all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.

typical infantry scrub, I give troll rating 3/10

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.

typical infantry scrub, I give troll rating 3/10

Its called rolling infantry and proto AV, and rolling fully specced out maddys.
Ive seen both sides of the spectrum. Roll a maddy w/ a poly plate, heavy repper, active hardener, 2 passive harderners and have 10% armor resistance from the skill and my maddys unstoppable except to proto swarms, i notice they got 3 or more damage modes on the wirkomi, i flip the hardener, get out, recall it.
Play the rest of the game on foot. Just an ambush i can stomp the next one.
Tanks are fine, yet garbage tankers whine and want buffs, and if they get it, real tankers are going to be unstoppable, then around comes the nerf merry go round.

What match types do you normally play? I do skirmishes mostly, but I've often wondered if tanks can be more successful in other types as well.

That is your answer?

Tanks are fine, when I see proto AV i recall my vehicle.

This is hilarious.

That is your answer?

Tanks are fine, when I see proto AV i recall my vehicle.

This is hilarious.

Tanks are priced where you NEED to go 40-1 or higher to have a chance at breaking even. If they are going 20-3 they are severely overpriced or underperforming.

I haven't seen tank spam since the ISK transfer exploit in codex.

Other than that, it's usually been not enough tanks, but occasionally a decent amount.

Last 2 days I've seen more tank spam than ever. Think there was an average of 2-3 tanks and at least 1-2 dropship on the enemy team.

Which brings it to a point where Tanks become more and more dominant the numerous they are.

Lets say 1 tank = 2-3 infantry
2 tanks = 4-6 infantry
3 tanks = 6-9 infantry

It gets lopsided pretty fast and more AV on your team doesnt matter much when multiple tanks can lock a team dead in waters.

Negative 5 out of 10 for me this guy who don't have the knowledge of tank and how big of a role it takes in a squad or a team of guys
Im not a tanker personally but I feel for the guys who are because they will lose there 2mill+ tank to a guy who's running a 100k suit to me the math is completely wrong there !

and there is their problem.. price

Tankers need to quit crying for a buff.. seriously.. tanks themselves are fine

Get together and rally for a major overhaul on vehicle and vehicle module pricing

Yeah price is why you hardly ever see tanks in pc. It's not like people in pc will throw out any amount of isk to win. oh wait.

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.

and there is their problem.. price

Tankers need to quit crying for a buff.. seriously.. tanks themselves are fine

Get together and rally for a major overhaul on vehicle and vehicle module pricing

You have OBVIOUSLY NOT played in a single PC battle, have you?

Protip: Any half decent forge fit can still wreck my 2.5mil, 40% resist, 5.3k hp tank in a single clip.

The tanks have to run away from everyone one the field after they've been there more than a minute, as everyone and their grandmother is specced into grenades, which means proto packed AV nades bouncing off your hull, then that forge hits you from outside your render distance, and the swarms fly around that corner, making a perfect 90* turn in an instant.

Oh yeah, you av guys have it so hard, what with 2/3 of your weapons being fire and forget homing bullshit.

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.

Who are you?

Also, while i've had a beer and at it

Why so many complaints about av nades.......

To get stung by av nade, you pretty much need to be stood still.... i got caught out last week after a 1v1 with forge dude, then a sneaky av nade while i was repping

my own fault, i shoudnt have been sat where i was

i ****** over a madruger from about 1 meter behind him because he failed to zoom out of his turret and see me, he reversed and i just backed up on foot along side him...?!

if av nade man gets that close, its your own fault i would say,,,,

Exactly. These tankers complaining about packed AV nades homing in like Infantry can hit you from 50 meters with them. Why are you that close to Infantry throwing packed AV nades at you, why are you staying in a situation where the Infantry can throw them without being in danger of you, and why are you that close without squad Infantry support trying to solo?

i seen plenty of people that started in sica like me, now we in gunlogi's fully specced, i never see any of them complain on forums

just these so called "vets"

coz there scrubs that cant adapt and used to there "i win" button

/thread

Lav + infantry = sneaking up on tank in 10 seconds with av nades.

Also only the "vets" complain because you don't get much PC done in an npc corp.

if llav sneaks up on you, then turn your fecking volume up, damn, i hear hives getting dropped on floor when im pinging missiles out my tank

sure i dont play pc, but if you or your team cant look after tank, then you shouldnt have one out, clearly

sure I dont play pc but any imbalances that show up are clearly not real because pubs are fine.

Please stop. You sound ridiculous.

He's MR. TANKIE.

If you read my 1st post in this thread, i quite cleary said that tanks prolly need some love

i have 8mil sp in shield tank..... yes shield tank,,, for tank v tank, the worst one.......

Yet i i find some of these complaints threads beyond ridiculous, to me its you guys that sound stupid

I've already pointed out the reasons why in my past 2-3 posts and i dont care to repeat myself

If you cant work you tank, then fu basicly, gtfo and join the infantry

Negative 5 out of 10 for me this guy who don't have the knowledge of tank and how big of a role it takes in a squad or a team of guys
Im not a tanker personally but I feel for the guys who are because they will lose there 2mill+ tank to a guy who's running a 100k suit to me the math is completely wrong there !

Yeah price is why you hardly ever see tanks in pc. It's not like people in pc will throw out any amount of isk to win. oh wait.

i was paid for every tank i lost in PC, great tank battles were had where youd see 10-15 tanks in a match and proto AV would just let us have fun

Protip: Any half decent forge fit can still wreck my 2.5mil, 40% resist, 5.3k hp tank in a single clip.

The tanks have to run away from everyone one the field after they've been there more than a minute, as everyone and their grandmother is specced into grenades, which means proto packed AV nades bouncing off your hull, then that forge hits you from outside your render distance, and the swarms fly around that corner, making a perfect 90* turn in an instant.

Oh yeah, you av guys have it so hard, what with 2/3 of your weapons being fire and forget homing bullshit.

thats a joke right, hes one of the best tankers in the game

ambushes are tanks best friends, however skirms and dommys can be done by either mountain sniping, or using a proto rail to blow up all supply depots and railgun installations while sticking to the outside of the map, then switching your rail to a blaster.
When you notice a forger up high then recall you tank, then use a sniper rifle or a redline railgun to take him out if he renders on your scope.
Ambushes are best because there aren't supply depots and isnt much time for AV to get high spots

Ambushes are getting absolutely destroyed by tanks and LAV's, pretty much every match I played last night the team that won were the ones with the tank (and it was often a steamroll, with 20+ clones remaining on the enemy team). And since teams are mostly random, the tanks have very little threat from AV (especially since players would have to die first to get out their AV).

Since I only have advanced swarms with an adv suit on my alt, I alone have little to stop these annoying turkeys. Not to mention I have to give up virtually all my anti-infantry ability just to have a slight chance at getting a shot at a tank or LAV (LLAV's are pretty much invincible, need at least half the team working with AV to get them).

Since I am an ambush junkie, I laugh when I hear any tankers whine. Because from everything I see, they are horribly OP and absolutely ruin bush matches for players who just want to shoot other infantry players.


Would be so nice to have a vehicle-free ambush option, and would be the absolute best combo when combined with squad-free too!

Ambushes are getting absolutely destroyed by tanks and LAV's, pretty much every match I played last night the team that won were the ones with the tank (and it was often a steamroll, with 20+ clones remaining on the enemy team). And since teams are mostly random, the tanks have very little threat from AV (especially since players would have to die first to get out their AV).

Since I only have advanced swarms with an adv suit on my alt, I alone have little to stop these annoying turkeys. Not to mention I have to give up virtually all my anti-infantry ability just to have a slight chance at getting a shot at a tank or LAV (LLAV's are pretty much invincible, need at least half the team working with AV to get them).

Since I am an ambush junkie, I laugh when I hear any tankers whine. Because from everything I see, they are horribly OP and absolutely ruin bush matches for players who just want to shoot other infantry players.


Would be so nice to have a vehicle-free ambush option, and would be the absolute best combo when combined with squad-free too!

Exactly. These tankers complaining about packed AV nades homing in like Infantry can hit you from 50 meters with them. Why are you that close to Infantry throwing packed AV nades at you, why are you staying in a situation where the Infantry can throw them without being in danger of you, and why are you that close without squad Infantry support trying to solo?

Protip: Any half decent forge fit can still wreck my 2.5mil, 40% resist, 5.3k hp tank in a single clip.

The tanks have to run away from everyone one the field after they've been there more than a minute, as everyone and their grandmother is specced into grenades, which means proto packed AV nades bouncing off your hull, then that forge hits you from outside your render distance, and the swarms fly around that corner, making a perfect 90* turn in an instant.

Oh yeah, you av guys have it so hard, what with 2/3 of your weapons being fire and forget homing bullshit.

all the damn time you wouldn't have so many infantry hating vehicles, and then speccing into proto AV. You wonder why you can get an easy 20+ kills in ambush with your blaster, then you get mad and complain that you got killed, no s*** sherlock, you're in a giant death machine that can only be killed when a proto AV player makes his entire focus on you, your tank can kill everything in sight yet the AVer has to run away from enemies while trying to slay a 1.5 million isk tank that you brought to a pub match. Most likely dieing over and over to do it.

Tired of garbage tankers whining for crutches when real tankers are almost unstoppable except from damage specific concentrated proto AV.

God these bad, whiny tankers think theyre the majority, and they give us a bad name.

PROTIP- its all about damage resistance, not total HP noobs.

Dropships got the right to complain.

And f*** all of you that use the charybdis.

#endrant

PS, only thing you got the right to complain about is the armor repper "fix", or if you're a shield tanker.