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rrune
Fenrir's Wolves RUST415
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Posted - 2013.08.02 03:38:00 -
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GREAT IDEA |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.08.02 04:07:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:sly Bandit wrote:100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... Crude example, yes, but if EVE corps were to start pumping money into Dust through these Drone co-op contracts without a very high exchange rate, we'd be swimming in money.
swimming in money is such a dream , no one will let you do that |
Delilah Judge-Slayer
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:00:00 -
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sly Bandit wrote:100million gets paid and we only get 1 million.. My tank costs more than 1 million... If eve players pay 100million then 50 million goes to the mercs the other 50 goes to repairing the damages.
100 million is chump change to most capsuleers.
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Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
222
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Posted - 2013.08.02 05:32:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:True Adamance wrote:Palatinate wrote:DAMMIT DEVS REPLY TO THIS THREAD ALREADY *breaks own arm* Agreed. Hey perhaps we can appeal to CCP like the EVE guys did at Jiita. It we all break our arms over this game they would have to listen right? If we are going to riot then it would have to be Gandhi style where we refused to fight and just stood around not killing each other. We would be hippies.
I still get to shower right? Do I have to eat granola? I'm not a big fan of sandals either. Now about those cigarettes...
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Bubba Salaman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:09:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote: Mmm, they will want to do stuff with us when they start loosing money
What Eve Player are afraid of is being shot from planets, meaning that someone that has paid no money can destroy a sip that took them 6 or more months to guys A.k.a payed money to play
6 or more months? As an Eve player, I have to say, your expectations of how much Eve ships cost is grossly exaggerated. The destroyers that we use to orbital bombard dusties can be bought with the money that I get from killing one, maybe two battleship rats(I don't know the exact numbers of the bounty that I get, because I haven't ratted in a long ass time.). You get a free destroyer as a reward for finishing the tutorial. And honestly, orbiting above a planet in low-sec space with your cloak off waiting for the chance to orbital bombard is dangerous enough as it is, no one is going to bring along a ship that they can't replace with an hour's or less worth of work, unless they're idiots. Of course there's idiots out there who are sometimes given access to enormously expensive ships, but part of Eve is learning how to prepare to lose stuff.
That being said, I think your first point does have some merit. As an Eve player, right now there's just no point to even interact with Dusties. There's no plus side for the Eve pilots.
Now if drones were to take over one of my personal PI colonies, my Eve pilot could single handedly fund a squad of Dusties to go into my colony and flush the drones out. I think Dust was originally going to be fought in PI colonies at first when the colonies were first introduced in Eve, but I think CCP realized that personally owned colonies were just not important enough for thirty people in Dust to fight for just to **** over one Eve pilot's income, so they switched to the district model.
However, I could totally see a niche for six player squads accepting contracts from single Eve players for something like 50mil isk or less to go and beat up a bunch of drones for a bit. Hell, if a drone infestation was affecting my PI colonies, I would probably give you orbital bombardments just to help you out, I make 95% of my income from PI. I can't let drones hurt that. |
castba
Penguin's March
45
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Posted - 2013.08.02 07:51:00 -
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Being in a small, but enjoyable corp, I like the sound of going in with a crew if 4-6 and cleaning out individual PI for a price. Maybe there could be a contract listing board in dust where eve players post contracts for dust teams to accept with a time frame for completion. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
414
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Posted - 2013.08.02 09:31:00 -
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Planetary interaction (PI) in EVE is little attractive because you have to maintain it manually. You set up extractors and you have to restart them periodically. You have to adjust their position from time to time as hotspots tend to "migrate". It's boring. And it looks boring. It could look more like C&C, or Warcraft or DUNE or any other RTS games. Now it looks like this Would you believe?!
I think giving PI more automation would cause more EVE players to embark for PI operations. Ex. extractors could reset and adjust position by themselves. Or by DUST mercs being issued a contracts to maintain EVE colonies. Add drones infestations and that's pure PvE.
PI operations can't be destroyed or intercepted (yet). The only way to interfere is by placing own extractors near our opponent's units. If there is a place on a planet. It begs for issuing mercenary contracts to destroy or take over (if your planetary consolidation skill allows it) other people colonies. In PI tutorial one can find several references of PI intended for EVE/DUST link.
Next, you can "own" max 6 colonies in EVE. Rather unimpressive. CCP should add some next level of skills for "Interplanetary consolidation". There are three levels of skills for "Corporation control". It should be similar for "Interplanetary consolidation". After you maxout "Interplanetary consolidation" you can train "System planetary consolidation". Level 1 adds another 20 planets. And additional 10 planets every next level. Giving you max 66 planets. Then "Region planetary consolidation". Level 1 adds another 200. And additional 100 planets every next level. Giving you max 666 planets. Now that's something .
And potential danger of being shot down at customs office while fetching PI products from colonies in low and nullsec can out stand the profits. Custom offices should be armed Or at least have an option to anchor some defense arrays next to my own CO. Here is another opportunity for DUSTIES. Contracts to defend/attack various POSes. It could be perfectly sound to allow mercs inside POSes for quicker take down. More oportunities for attack/defend contracts. And my imagination presents me with even more epic scenarios...
But first we have to have "first class shooter" (as CCP CEO intended for) to seduce more players into it, to justify CCP do massive software and hardware investment to maintain all this goodies from behind scene. Free of charge That's right. For 10 more years. Wow! |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
520
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Posted - 2013.08.03 17:28:00 -
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bump |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.04 00:38:00 -
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Bump |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
531
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Posted - 2013.08.04 04:15:00 -
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Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS |
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
376
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:00:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS Agreed. Unfortunately I feel that the devs are straight up ignoring this issue. |
Lady MDK
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.04 09:10:00 -
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Its probably not that they are ignoring it, its just they have probably read every idea here about 100 times....
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Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.08.04 14:04:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS Agreed. Unfortunately I feel that the devs are straight up ignoring this issue. It' Sunday... Maybe tomorrow?
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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.04 16:08:00 -
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great idea a cpm or at least a ccp response is much needed |
Zael Azna
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:56:00 -
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Some very good ideas in your original post Yagihige. PVE vs drones is needed to give people the variety they crave. Adding new orignial salvage options from the drones could be a great way to introduce the first components needed in the construction of DUST items. Even if we could only horde these components waiting for the player production of DUST items. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.08.06 22:38:00 -
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bump |
Kimimaro Uchiha
Undead Doom Legion
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:17:00 -
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bump |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.10 17:41:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:EternalRMG wrote:Bump COme on GUYS and DEVS TAKE A LOOK AT THIS Agreed. Unfortunately I feel that the devs are straight up ignoring this issue. They're not ignoring it. They've said that PvE is going to take a back seat to other content though. It will get done, just not any time soon. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Auxiliaries
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Posted - 2013.08.10 18:13:00 -
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Devs need to prioritize PvE as soon as they can, I mean, you have a trailer showing us fighting drones and yet it's still not here? What's the need in showing content that won't be here for months? Why not show the trailer when the content is being released..
sigh..
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DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:01:00 -
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bump |
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Sky Dovahkiin
WAR LIONS
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Posted - 2013.08.23 17:16:00 -
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Great idea. |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2013.09.16 05:07:00 -
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bump |
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