BF3 is now free to all with PSN+.

Here is a game i just finished. My squad (Alpha) controlled the whole thing the entire time.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/4/100939885/468299510/

This is the whole reason why DUST should be balanced off those who are actually good at the game.

There's a huge difference in BF3s unlocked weapons and abilities and Dust's.

BF3 is now free to all with PSN+.

Here is a game i just finished. My squad (Alpha) controlled the whole thing the entire time.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/4/100939885/468299510/

This is the whole reason why DUST should be balanced off those who are actually good at the game.

Two different styles of FPS. Dust you can run around with your head cut off and do decent with all the scrubs around and it being a tracker shooter. You can escape a lot of encounters.

BF3 is a twitch shooter - meaning if your enemy sees you your basically dead if you didn't see them first. You can't run out in the open and you have to consider moving slowly more often then quickly.

Two different styles of FPS. Dust you can run around with your head cut off and do decent with all the scrubs around and it being a tracker shooter. You can escape a lot of encounters.

BF3 is a twitch shooter - meaning if your enemy sees you your basically dead if you didn't see them first. You can't run out in the open and you have to consider moving slowly more often then quickly.

I dont think they are that much different from each other really.

What do people do sometimes in DUST when taking corners or being shot at.
*bunny hop*

Why bunny hop?
*harder to hit because twitchy movement.

Yes, this part got me killed plenty of times until I started to move forward slowly, but I am still killed quickly, even when shooting at a hostile, he turns around and take one shot at me and I am dead. I ended up only running from letter to letter to gain points by recapturing the letters. It is not all bad but there is no tuturials or help text as in Dust on how it works when starting a multiplayer game.

If you don't see them as different you should stop giving your opinions on FPS that you clearly know nothing of.

The gameplay modes are essentially the same.
Both feature vehicles with different roles including aircraft.

Both feature builds that tailor to certain modes of game play whether its supporting or attacking.

Explain to me what is so different between the two.

I... already did?

Ones a Twitch Shooter...

The other is Tracker...

There is a singleplayer?

I... already did?

Ones a Twitch Shooter...

The other is Tracker...

The fact its balanced? And every weapon can compete with others at any range as long as you have enough skill?

Two different styles of FPS. Dust you can run around with your head cut off and do decent with all the scrubs around and it being a tracker shooter. You can escape a lot of encounters.

BF3 is a twitch shooter - meaning if your enemy sees you your basically dead if you didn't see them first. You can't run out in the open and you have to consider moving slowly more often then quickly.

Haha, I have to agree, I downloaded BF3 as part of the PSN+ subscription. Never played any BF games before and I must say it is very confusing compared to Dust. It is deffinitely not noob friendly jumping into multiplayer from the start and I have stopped playing it again to go back to Dust. I remember the beginning of Dust being much easier.

EDIT: The instant deaths I get in BF3 is much more frequent than playing in militia vs proto players in Dust.

The fact its balanced? And every weapon can compete with others at any range as long as you have enough skill?

You're so philosophical. please adorn me with more pearls of wisdom.

Two different styles of FPS. Dust you can run around with your head cut off and do decent with all the scrubs around and it being a tracker shooter. You can escape a lot of encounters.

BF3 is a twitch shooter - meaning if your enemy sees you your basically dead if you didn't see them first. You can't run out in the open and you have to consider moving slowly more often then quickly.

The fact its balanced? And every weapon can compete with others at any range as long as you have enough skill?

FAMAS cant compete with AN94 at range, thats the whole reason every weapon in BF3 have specialties, dont just talk crap.
If you give a pro a FAMAS and a noob an AN94 at 100m the noob will still most likely win.

Lol no

I lose out to MGs spamming full auto, with the guy standing with a bipod being useless, when I'm using a semi auto sniper or an AR on semi auto.

DICE doesn't know what balance is. It's Call of Duty: Vehicle Edition. If they wanted to make it stand apart, you wouldn't be bunny hopping all over the place as if you really are playing Call of Duty. It would be more slow paced, moving cover to cover, laying down suppressive fire, instead of being able to beat out someone playing cautiously with an edge, if you're using a pistol.

Want a good example? They nerfed the IR scope to hell because all the Call of Duty campers were complaining they couldn't hide in the grass because it exposed them. It works perfectly well in the campaign/coop.

Select fire bro.

All AR have the same range and damage besides the G3A3.

People dont bunny hop in BF3, they do move cautiously and they do stick to corner/cover

Haha, I have to agree, I downloaded BF3 as part of the PSN+ subscription. Never played any BF games before and I must say it is very confusing compared to Dust. It is deffinitely not noob friendly jumping into multiplayer from the start and I have stopped playing it again to go back to Dust. I remember the beginning of Dust being much easier.

EDIT: The instant deaths I get in BF3 is much more frequent than playing in militia vs proto players in Dust.

no they dont, seriously stop talking out your ass, even with select fire the FAMAS is **** at range because it does **** all damage at any range, all it has going is its 1000ROF with makes it purely good at close range and ok with burst at medium - its still going to lose to that noob with the AN94

http://symthic.com/bf3-weapon-comparison?wep1=FAMAS&attc1=None&wep2=AEK-971&attc2=None < proof you are an idiot.

They have the same range and damage.

uh... you just proved yourself wrong. RoF is way better on one gun with the same stats - which effects DPS, making one stronger.

Re read the argument then come back.

Funny, I thought when I first started dust (open beta) it was much harder then bf3 being a vet coming from that game.

I guess you just have to get used to how the game plays
and before you know it, your getting positive outcomes at the game.

You are right, the difference is what you are used to play before entering a match in BF3 or Dust. I just found it funny that my noob experience with BF3 matches all the complaints about Dust from veteran BF players. I had a long break from FPS games when I started Dust and quickly got into the game.

Now jumping into BF when being used to Dust is very different and I can imagine the same applies the other way around. Dust is very different if you are used to BF and slowly moving ahead and killing with just a few shots.

What bothers me the most with BF3 is that there is no consequences of dying, no loss of game currency. Just respawn and run back to the action. And I destroyed a tank with one shot from my started engineer RPG, are all thanks in BF that easy to destroy? I guess you just respawn and jump into a new tank. And both of my games lasted very long, 41 minutes and 45 minutes, is this normal as well? I ran towards my squads members every time to move around with them but for some unknown reason was the only one that got killed whenever someone opened fire on our 3 man group.

I might give it a try again another time, I was the only noob from what I could see on the player lists where several had stars on their emblems.

BF3 is now free to all with PSN+.

Here is a game i just finished. My squad (Alpha) controlled the whole thing the entire time.
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/4/100939885/468299510/

This is the whole reason why DUST should be balanced off those who are actually good at the game.

BF 3 EVERYONE has about the same health.

Dust there is a disparity between health. That s it. not rocket science.

Also one is more focused on team play and the other is not.


(battlefield has team play)

Oh come on. Me running around with my AR, and going 10+ kills before dying? You can really can solo there.


Not so much in dust, unless your killing scrubs.

I started a new ALT in BF3 the other day ( 1st time i played in the PS3 ) and i was in the top of the score boards after 3 matches..and without a mouse ...You don't have SP gaps in BF3.. so "skills" count for something.

you can kill all the folks you want in rush and conquest, but unless you take the objectives you will lose, so yeah team play matters

Yep. BF3 is more noob friendly than Dust. I use to play BF3 but they stop adding new weapons so I stop playing after armor kill. BF3 can be more fun becauae technically everyone is on even playing fields IMO. Game has variety of; game modes, bigger map (sjcks ass on ps3), can also apply stragety to the game (squad rush, rush, some conquest maps) vehicles and infantry are close to balance. But EA/Dice are more experience at "making" shooters and this is CCP first FPS so, gl to CCP.

tl;dr bf3 and shet is different but bf3>dust

The fact its balanced? And every weapon can compete with others at any range as long as you have enough skill?

I do like BF3, on occasion. I dislike the lack of consequences from dying, dust has spoiled FPS's for me in that regard. And you should try hardcore mode on it, it's definitely the better mode, people take less damage to die so reactions and situational awareness become more important, a single clip and good shooting can go a long way there. I took out 8 people people in 10 seconds once with a bipod MG,good position, and LOS on a bottleneck, bipods are very useful.

ugh armored kill, what a piece of crap that dlc was. the next two were pretty good though. Scavenger mode is quite fun, all you start off with is a pistol. you have to find your weapons and even then they have limited ammo unless you find the ammo crate. the support guys can not give you ammo in scavenger mode. plus the random earthquakes on those maps make it interesting.

Man I love hardcore mode, just to many snipers. Well to many noon snipers who can't snipe in normal modes lol

G3A3> everything else.

*it's only cause your a DEMON with it*