DUST Search - Lost that loving feeling?

Mary Sedillo wrote:

XeroTheBigBoss wrote:

I used to be able to play Dust all day in the Chromosome build and that was using a Scout suit. Back when Scouts didn't have super speed and could run around without being hit, when aiming was at it's best. I still managed to find fun and joy in playing Dust using a AR at that.

Now...I play a few hours IF Teamplayers is on. The game isn't even worth soloing at all. The shooting is just god awful now. I am getting to the point that even if all the Teamplayers were on I am still finding myself wanting to even waste anymore time on this game. As it stands right now for me I would rather NOT play this game at all than play it with Teddybears and smurfs. I would rather AFK and earn nearly as much SPs and ISK as a person playing the full game and losing suits while I don't lose a dime.

The whole I get fatter when I jump and sprint method, that is also getting old. I understand it's a smurf mechanic to help the Eve players attempt to be relevant. This game is nothing more than a simple man's "shooter" It's made for the guy who doesn't know how to play a shooter. It has semi auto grenade launchers. Kamehameha guns that 1 shot all infanty and can only be used with a suit that is built to take at least 30-40 bullets consecutive. People complain about the most basic gun (AR) I mean cmon.

One of the most effective tactics other than the Kamehameha is just driving around aimlessly running people over.....The game has potential....I think this word potential is getting blown out to be something amazing. A bum on the side of the streets has potential. That is pretty much what Dust is to the console world of shooters. The bum game who couldn't do anything right and ultimately should just be moved to PC already. Most the guys who are competitive at this game are KB/M players anyway there is really no need for this game to remain on Playstation or the console world(Sony fanboy so see Xbox as my enemy and I wouldn't wish this game on even them) I have a pretty high tolerance for failure too(Been playing the Socom series and Socom hasn't been good since Socom3 Combined Assault and I been playing the whole series Confrontation and Socom4 which were horrible)

At the current direction this game is heading, on the broken road that it's clearly on. I really don't see much potential at all. Anybody can create a bedazzled image of a successful future. To put in a motto everybody can relate to. "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?" It takes 2-4 months for anything worthy of mentioning to happen. At this rate the game will not be balanced for another 2-3 years. IF this game makes it through the test of time and stays on console, this game honestly won't be worth playing till it's on Playstation4 in 2-3 years.

"Dust may technically be free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time." Gametrailers Review (Which was dead on)

This myth of AFK isk/sp farming is a joke. They make hardly any SP or ISK doing it. Not worth it and not a huge problem.


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XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 762	Posted - 2013.08.03 23:33:00 - [1] - Quote I used to be able to play Dust all day in the Chromosome build and that was using a Scout suit. Back when Scouts didn't have super speed and could run around without being hit, when aiming was at it's best. I still managed to find fun and joy in playing Dust using a AR at that. Now...I play a few hours IF Teamplayers is on. The game isn't even worth soloing at all. The shooting is just god awful now. I am getting to the point that even if all the Teamplayers were on I am still finding myself wanting to even waste anymore time on this game. As it stands right now for me I would rather NOT play this game at all than play it with Teddybears and smurfs. I would rather AFK and earn nearly as much SPs and ISK as a person playing the full game and losing suits while I don't lose a dime. The whole I get fatter when I jump and sprint method, that is also getting old. I understand it's a smurf mechanic to help the Eve players attempt to be relevant. This game is nothing more than a simple man's "shooter" It's made for the guy who doesn't know how to play a shooter. It has semi auto grenade launchers. Kamehameha guns that 1 shot all infanty and can only be used with a suit that is built to take at least 30-40 bullets consecutive. People complain about the most basic gun (AR) I mean cmon. One of the most effective tactics other than the Kamehameha is just driving around aimlessly running people over.....The game has potential....I think this word potential is getting blown out to be something amazing. A bum on the side of the streets has potential. That is pretty much what Dust is to the console world of shooters. The bum game who couldn't do anything right and ultimately should just be moved to PC already. Most the guys who are competitive at this game are KB/M players anyway there is really no need for this game to remain on Playstation or the console world(Sony fanboy so see Xbox as my enemy and I wouldn't wish this game on even them) I have a pretty high tolerance for failure too(Been playing the Socom series and Socom hasn't been good since Socom3 Combined Assault and I been playing the whole series Confrontation and Socom4 which were horrible) At the current direction this game is heading, on the broken road that it's clearly on. I really don't see much potential at all. Anybody can create a bedazzled image of a successful future. To put in a motto everybody can relate to. "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?" It takes 2-4 months for anything worthy of mentioning to happen. At this rate the game will not be balanced for another 2-3 years. IF this game makes it through the test of time and stays on console, this game honestly won't be worth playing till it's on Playstation4 in 2-3 years. "Dust may technically be free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time." Gametrailers Review (Which was dead on)
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 762	Posted - 2013.08.03 23:43:00 - [2] - Quote I didn't even mention the whole "Live with your decisions" motto. I think this is a joke when today you make a decision and 2-4 months from the time you made that decision it can get completely destroyed. Honestly even IF respecs were given I wouldn't even know if I would want to spec into anything because IF you spec into anything that is effective it will only get changed in the future anyway. If you spec into something that is weak you are looking at being irrelevant for about 6-10 months depending on how long it takes CCP to just nerf everything else and give you that buff. I feel the method CCP does right now is not working and isn't ever gonna work. It really feels like every time they nerf something they buff something else. Creating a never ending paradox of FoTM (which honestly I think this is the plan to keep selling boosters and opens up future paid for respecs) A simple method to this that would actually be positive would be just keep nerfing everything no buffs till everything is eventually weak and that would create balance. Most "good" players just spec and when their build becomes broken or worthless they stay away from the game and AFK farm till the day where their weapon is strong again or have the AFK SP built to spec into something else.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 767	Posted - 2013.08.04 00:26:00 - [3] - Quote Well I see people always saying you are QQing but you don't offer any advice or ways for them to fix the problem. This is game design101 but just in case they funded a game company and have no idea how to make a game I have gave a couple of really great suggestions. If you nerf everything down it still creates total balance. When you nerf weapons for the love of Christ STOP buffing something else creating a FoTM. The get fatter while sprint thing simply fix it! The whole creating schemes to get our money if you truly create a good game people will want to give you money or feel you have earned their money. You shouldn't have to keep nerfing and buffing creating cash traps. Stick to ONE thing, prioritize! Fix the content you already have THAN work on newer content. Pick a project and invest all employees till the problem is solved!
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 776	Posted - 2013.08.04 04:35:00 - [4] - Quote Glad to know I am not the only one. Thank you to the few who have voiced opinions so I don't feel like I am a odd man out. I was beginning to think that my passion was truly lost so I was making up negative images about the game but seems like others are starting to not wanna be on this long drawn out adventure to POSSIBLY get greener fields. CCP definitely has gone further than deserved off the word potential.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 777	Posted - 2013.08.04 05:10:00 - [5] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Karazantor wrote: Sorry sunshine, close but no cigar. Even 'hardcore' shooters need a break, and that is often PVE. A change of pace, or more content, whatever you want to call it. Even EVE which is primarily targeted at PVP players, has a large and extremely popular NPC component. Yes, all those problems you mentioned are a problem, however if the game had more, and more interesting, things to do, they would be slightly more bearable while getting fixed. ANY multiplayer FPS game that has stood the test of time, FPS games still played in international competitive leagues focused on being a FPS when they called them self's one. How many balancing attempts did Counter-strike need? Quake? We all played this game with less content in beta, and there was a majesty about the game that would pull u in for hours if not the entire day if not careful. It's not bitter vet disease that is causing the drop in activity, despite the troll consensus. Those games you listed were popularized on PC. Console is a whole new world. Console players will not wait a decade.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 778	Posted - 2013.08.04 05:43:00 - [6] - Quote Sorry I can't hear you at the back of the bus.....
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 781	Posted - 2013.08.04 06:30:00 - [7] - Quote HYENAKILLER X wrote: You started by saying teamplayers are gone and never on. That sucks if your guys arent on. But to me your attitude is wrong. Everytime I come to forums or games I want to fight. I want to confront and argue. I am not online to make friends as much as I am looking for rivals. Beat the enemy, best in squad, best on team, best in game, best getting proto stomped. If you arent going to fight and compete thats sad. As far as blaming the aim mechanic I know for a fact the second a true logi is following me with high specd repair gun its like I am shooting at elephants. When I get my logi suit all of you are ******. come at me. Who are you talking to? Where did it ever say Team players are gone and never on?
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 783	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:13:00 - [8] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Agree with the OP, in the beta we where all excited about the corp system, interaction with eve, manage skill point and isk, PC all of this are great, sadly they just failed in core mechanic like aiming, server lag, few maps, incentive to own district in PC, weapon balancing, matchmaking i know lot of this is said,but im a bit sad, i liked the idea of the game and its unique game design Note: i miss chrome :( I honestly no horse playing around miss Chromosome. I just think it was a better game. Classic Gameplay over graphics example right there. We were beta testing something for one year than when the game was released it was a completely different product that we didn't test.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 785	Posted - 2013.08.04 11:56:00 - [9] - Quote Morathi III wrote: Mortedeamor wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: I didn't even mention the whole "Live with your decisions" motto. I think this is a joke when today you make a decision and 2-4 months from the time you made that decision it can get completely destroyed. Honestly even IF respecs were given I wouldn't even know if I would want to spec into anything because IF you spec into anything that is effective it will only get changed in the future anyway. If you spec into something that is weak you are looking at being irrelevant for about 6-10 months depending on how long it takes CCP to just nerf everything else and give you that buff. I feel the method CCP does right now is not working and isn't ever gonna work. It really feels like every time they nerf something they buff something else. Creating a never ending paradox of FoTM (which honestly I think this is the plan to keep selling boosters and opens up future paid for respecs) A simple method to this that would actually be positive would be just keep nerfing everything no buffs till everything is eventually weak and that would create balance. Most "good" players just spec and when their build becomes broken or worthless they stay away from the game and AFK farm till the day where their weapon is strong again or have the AFK SP built to spec into something else. um amarian logi here that would be a 3 month wait lol and the end result looks at cal logi roflmao pets my massdriver and flux belt Nah im agree with Xeros, if you buff or nerf a suit a module or a gun, the skill point need to be give back for everybody, if you like the change just to put back the SP in, if you dont like you can spend elsewhere, it is not the player fault but CCP one, i say this and i have 0 sp in callogi and Flaylock It's not really the CalLogi suit. I mean I sill do decent in the PC matches. 40CPU is steep I will have another suit soon. I just don't see why we can't have frequent Respecs. It would solve everything. One you could find all the FoTM and nerf everything (NOT BUFF, NERF) till you create total balance. This is advantage #1. #2 You allow people to test and find all the weapons and FoTM one after another. #3 You keep people exciting till the game is where it needs to be. Let's be honest Dust is nowhere near where it needs to be for a released product. By implementing the MAG respec system it could serve as a temporary function till all suits are out and total balance is created. OR people will have to keep specing over 2M SP for a new suit like I am almost completed doing.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 790	Posted - 2013.08.04 21:28:00 - [10] - Quote Mary Sedillo wrote: XeroTheBigBoss wrote: I used to be able to play Dust all day in the Chromosome build and that was using a Scout suit. Back when Scouts didn't have super speed and could run around without being hit, when aiming was at it's best. I still managed to find fun and joy in playing Dust using a AR at that. Now...I play a few hours IF Teamplayers is on. The game isn't even worth soloing at all. The shooting is just god awful now. I am getting to the point that even if all the Teamplayers were on I am still finding myself wanting to even waste anymore time on this game. As it stands right now for me I would rather NOT play this game at all than play it with Teddybears and smurfs. I would rather AFK and earn nearly as much SPs and ISK as a person playing the full game and losing suits while I don't lose a dime. The whole I get fatter when I jump and sprint method, that is also getting old. I understand it's a smurf mechanic to help the Eve players attempt to be relevant. This game is nothing more than a simple man's "shooter" It's made for the guy who doesn't know how to play a shooter. It has semi auto grenade launchers. Kamehameha guns that 1 shot all infanty and can only be used with a suit that is built to take at least 30-40 bullets consecutive. People complain about the most basic gun (AR) I mean cmon. One of the most effective tactics other than the Kamehameha is just driving around aimlessly running people over.....The game has potential....I think this word potential is getting blown out to be something amazing. A bum on the side of the streets has potential. That is pretty much what Dust is to the console world of shooters. The bum game who couldn't do anything right and ultimately should just be moved to PC already. Most the guys who are competitive at this game are KB/M players anyway there is really no need for this game to remain on Playstation or the console world(Sony fanboy so see Xbox as my enemy and I wouldn't wish this game on even them) I have a pretty high tolerance for failure too(Been playing the Socom series and Socom hasn't been good since Socom3 Combined Assault and I been playing the whole series Confrontation and Socom4 which were horrible) At the current direction this game is heading, on the broken road that it's clearly on. I really don't see much potential at all. Anybody can create a bedazzled image of a successful future. To put in a motto everybody can relate to. "You can talk the talk but can you walk the walk?" It takes 2-4 months for anything worthy of mentioning to happen. At this rate the game will not be balanced for another 2-3 years. IF this game makes it through the test of time and stays on console, this game honestly won't be worth playing till it's on Playstation4 in 2-3 years. "Dust may technically be free, but it isn't worth a minute of your time." Gametrailers Review (Which was dead on) This myth of AFK isk/sp farming is a joke. They make hardly any SP or ISK doing it. Not worth it and not a huge problem. Do you even Dust?

XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 796	Posted - 2013.08.05 02:17:00 - [11] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Oh look, another "Dust is dead" bitching thread. Haven't seen one of these in a while. Try reading the thread first. K thx.