Scout = hit hard and fast. gets in and out.
right now it's:
scout = ___ and fast. gets in and dies.

Scouts are low hp high speed suits.

They are designed to speed tank not shield or armor tank.

IMO scouts are functioning as they were intended.

BTW i get slaughtered by scouts more often than any other class.

Scouts are low hp high speed suits. They are designed to speed tank not shield or armor tank. If you are getting slaughtered try setting your suit up for speed and mobility rather than armor or shield tank. IMO scouts are functioning as they were intended and there is no need for a buff/nerf or tweak of this suit. Learn how to use the scout suit properly, its not just scouts getting slaughtered but EVERY other class of suit as well. This is not a game where it is possible to not die every match. There is only one thing that is certain, DEATH. When you start a new character the first thing that you are told is that you will die, get used to it and adapt to minimize your deaths and you will do just fine. Militia suits while you are learning how to do this are inexpensive and will give you the least cost to train your kill skills. Welcome to New Eden.

BTW i get slaughtered by scouts more often than any other class

gibburish

scouts semm to run and jump fast to me...its the logi med suit that needs tweaking....

Only because older scouts have complex mods, an usually stack em, but 1.2 took a lot of our advantages away an made our hit box increase with speed.
If you played earlier you would see a tremendous difference

people confuse scouts wanting buffs, with them wanting to be assault suits. NO! that is not what they are asking.

scout suits = hit and run
assault suits = sustained assault, attrition
logi suits = field support
heavy suits = suppresive fire (HMG on ppl, forgun on vehicles) for advancing or retreating/defending purposes

a full squad of scouts should be able to:
1. attack a vulnerable possition without being detecting (meaning they should always get the first shot)
2. place uplinks near that position.
3. cause massive loss to the enemy by capturing poorly defended positions
4. retreat when enemy forces regroup

they should not be able to:

5. sustain an assault on an organized enemy force
6. have ehp = an assaults max ehp
right now scouts cant do any of these properly except the last 2.


assaults should be able to:

1. attack heavily defended positions and break through via attrition
2. have high ehp
3. carry enough equipment to help support themselves or one other
4. be versitile and effective in many situations

an assualt should not:

5. have speed = to a scout
6. have ehp = to a heavy
7. be able to lay down suppressive fire better than a heavy
8. be good at everything
9. replace a logi

right now an assault suit can just abbout do everything anyone else can do better.


a logi suit should be able to:

1. support the front lines via equipment, and squad defense (preventing flanking with their primary)
2. have ehp ~= an assault
3. be versitile and usable in many situations.

a logi should not be able to:

4. amass more ehp than a heavy
5. be better than assaults at pushing the front line
6. be as fast as a scout (some logi's are as fast as scouts)

right now logi's are freaking unbeatble




a heavy should be able to:

1. have the most ehp amoung all suits, and have greater longevity under fire
2. lay down suppressive fire vs infantry in an offenseive and defensive role
3. lay down suppressive fire vs vehicles in an offensive and defensive role (forge gun)
4. be able to anihlate any infantry DIRECTLY in his line of fire (if you stand in my stream of bullets you should die)
5. should be better than assaults at holding positions and suppressing enemies on offense. (see 3)

a heavy should not:

1. be as fast as an assault
2. die as fast as a scout
3. be out gunned by an assault in a 1 on 1 situation
4. be worse at defense than an assault and terrible at offense
5. have equal or less ehp than an assault or logi

right now heavies just die so fast... its unfathomable

Infantry re-balancing is coming in 1.4, just be patient guys.

Can you please fix scouts for 1.4?

So.... another few months worth of bleeding ISK, wasting clones and paying exorbitant amounts of SP for fractional increases in CPU/PG, Shield and Armor for other 'core' skills so we can fit 2 complex shield extenders, a drop uplink, and maybe an ADV light weapon.

Sweet!

So.... another few months worth of bleeding ISK, wasting clones and paying exorbitant amounts of SP for fractional increases in CPU/PG, Shield and Armor for other 'core' skills so we can fit 2 complex shield extenders, a drop uplink, and maybe an ADV light weapon.

Sweet!

Yes, the re-balancing is done by equaling everybody's tun and strafe speed. That's terrible for scouts, it's already kind of stupid that people can backpedal or strafe at their normal speed (none of which is much slower than scout's normal speed)

That 'rebalancing' is the problem.