have to get over it. FPS players just won't take it, they will just leave and go invest their time into something else.

They continue to give us stuff they haven't mentioned, we haven't asked for or even mentioned or complained about. Example;

- The increased "red line" area's in Map's. Who even complained they where not big enough? i think all the argument's was to making them smaller. and the ONE map that red line was an issue didn't even get a intelligent look at (Pipe map)

-Logi LAV BUFF, how did they even touch the health of this already strong vehicle and not give it an ability to GAIN war points from doing its PURPOSE repairing infantry/structures/vehicles. And buffing vehicles health and nerfing AV grenade tracking is the double buff example they seem overly fond of in their shortsighted creation to action process.

-LAV sound. i remember logging on after patch and thinking "they sound badass"... the problem isyo u seriously cant hear even a full out roaring motor at all in the sound registry.... till its on top of you.

Seriously could go on for a while.. its sad but DUST is slowly becoming a filler game you play for an hour and wonder if there was something better you could of done with your time.

We need PVE

Sorry sunshine, close but no cigar. Even 'hardcore' shooters need a break, and that is often PVE. A change of pace, or more content, whatever you want to call it.

Even EVE which is primarily targeted at PVP players, has a large and extremely popular NPC component.

Yes, all those problems you mentioned are a problem, however if the game had more, and more interesting, things to do, they would be slightly more bearable while getting fixed.

ANY multiplayer FPS game that has stood the test of time, FPS games still played in international competitive leagues focused on being a FPS when they called them self's one. How many balancing attempts did Counter-strike need? Quake?

We all played this game with less content in beta, and there was a majesty about the game that would pull u in for hours if not the entire day if not careful. It's not bitter vet disease that is causing the drop in activity, despite the troll consensus.

Those games you listed were popularized on PC. Console is a whole new world. Console players will not wait a decade.

And you kind of bare your EVE noobish side by that comment. Its a PVP based game.. the player driven content, the stories, faction warfare, even "safe security space" isn't safe from PVP, and being ganked.