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Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 249	Posted - 2013.07.30 23:24:00 - [1] - Quote I mentioned an idea i had in local chat and people seemed to like it so i'm wondering if there's more people that would support it. First of all, i have to say that i never played EVE, so excuse me if i get some things wrong. Now, most of us will be aware that Drone co-op is coming sometime in the future. CCP discussed it at Fanfest and showed the design for the drones and the drone installations from where they spawn. They also mentioned how it could be that districts in Planetary Conquest would randomly become infected so your Dust corp involved in PC would have a bit of cleaning up to do on the districts they owned which also would give people more things to do with their districts. My idea was that the Drone co-op would be a perfect opportunity to get the Dust/EVE link a much needed overhaul. If these infestations that were hinted by CCP to happen in PC districts were to also happen in planets controlled by EVE corporations, it would open an intersting way to get EVE pilots invested in contracting Dust soldiers to work for them. The system would be setup like this: - Districts have to be in place not only in the current planets but on nullsec planets too. - Ground drone infestations would occur randomly on any (temperate for now) planet containing districts. - Drone infestations in districts where Instant Battles take place would be available to all, designed for single players. - Drone infestations in FW districts would be available to squads made prior to entering battle. - Drone infestations in planets owned by EVE corps would temporarily affect negatively the benefits said corps get from owning that planet. They'd have two options: wait it out or contract mercenaries to clean up the infestation. There would be a lot of specifics to iron out but this could open up some new interactions between both games. There could be EVE corps that would fully work side by side with the mercenaries they contract (i'd hope them to be able to contract specific players) or just open a contract that would appear in Dust for random players to fill and initiate. EVE corps would pay a sum of money to initiate a contract and a major part of that amount would act as a sink with only a fraction ending up getting to Dust players. For example, EVE corp pays 100M ISK, Dust mercs share 1M ISK of loot for the contract. So, that's my idea. Suggestions are appreciated.
Nin Ker Red Star Jr. EoN. 43	Posted - 2013.07.30 23:27:00 - [2] - Quote I like it. Variety is always good.
Palatinate Gravity Prone EoN. 12	Posted - 2013.07.30 23:36:00 - [3] - Quote Good idea. I approve.
BLACK MASK D Ninth Legion Freelance 1	Posted - 2013.07.30 23:48:00 - [4] - Quote at this point to be honest,i just want something to be added to dust so it can be the game i once loved....
Princeps Marcellus Expert Intervention Caldari State 137	Posted - 2013.07.30 23:51:00 - [5] - Quote WANT DRONES. WANT DRONE ROCK MORE.
sly Bandit OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 14	Posted - 2013.07.31 23:01:00 - [6] - Quote 100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million...
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 252	Posted - 2013.07.31 23:04:00 - [7] - Quote sly Bandit wrote: 100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... Crude example, yes, but if EVE corps were to start pumping money into Dust through these Drone co-op contracts without a very high exchange rate, we'd be swimming in money.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 413	Posted - 2013.08.01 00:05:00 - [8] - Quote +1 When you hack a turret it activates it's AI which can shoot enemy players. Yellow turrets could shoot at both teams until hacked. And "drones" could be made quickly by combining RDV with turrets. Both can sense and follow players. Another good idea
Ribbons Allmark CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace 15	Posted - 2013.08.01 00:18:00 - [9] - Quote Very good idea I jist wish everyone who sees this idea and likes it would actually +1 and hit like on the top right of your post because it shows ccp that we think it is relevant
EternalRMG ZionTCD 497	Posted - 2013.08.01 00:26:00 - [10] - Quote +1 Best idea evaaar i have tagged this thread as a favorite, so ill make sure thiss wont die

Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 46	Posted - 2013.08.01 00:59:00 - [11] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: +1 When you hack a turret it activates it's AI which can shoot enemy players. Yellow turrets could shoot at both teams until hacked. And "drones" could be made quickly by combining RDV with turrets. Both can sense and follow players. Another good idea Now that's a twist I wasn't expecting but really like. +1 for you. And +1 for OP for a solid approach to bridge the games.
Palatinate Gravity Prone EoN. 15	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:03:00 - [12] - Quote DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 954	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:09:00 - [13] - Quote Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right?
Seed Dren SyNergy Gaming EoN. 31	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:12:00 - [14] - Quote They already reply to several pve threads saying is going to be a while. So seeing another thread like this just makes me depress.
Visala Telephia Luminous Order of the Prismatic Maiden 0	Posted - 2013.08.01 01:59:00 - [15] - Quote Yagihige wrote: sly Bandit wrote: 100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... Crude example, yes, but if EVE corps were to start pumping money into Dust through these Drone co-op contracts without a very high exchange rate, we'd be swimming in money. All things considered, do you really think that's how things shouldn't be? As an EVE Online player, I can say that I enough money to effortlessly field countless ships that cost far more than anything DUST can begin to touch. I obtain that ISK through a mundane activity called mining, which grants me between 5 and 15 million ISK per ore hold. Far more if I refine said ore. Then even more if I save it up to use in production of things that are more valuable. That DUST doesn't allow direct EVE cashflow is a large part of what is holding the game back, I feel. EVE players lose interest because they can't fit their mercenaries as they had envisioned, DUST players suffer because suddenly PC matches are far out of the hands of anything less than a megacorp, vehicle specced players can barely do what they love due to the cost of losing an HAV or Dropship, and so on. DUST has quick enough ISK sinking that even direct cashflow from EVE wouldn't cause some sort of horrible destabilization of the game, but rather, a use for any corp with extra money sitting around that wants to fund some extra fun or engage in serious military operations. Considering the cost to outfit 16 people with full prototype gear per death, and that most major EVE Alliances are caught up in very negative cashflows during wartime, the only consequence of such a thing is going to be the encouragement of experimentation and a massive increase in player activity, in both public matches and planetary conquest.
EternalRMG ZionTCD 498	Posted - 2013.08.01 15:06:00 - [16] - Quote Cash flow cant be direct, because how easy it is for eve players to get a lot of isk(for us) If it doesnt have some kind of penalty you will see all pun matches being full proto matches becauese some eve char gave them 100million isk
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 47	Posted - 2013.08.01 17:48:00 - [17] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Cash flow cant be direct, because how easy it is for eve players to get a lot of isk(for us) If it doesnt have some kind of penalty you will see all pun matches being full proto matches becauese some eve char gave them 100million isk CCP has said that when they open up dust/eve transfers, money coming to dust is going to be "very heavily taxed" so i have a feeling it'll be near moot to transfer the vast sums of cash to make dusties super wealthy...unless you're a w-space or null-bloc ally...then its just us regular guys that get left outta the action. Still like this idea though. Can we get a blue post just because we like to know its at least been read?
EternalRMG ZionTCD 502	Posted - 2013.08.01 17:50:00 - [18] - Quote Ill bump until i see a blue tag in here
EternalRMG ZionTCD 507	Posted - 2013.08.01 21:45:00 - [19] - Quote Bump
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 2597	Posted - 2013.08.01 22:25:00 - [20] - Quote It's a good idea, but many eve players want nothing to do with us. Annoying as it is, CCP listens to the subscription players first.

Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2333	Posted - 2013.08.01 22:57:00 - [21] - Quote As promised, +1 for a good idea dude ^_^
EternalRMG ZionTCD 508	Posted - 2013.08.01 23:19:00 - [22] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: It's a good idea, but many eve players want nothing to do with us. Annoying as it is, CCP listens to the subscription players first. Mmm, they will want to do stuff with us when they start loosing money What Eve Player are afraid of is being shot from planets, meaning that someone that has paid no money can destroy a sip that took them 6 or more months to guys A.k.a payed money to play
Makuta Miserix Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 163	Posted - 2013.08.01 23:29:00 - [23] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? There is a diference between breaking someone's arm and laying waste too a planet.
EternalRMG ZionTCD 508	Posted - 2013.08.01 23:51:00 - [24] - Quote Makuta Miserix wrote: True Adamance wrote: Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? There is a diference between breaking someone's arm and laying waste too a planet. We could just make a Massive LAV races fest to promote this
Buster Friently Rosen Association 1408	Posted - 2013.08.01 23:54:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? You mean stop paying your subscription fee.... Oh wait.
EternalRMG ZionTCD 508	Posted - 2013.08.02 00:03:00 - [26] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: True Adamance wrote: Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? You mean stop paying your subscription fee.... Oh wait. Better, get eve players to do that for us Oh wait.... they dont like us
Telleth DUST University Ivy League 86	Posted - 2013.08.02 00:26:00 - [27] - Quote +1 I definitely want to see more dust/eve interaction. I would really like to see eve corp1 contract and drop dust corp1 on a planet held by eve corp2. We wreck installations and take some big freaking guns that mess with their stuff, shooting at pos's and such. Then eve corp2 contracts dust corp2 to kick out dust corp1. Course then dust corp2 takes the planet and ransoms eve corp2 for more money before actually giving it back to them. Would be marvelous...
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2336	Posted - 2013.08.02 00:32:00 - [28] - Quote Thanks again for this idea, I've used it to build on an idea of mine, I've posted it here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1130759 and included credit to you, sir.
Khal V'Rani Nephilim Initiative 217	Posted - 2013.08.02 00:41:00 - [29] - Quote Telleth wrote: +1 I definitely want to see more dust/eve interaction. I would really like to see eve corp1 contract and drop dust corp1 on a planet held by eve corp2. We wreck installations and take some big freaking guns that mess with their stuff, shooting at pos's and such. Then eve corp2 contracts dust corp2 to kick out dust corp1. Course then dust corp2 takes the planet and ransoms eve corp2 for more money before actually giving it back to them. Would be marvelous... You, I like the way you think.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. 796	Posted - 2013.08.02 00:57:00 - [30] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? If we are going to riot then it would have to be Gandhi style where we refused to fight and just stood around not killing each other. We would be hippies.

rrune Fenrir's Wolves RUST415 3	Posted - 2013.08.02 03:38:00 - [31] - Quote GREAT IDEA
THE TRAINSPOTTER ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN 56	Posted - 2013.08.02 04:07:00 - [32] - Quote Yagihige wrote: sly Bandit wrote: 100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... Crude example, yes, but if EVE corps were to start pumping money into Dust through these Drone co-op contracts without a very high exchange rate, we'd be swimming in money. swimming in money is such a dream , no one will let you do that
Delilah Judge-Slayer Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2013.08.02 05:00:00 - [33] - Quote sly Bandit wrote: 100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... If eve players pay 100million then 50 million goes to the mercs the other 50 goes to repairing the damages. 100 million is chump change to most capsuleers.
Khal V'Rani Nephilim Initiative 222	Posted - 2013.08.02 05:32:00 - [34] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: True Adamance wrote: Palatinate wrote: DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY breaks own arm Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? If we are going to riot then it would have to be Gandhi style where we refused to fight and just stood around not killing each other. We would be hippies. I still get to shower right? Do I have to eat granola? I'm not a big fan of sandals either. Now about those cigarettes...
Bubba Salaman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2	Posted - 2013.08.02 07:09:00 - [35] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Mmm, they will want to do stuff with us when they start loosing money What Eve Player are afraid of is being shot from planets, meaning that someone that has paid no money can destroy a sip that took them 6 or more months to guys A.k.a payed money to play 6 or more months? As an Eve player, I have to say, your expectations of how much Eve ships cost is grossly exaggerated. The destroyers that we use to orbital bombard dusties can be bought with the money that I get from killing one, maybe two battleship rats(I don't know the exact numbers of the bounty that I get, because I haven't ratted in a long ass time.). You get a free destroyer as a reward for finishing the tutorial. And honestly, orbiting above a planet in low-sec space with your cloak off waiting for the chance to orbital bombard is dangerous enough as it is, no one is going to bring along a ship that they can't replace with an hour's or less worth of work, unless they're idiots. Of course there's idiots out there who are sometimes given access to enormously expensive ships, but part of Eve is learning how to prepare to lose stuff. That being said, I think your first point does have some merit. As an Eve player, right now there's just no point to even interact with Dusties. There's no plus side for the Eve pilots. Now if drones were to take over one of my personal PI colonies, my Eve pilot could single handedly fund a squad of Dusties to go into my colony and flush the drones out. I think Dust was originally going to be fought in PI colonies at first when the colonies were first introduced in Eve, but I think CCP realized that personally owned colonies were just not important enough for thirty people in Dust to fight for just to **** over one Eve pilot's income, so they switched to the district model. However, I could totally see a niche for six player squads accepting contracts from single Eve players for something like 50mil isk or less to go and beat up a bunch of drones for a bit. Hell, if a drone infestation was affecting my PI colonies, I would probably give you orbital bombardments just to help you out, I make 95% of my income from PI. I can't let drones hurt that.
castba Penguin's March 45	Posted - 2013.08.02 07:51:00 - [36] - Quote Being in a small, but enjoyable corp, I like the sound of going in with a crew if 4-6 and cleaning out individual PI for a price. Maybe there could be a contract listing board in dust where eve players post contracts for dust teams to accept with a time frame for completion.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 414	Posted - 2013.08.02 09:31:00 - [37] - Quote Planetary interaction (PI) in EVE is little attractive because you have to maintain it manually. You set up extractors and you have to restart them periodically. You have to adjust their position from time to time as hotspots tend to "migrate". It's boring. And it looks boring. It could look more like C&C, or Warcraft or DUNE or any other RTS games. Now it looks like this Would you believe?! I think giving PI more automation would cause more EVE players to embark for PI operations. Ex. extractors could reset and adjust position by themselves. Or by DUST mercs being issued a contracts to maintain EVE colonies. Add drones infestations and that's pure PvE. PI operations can't be destroyed or intercepted (yet). The only way to interfere is by placing own extractors near our opponent's units. If there is a place on a planet. It begs for issuing mercenary contracts to destroy or take over (if your planetary consolidation skill allows it) other people colonies. In PI tutorial one can find several references of PI intended for EVE/DUST link. Next, you can "own" max 6 colonies in EVE. Rather unimpressive. CCP should add some next level of skills for "Interplanetary consolidation". There are three levels of skills for "Corporation control". It should be similar for "Interplanetary consolidation". After you maxout "Interplanetary consolidation" you can train "System planetary consolidation". Level 1 adds another 20 planets. And additional 10 planets every next level. Giving you max 66 planets. Then "Region planetary consolidation". Level 1 adds another 200. And additional 100 planets every next level. Giving you max 666 planets. Now that's something . And potential danger of being shot down at customs office while fetching PI products from colonies in low and nullsec can out stand the profits. Custom offices should be armed Or at least have an option to anchor some defense arrays next to my own CO. Here is another opportunity for DUSTIES. Contracts to defend/attack various POSes. It could be perfectly sound to allow mercs inside POSes for quicker take down. More oportunities for attack/defend contracts. And my imagination presents me with even more epic scenarios... But first we have to have "first class shooter" (as CCP CEO intended for) to seduce more players into it, to justify CCP do massive software and hardware investment to maintain all this goodies from behind scene. Free of charge That's right. For 10 more years. Wow!
EternalRMG ZionTCD 520	Posted - 2013.08.03 17:28:00 - [38] - Quote bump
EternalRMG ZionTCD 531	Posted - 2013.08.04 00:38:00 - [39] - Quote Bump
EternalRMG ZionTCD 531	Posted - 2013.08.04 04:15:00 - [40] - Quote Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS

RINON114 B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance 376	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:00:00 - [41] - Quote EternalRMG wrote: Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS Agreed. Unfortunately I feel that the devs are straight up ignoring this issue.
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2013.08.04 09:10:00 - [42] - Quote Its probably not that they are ignoring it, its just they have probably read every idea here about 100 times....
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 417	Posted - 2013.08.04 14:04:00 - [43] - Quote RINON114 wrote: EternalRMG wrote: Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS Agreed. Unfortunately I feel that the devs are straight up ignoring this issue. It' Sunday... Maybe tomorrow?
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 163	Posted - 2013.08.04 16:08:00 - [44] - Quote great idea a cpm or at least a ccp response is much needed
Zael Azna Glitched Connection 1	Posted - 2013.08.04 17:56:00 - [45] - Quote Some very good ideas in your original post Yagihige. PVE vs drones is needed to give people the variety they crave. Adding new orignial salvage options from the drones could be a great way to introduce the first components needed in the construction of DUST items. Even if we could only horde these components waiting for the player production of DUST items.
EternalRMG ZionTCD 541	Posted - 2013.08.06 22:38:00 - [46] - Quote bump
Kimimaro Uchiha Undead Doom Legion 3	Posted - 2013.08.10 17:17:00 - [47] - Quote bump
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2538	Posted - 2013.08.10 17:41:00 - [48] - Quote RINON114 wrote: EternalRMG wrote: Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS Agreed. Unfortunately I feel that the devs are straight up ignoring this issue. They're not ignoring it. They've said that PvE is going to take a back seat to other content though. It will get done, just not any time soon.
Jason Pearson Seraphim Auxiliaries 2420	Posted - 2013.08.10 18:13:00 - [49] - Quote Devs need to prioritize PvE as soon as they can, I mean, you have a trailer showing us fighting drones and yet it's still not here? What's the need in showing content that won't be here for months? Why not show the trailer when the content is being released.. sigh.. King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here! Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 176	Posted - 2013.08.22 15:01:00 - [50] - Quote bump

Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 15	Posted - 2013.08.23 17:16:00 - [51] - Quote Great idea.
DoomLead Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 204	Posted - 2013.09.16 05:07:00 - [52] - Quote bump


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