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Paran Tadec
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1262
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:44:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Why is it a bunch of whiney EoN bitches in here crying about the MD. The thing has hardly any ammo, and you have to arc it for get a hit at all but close up. If you let me get close enough to you to 2 shot you with a flux md combo you deserved to die in the first place.
spoken like a true skilless mass driver user LOL IF U LET FLAYLOCK GET 2 CLOSE ITS UR FAULT HURRRR DURRR
Oh I'm sorry, I have to arc my shots, and it takes a second between each one..... Its also the only gun I carry on my support logi setup....
If you can't kill a min logi with an AR in the 3-4 seconds it takes for me to kill you, I feel bad for you son. |
Paran Tadec
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1262
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:45:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:King Kobrah wrote: LOL IF U LET FLAYLOCK GET 2 CLOSE ITS UR FAULT HURRRR DURRR
Well, duh... you gonna cry about shotguns next?
Shotguns are fine, its called backing the kitten up. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
378
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:03:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity"- Abraham Lincoln
OP, the game should be balanced around assault rifles, and when you have a weapon that requires little skills to use and throws off aim each time it hits, that creates problems for people who are actually trying to aim a gun.
flux and MD is even worse of a skilless gimmick. Yes giving up my ability to use AV nades is a small thing
What has this world came to when NF are the good guys? |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
944
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:03:00 -
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yeah i'm sure it's really easy to kill someone who's shooting rapidly at your feet, taking chunks of your HP, and throwing off your aim with each hit....while using an assault rifle that doesn't register 30%+ of it's bullets
clearly mass driver users are the epitome of skill |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
378
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:09:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:yeah i'm sure it's really easy to kill someone who's shooting rapidly at your feet, taking chunks of your HP, and throwing off your aim with each hit....while using an assault rifle that doesn't register 30%+ of it's bullets
clearly mass driver users are the epitome of skill What AR are you using? Mine works fine, and so does my MD.
It's Hilarious You use this weapon you're evil! You're a (Insert weapon name) using scrub! Forum warriors battle for three weeks... |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
300
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:12:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:I do agree the nades need to be reworked....specifically the flux nade as it ignores objects between you and the nade and it does not have the 5 second fuse like it should....so its virtually a contact nade for shields. I actually think it is OK that it hits through objects... Only real counter to the *****es that hide Remote explosives and Uplinks in walls.
KORBAH wrote:while using an assault rifle that doesn't register 30%+ of it's bullets Sounds more like a CCP/AR problem than a MD problem :D |
steadyhand amarr
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
1024
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:18:00 -
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Claps doc you have a wonderful thread people please carry on. My view the AR is the every man guns ok at everything but bill at nothing.
Where as the mass drive is I'm going to take point and u can't stop me. But if u engage from range here is the white flag :-) |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers EoN.
301
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:25:00 -
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ReG's specific suggestion to limit the clip size to 4-5 acts as a "4-6 second burst DPS" nerf and a sustained DPS nerf. It hurts those that camp on top of buildings and spam fire down on people most. This is correct, but the better way to fix it would be to increase reload time (And increase damage, as sustained DPS is very low as it stands on the gun)
Most people in the two threads that are complaining about the MD are concerned about it's "1-3 second burst" with flux gernades. I feel like this is also a slight issue, as gernades are overpowered.
If we limit the clip size, nerf flux and locust, make splash have a falloff over radiusdistance, and increase MD splash damage, I think we will have a perfectly balanced weapon. |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
3
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:32:00 -
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Mamertine Son wrote:
Lord help us (if)when they revive the laser rifle but for now we should be careful not to murder diversity in our crusade for balance.
Correction: Lord help you all IF/when they give back the hmgs range and damage |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
378
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:32:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Claps doc you have a wonderful thread people please carry on. My view the AR is the every man guns ok at everything but bill at nothing.
Where as the mass drive is I'm going to take point and u can't stop me. But if u engage from range here is the white flag :-) I say that the AR is fine till the other variants come then it will need it's range lowered and DPS boosted |
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Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
379
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:46:00 -
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How about we fix armor tanking and not bash MD's?
Shields need to watch out for fluxes they have speed, fast regen (get regulators), the ability to greatly Buffer tank without severe disadvantages so... |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
639
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:53:00 -
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"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades do not need even need to be cooked and the MD does not require aim |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
848
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:54:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR < Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The assault rifle... cough 60 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that AR will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is AR+Flux not broken? Flux nades have do need to be cooked and the AR does not need aiming skills
FYP |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
380
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:55:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades do not need even need to be cooked and the MD does not require aim What do you run? maybe you fitting is at fault? or are you all perfect? |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
3
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:58:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades have do need to be cooked and the MD does not need aiming skills
although i am not in support of using mass drivers as they infuriate me when they kill me, an immediate argument we can bring up is how is shield tanking vs armor tanking not broken
shield tanking has no significant drawbacks, no penalties for doing so. not to mention the lack of anti shield weapons
armor tanking has several, major movement speed penalties, slow to NO armor regen without sacrificing an armor slot to a repper, most of the weapons do more damage to armor rather than shield and so on |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
639
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:01:00 -
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Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades have do need to be cooked and the MD does not need aiming skills although i am not in support of using mass drivers as they infuriate me when they kill me, an immediate argument we can bring up is how is shield tanking vs armor tanking not broken shield tanking has no significant drawbacks, no penalties for doing so. not to mention the lack of anti shield weapons armor tanking has several, major movement speed penalties, slow to NO armor regen without sacrificing an armor slot to a repper, most of the weapons do more damage to armor rather than shield and so on
Have you ever played a good Armour tanker?
Armour can DPS
Armour can roid mode with triage hives
shall I go on? |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
6
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:03:00 -
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its as simple as throwing a adv/proto locus nade in on that nanohive and said armor tanker is obliterated |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
380
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:04:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades have do need to be cooked and the MD does not need aiming skills although i am not in support of using mass drivers as they infuriate me when they kill me, an immediate argument we can bring up is how is shield tanking vs armor tanking not broken shield tanking has no significant drawbacks, no penalties for doing so. not to mention the lack of anti shield weapons armor tanking has several, major movement speed penalties, slow to NO armor regen without sacrificing an armor slot to a repper, most of the weapons do more damage to armor rather than shield and so on Have you ever played a good Armour tanker? Armour can DPS Armour can roid mode with triage hives shall I go on? really? 17% more damage? you can regen fast as hell take cover for 10 secs back to full health |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
848
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:06:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades have do need to be cooked and the MD does not need aiming skills although i am not in support of using mass drivers as they infuriate me when they kill me, an immediate argument we can bring up is how is shield tanking vs armor tanking not broken shield tanking has no significant drawbacks, no penalties for doing so. not to mention the lack of anti shield weapons armor tanking has several, major movement speed penalties, slow to NO armor regen without sacrificing an armor slot to a repper, most of the weapons do more damage to armor rather than shield and so on Have you ever played a good Armour tanker? Armour can DPS Armour can roid mode with triage hives shall I go on? really? 17% more damage? you can regen fast as hell take cover for 10 secs back to full health I'd just say let's give up on the AR scrub.
I doubt he'd go positive without his crutch so let him have it.
Obviously he needs something to feel good about himself. |
Aquinarius Zoltanus
0uter.Heaven EoN.
232
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:14:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades do not need even need to be cooked and the MD does not require aim
Yup, you've definitely got it backwards. We're fine with how the MD vs. AR game is now. You're the one who's QQ'ing and crying all over the forums about how you got owned by a Mass Driver. |
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Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
383
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:17:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades do not need even need to be cooked and the MD does not require aim Yup, you've definitely got it backwards. We're fine with how the MD vs. AR game is now. You're the one who's QQ'ing and crying all over the forums about how you got owned by a Mass Driver. He's probably Trolling.
Regnyum, Let SoTa troll, you weren't meant to troll. |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
9
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:22:00 -
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AR scrubs are always going to be AR scrubs, if they have their way dust will become a repetitive cod ripoff |
BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG
Expert Intervention Caldari State
348
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:24:00 -
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Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: if they have their way dust will become a repetitive cod ripoff
CCP needs to figure out how aiming and moving works first so I doubt it. |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
9
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:26:00 -
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BOOOGERTRON BORTZORG wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote: if they have their way dust will become a repetitive cod ripoff CCP needs to figure out how aiming and moving works first so I doubt it.
extremely valid point but you can see the resemblance already |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
639
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:26:00 -
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Aquinarius Zoltanus wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:"KDR > Everything" Michael Jackson
It is amazing at the amount of tears produced, when someone merely suggest a tweak this broken weapon.
The mass driver... cough 6 round noob tube, is by far one stupidest weapons implemented in Dust 514. Furthermore, the fact that MD will screw up your aim is ridiculous. Furthermore, how is MD+Flux not broken? Flux nades do not need even need to be cooked and the MD does not require aim Yup, you've definitely got it backwards. We're fine with how the MD vs. AR game is now. You're the one who's QQ'ing and crying all over the forums about how you got owned by a Mass Driver.
Funny coming from Outer Heaven |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
10
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:31:00 -
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heres an absurdly easy fix to the ARs being OP statement, just remove them. that instantly requires people to gain actual skill in a weapon that isnt a win button
edit- let the AR user hate flow in |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
944
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:43:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:yeah i'm sure it's really easy to kill someone who's shooting rapidly at your feet, taking chunks of your HP, and throwing off your aim with each hit....while using an assault rifle that doesn't register 30%+ of it's bullets
clearly mass driver users are the epitome of skill What AR are you using? Mine works fine, and so does my MD. It's Hilarious You use this weapon you're evil! You're a (Insert weapon name) using scrub! Forum warriors battle for three weeks... i have a duvolle with level 5 sharpshooter and a 6400 DPI mouse.
i KNOW i'm not missing my shots, especially when I get hit markers on someone with 5 HP left and they don't die. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
386
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:43:00 -
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Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:heres an absurdly easy fix to the ARs being OP statement, just remove them. that instantly requires people to gain actual skill in a weapon that isnt a win button
edit- let the AR user hate flow in Make the AR become less accurate (Even with ADS) the longer it fires, lower it's range (20 meters optimal 50 effective), increase DPS make the normal AR breach weapon and make a stabilized variant that takes more PG/CPU but has the stats of the current one but is more accurate but still loses accuracy through continous fire. |
Killar-12
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
386
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:45:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Killar-12 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:yeah i'm sure it's really easy to kill someone who's shooting rapidly at your feet, taking chunks of your HP, and throwing off your aim with each hit....while using an assault rifle that doesn't register 30%+ of it's bullets
clearly mass driver users are the epitome of skill What AR are you using? Mine works fine, and so does my MD. It's Hilarious You use this weapon you're evil! You're a (Insert weapon name) using scrub! Forum warriors battle for three weeks... i have a duvolle with level 5 sharpshooter and a 6400 DPI mouse. i KNOW i'm not missing my shots, especially when I get hit markers on someone with 5 HP left and they don't die. Internet Connection? How often do you DC? I had a shitty modem and replacing it made my hit detection get better. |
Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
849
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:45:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Dimitri Rascolovitch wrote:heres an absurdly easy fix to the ARs being OP statement, just remove them. that instantly requires people to gain actual skill in a weapon that isnt a win button
edit- let the AR user hate flow in Make the AR become less accurate (Even with ADS) the longer it fires, lower it's range (20 meters optimal 50 effective), increase DPS make the normal AR breach weapon and make a stabilized variant that takes more PG/CPU but has the stats of the current one but is more accurate but still loses accuracy through continous fire.
Would 80 meters be its Absolute? |
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