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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:24:00 -
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I mentioned an idea i had in local chat and people seemed to like it so i'm wondering if there's more people that would support it.
First of all, i have to say that i never played EVE, so excuse me if i get some things wrong.
Now, most of us will be aware that Drone co-op is coming sometime in the future. CCP discussed it at Fanfest and showed the design for the drones and the drone installations from where they spawn. They also mentioned how it could be that districts in Planetary Conquest would randomly become infected so your Dust corp involved in PC would have a bit of cleaning up to do on the districts they owned which also would give people more things to do with their districts.
My idea was that the Drone co-op would be a perfect opportunity to get the Dust/EVE link a much needed overhaul. If these infestations that were hinted by CCP to happen in PC districts were to also happen in planets controlled by EVE corporations, it would open an intersting way to get EVE pilots invested in contracting Dust soldiers to work for them.
The system would be setup like this:
- Districts have to be in place not only in the current planets but on nullsec planets too.
- Ground drone infestations would occur randomly on any (temperate for now) planet containing districts.
- Drone infestations in districts where Instant Battles take place would be available to all, designed for single players.
- Drone infestations in FW districts would be available to squads made prior to entering battle.
- Drone infestations in planets owned by EVE corps would temporarily affect negatively the benefits said corps get from owning that planet. They'd have two options: wait it out or contract mercenaries to clean up the infestation.
There would be a lot of specifics to iron out but this could open up some new interactions between both games. There could be EVE corps that would fully work side by side with the mercenaries they contract (i'd hope them to be able to contract specific players) or just open a contract that would appear in Dust for random players to fill and initiate. EVE corps would pay a sum of money to initiate a contract and a major part of that amount would act as a sink with only a fraction ending up getting to Dust players. For example, EVE corp pays 100M ISK, Dust mercs share 1M ISK of loot for the contract.
So, that's my idea. Suggestions are appreciated. |
Nin Ker
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:27:00 -
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I like it.
Variety is always good. |
Palatinate
Gravity Prone
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:36:00 -
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Good idea. I approve.  |
BLACK MASK D
Ninth Legion Freelance
1
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:48:00 -
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at this point to be honest,i just want something to be added to dust so it can be the game i once loved.... |
Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
137
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Posted - 2013.07.30 23:51:00 -
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WANT DRONES.
WANT DRONE ROCK MORE. |
sly Bandit
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
14
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:01:00 -
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100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... |
Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2013.07.31 23:04:00 -
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sly Bandit wrote:100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million...
Crude example, yes, but if EVE corps were to start pumping money into Dust through these Drone co-op contracts without a very high exchange rate, we'd be swimming in money.
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.08.01 00:05:00 -
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+1
When you hack a turret it activates it's AI which can shoot enemy players. Yellow turrets could shoot at both teams until hacked. And "drones" could be made quickly by combining RDV with turrets. Both can sense and follow players.
Another good idea
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Ribbons Allmark
CELESTIAL BEING keepers of peace
15
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Posted - 2013.08.01 00:18:00 -
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Very good idea I jist wish everyone who sees this idea and likes it would actually +1 and hit like on the top right of your post because it shows ccp that we think it is relevant |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
497
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Posted - 2013.08.01 00:26:00 -
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+1
Best idea evaaar
i have tagged this thread as a favorite, so ill make sure thiss wont die |
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
46
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Posted - 2013.08.01 00:59:00 -
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Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote:+1 When you hack a turret it activates it's AI which can shoot enemy players. Yellow turrets could shoot at both teams until hacked. And "drones" could be made quickly by combining RDV with turrets. Both can sense and follow players. Another good idea
Now that's a twist I wasn't expecting but really like. +1 for you.
And +1 for OP for a solid approach to bridge the games. |
Palatinate
Gravity Prone
EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:03:00 -
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DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
954
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:09:00 -
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Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm*
Agreed.
Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? |
Seed Dren
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
31
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:12:00 -
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They already reply to several pve threads saying is going to be a while. So seeing another thread like this just makes me depress. |
Visala Telephia
Luminous Order of the Prismatic Maiden
0
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Posted - 2013.08.01 01:59:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:sly Bandit wrote:100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... Crude example, yes, but if EVE corps were to start pumping money into Dust through these Drone co-op contracts without a very high exchange rate, we'd be swimming in money.
All things considered, do you really think that's how things shouldn't be? As an EVE Online player, I can say that I enough money to effortlessly field countless ships that cost far more than anything DUST can begin to touch. I obtain that ISK through a mundane activity called mining, which grants me between 5 and 15 million ISK per ore hold. Far more if I refine said ore. Then even more if I save it up to use in production of things that are more valuable. That DUST doesn't allow direct EVE cashflow is a large part of what is holding the game back, I feel. EVE players lose interest because they can't fit their mercenaries as they had envisioned, DUST players suffer because suddenly PC matches are far out of the hands of anything less than a megacorp, vehicle specced players can barely do what they love due to the cost of losing an HAV or Dropship, and so on. DUST has quick enough ISK sinking that even direct cashflow from EVE wouldn't cause some sort of horrible destabilization of the game, but rather, a use for any corp with extra money sitting around that wants to fund some extra fun or engage in serious military operations. Considering the cost to outfit 16 people with full prototype gear per death, and that most major EVE Alliances are caught up in very negative cashflows during wartime, the only consequence of such a thing is going to be the encouragement of experimentation and a massive increase in player activity, in both public matches and planetary conquest. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
498
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Posted - 2013.08.01 15:06:00 -
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Cash flow cant be direct, because how easy it is for eve players to get a lot of isk(for us)
If it doesnt have some kind of penalty you will see all pun matches being full proto matches becauese some eve char gave them 100million isk |
Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK
47
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Posted - 2013.08.01 17:48:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Cash flow cant be direct, because how easy it is for eve players to get a lot of isk(for us)
If it doesnt have some kind of penalty you will see all pun matches being full proto matches becauese some eve char gave them 100million isk
CCP has said that when they open up dust/eve transfers, money coming to dust is going to be "very heavily taxed" so i have a feeling it'll be near moot to transfer the vast sums of cash to make dusties super wealthy...unless you're a w-space or null-bloc ally...then its just us regular guys that get left outta the action.
Still like this idea though. Can we get a blue post just because we like to know its at least been read? |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
502
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Posted - 2013.08.01 17:50:00 -
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Ill bump until i see a blue tag in here |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
507
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Posted - 2013.08.01 21:45:00 -
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Bump |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
2597
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:25:00 -
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It's a good idea, but many eve players want nothing to do with us.
Annoying as it is, CCP listens to the subscription players first. |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2333
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Posted - 2013.08.01 22:57:00 -
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As promised, +1 for a good idea dude ^_^ |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
508
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:19:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's a good idea, but many eve players want nothing to do with us.
Annoying as it is, CCP listens to the subscription players first.
Mmm, they will want to do stuff with us when they start loosing money
What Eve Player are afraid of is being shot from planets, meaning that someone that has paid no money can destroy a sip that took them 6 or more months to guys A.k.a payed money to play |
Makuta Miserix
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
163
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right?
There is a diference between breaking someone's arm and laying waste too a planet.  |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
508
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:51:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:True Adamance wrote:Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? There is a diference between breaking someone's arm and laying waste too a planet.
We could just make a Massive LAV races fest to promote this |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.08.01 23:54:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right?
You mean stop paying your subscription fee....
Oh wait. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
508
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:03:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:True Adamance wrote:Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? You mean stop paying your subscription fee.... Oh wait.
Better, get eve players to do that for us
Oh wait.... they dont like us |
Telleth
DUST University
Ivy League
86
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:26:00 -
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+1 I definitely want to see more dust/eve interaction.
I would really like to see eve corp1 contract and drop dust corp1 on a planet held by eve corp2. We wreck installations and take some big freaking guns that mess with their stuff, shooting at pos's and such. Then eve corp2 contracts dust corp2 to kick out dust corp1. Course then dust corp2 takes the planet and ransoms eve corp2 for more money before actually giving it back to them.
Would be marvelous... |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
2336
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:32:00 -
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Thanks again for this idea, I've used it to build on an idea of mine, I've posted it here https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1130759 and included credit to you, sir. |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
217
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:41:00 -
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Telleth wrote:+1 I definitely want to see more dust/eve interaction.
I would really like to see eve corp1 contract and drop dust corp1 on a planet held by eve corp2. We wreck installations and take some big freaking guns that mess with their stuff, shooting at pos's and such. Then eve corp2 contracts dust corp2 to kick out dust corp1. Course then dust corp2 takes the planet and ransoms eve corp2 for more money before actually giving it back to them.
Would be marvelous...
You, I like the way you think. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
796
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Posted - 2013.08.02 00:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right?
If we are going to riot then it would have to be Gandhi style where we refused to fight and just stood around not killing each other. We would be hippies. |
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