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CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.26 22:59:00 -
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dday3six wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:The reason people want reset is they might LOVE playing minmatar suits who want to be a heavy are are being forced into playing Ammar or NOT PLAYING
How do you not understand this?
What about scouts? tank drivers? Why should I have to be froced to put unrefundable points in the caldari LAV when the 1st screenshot of the minmatar LAV was posted over a year ago? It's stupid. You were forced to put SP into something? Did CCP Devs go to your house and tell you at gunpoint, that you must put 2.8mil SP into Caldari Logi LAV? I've come to the conclusion you don't even play Dust. Cause if you did you'd understand that a player cannot complete with Militia gear and core upgrades against other players with PRO gear. So while CCP doesn't force anyone to spend their SP, wanting to play Dust with reasonable ( READ not die to being sneezed at) results does. I've been playing Dust since you needed a beta key. |
Paran Tadec
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1249
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:00:00 -
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everyone begging for respecs needs to be rounded up and put on a train... |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
120
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:05:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:dday3six wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:The reason people want reset is they might LOVE playing minmatar suits who want to be a heavy are are being forced into playing Ammar or NOT PLAYING
How do you not understand this?
What about scouts? tank drivers? Why should I have to be froced to put unrefundable points in the caldari LAV when the 1st screenshot of the minmatar LAV was posted over a year ago? It's stupid. You were forced to put SP into something? Did CCP Devs go to your house and tell you at gunpoint, that you must put 2.8mil SP into Caldari Logi LAV? I've come to the conclusion you don't even play Dust. Cause if you did you'd understand that a player cannot complete with Militia gear and core upgrades against other players with PRO gear. So while CCP doesn't force anyone to spend their SP, wanting to play Dust with reasonable ( READ not die to being sneezed at) results does. I've been playing Dust since you needed a beta key.
If that is true, and I honestly doubt it. I demand proof that you have been cleared by a medical professional to interact with the rest of society on meaningful psychological level. Cause all I've seen is poor trolling. |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:26:00 -
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dday3six wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:dday3six wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:The reason people want reset is they might LOVE playing minmatar suits who want to be a heavy are are being forced into playing Ammar or NOT PLAYING
How do you not understand this?
What about scouts? tank drivers? Why should I have to be froced to put unrefundable points in the caldari LAV when the 1st screenshot of the minmatar LAV was posted over a year ago? It's stupid. You were forced to put SP into something? Did CCP Devs go to your house and tell you at gunpoint, that you must put 2.8mil SP into Caldari Logi LAV? I've come to the conclusion you don't even play Dust. Cause if you did you'd understand that a player cannot complete with Militia gear and core upgrades against other players with PRO gear. So while CCP doesn't force anyone to spend their SP, wanting to play Dust with reasonable ( READ not die to being sneezed at) results does. I've been playing Dust since you needed a beta key. If that is true, and I honestly doubt it. I demand proof that you have been cleared by a medical professional to interact with the rest of society on meaningful psychological level. Cause all I've seen is poor trolling. Lol
You're from RND. 'Nuff said. Go back to protostomping Academy graduates. |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
120
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Posted - 2013.07.26 23:39:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:
You're from RND. 'Nuff said. Go back to protostomping Academy graduates.
I guess the jokes on you that I don't even a PRO suit to go protostomping in. However I will take the opportunity to remind you that proto-stomping is the very reason why players are forced to spend SP rather then wait indefinitely to one day spec into what they want, or something that might not completely neutered by balance changes or core gameplay updates.
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KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
158
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:19:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:lol I love bad players who think it's all the weapon or the suit that kills them, and not that they just suck at aiming.
The reason we want respecs is because playing one class over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for months on end, and an incefdibly long grind to spec into something new makes the game boring. Respec so I can try new things.
This thank you is why we need a respec option available at all times. The flipping game is boring lets us play and have FUN! |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1291
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Posted - 2013.07.27 02:25:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:Is so they can reskill into the flavor of the month weapon/suit.
The TAR was the most used weapon and was mathematically proven to be on par with PRO blasters.
- It rightfully got nerfed, much to the chagrin of the forum.
The Caldari Logistic suit was proven to be by far the best suit in the game.
- It rightfully is getting nerfed, because there's little reason to use anything else.
Many are using the flaylock as the primary weapon, with another one as a secondary, or a mass driver as a secondary.
- It too, is rightfully getting nerfed, due to how overused it too is.
This is the only reason you all want a respec, so you can quickly skill into the next popular weapon/suit that 95% of the playerbase will start using right away. You don't deserve a respec, nor have you earned one. You act like selfish children.
Funny you should say this, because the AR is, by far, the most overused weapon in Dust. In fact, in pubs, the game most of us play, the AR accounts for as many kills as 10 out of 12 light/sidearm weapons combined.
Hail AR 514, hail king AR!
Oh yeah, no respecs are inbound. |
Exergonic
TeamPlayers EoN.
254
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Posted - 2013.07.27 06:32:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:Is so they can reskill into the flavor of the month weapon/suit.
The TAR was the most used weapon and was mathematically proven to be on par with PRO blasters.
- It rightfully got nerfed, much to the chagrin of the forum.
The Caldari Logistic suit was proven to be by far the best suit in the game.
- It rightfully is getting nerfed, because there's little reason to use anything else.
Many are using the flaylock as the primary weapon, with another one as a secondary, or a mass driver as a secondary.
- It too, is rightfully getting nerfed, due to how overused it too is.
This is the only reason you all want a respec, so you can quickly skill into the next popular weapon/suit that 95% of the playerbase will start using right away. You don't deserve a respec, nor have you earned one. You act like selfish children. Funny you should say this, because the AR is, by far, the most overused weapon in Dust. In fact, in pubs, the game most of us play, the AR accounts for as many kills as 10 out of 12 light/sidearm weapons combined. Hail AR 514, hail king AR! Oh yeah, no respecs are inbound.
The most versatile weapon is used by more then half the community
You don't say |
TODDSTER024
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
96
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Posted - 2013.07.27 06:37:00 -
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You forgot contact grenades. I have about 300k SP i wouldnt mind reasigning to cpu & pg... |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
769
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:09:00 -
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Quote:You act like selfish children.
ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design.
I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP.
I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up. |
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1300
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:12:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Quote:You act like selfish children. ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design. I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP. I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up.
I suspect people just dont want to hear logic.
and most want cal logis to pay for what they did. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
3233
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:15:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:You act like selfish children. ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design. I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP. I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up. I suspect people just dont want to hear logic. and most want cal logis to pay for what they did. No, we want balanced game mechanics. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
770
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:32:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:You act like selfish children. ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design. I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP. I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up. I suspect people just dont want to hear logic. and most want cal logis to pay for what they did. No, we want balanced game mechanics.
No one disagrees with balance. it is like puppies and pizza; everyone loves it.
If you want balance then logically you should be fine with the respec. Less people will complain and the nerf will go smoothly without much fuss. |
dday3six
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
122
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:39:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:You act like selfish children. ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design. I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP. I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up. I suspect people just dont want to hear logic. and most want cal logis to pay for what they did.
I've always had a hard time blaming players for using the tools developers gave them. The biggest issue is how most players see things differently from most developers. Basically Devs are looking at a what's fun angle, while players look at what wins. |
xSir Campsalotx
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
46
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Posted - 2013.07.27 07:51:00 -
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MlDDLE MANGEMENT wrote:I love when EVE nerds shout mathematics like the numbers are the be all end all of the weapons level of power
DPS is a garbage statistic right up there with KDR. Especially when you factor in that AIMING IS NOT 100%. There are multiple factors that could result in shots missing, sorry you could survive a TAC user in the open if you knew what you were doing but a PRO blaster turret will shred you especially the scatter blasters.
TTK is a better utility of a weapons effectiveness. Moreover the comparison between the PRO Blasters and the TAR was one of the most laughable comparison id seen in gaming. Honestly the spreadsheet crowd are the biggest distraction when it comes to weapon balancing, its almost as bad as that guy who runs around using the number of AR kills he see in the killfeed as the significant data point that ARs are OP based on their utility.
You do realize TTK and dps are essentially the same or rather are in an inverse correlation the higher one is the lower the other. |
Balzich Rotaine
ZODS ARMY
173
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Posted - 2013.07.27 08:14:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Do you feel better now that you've created the 12684739th thread on "why i'm mad some people we're killing me in FOTM suits and now they should pay for it"? I'm skilled into tanks. Your Duvolle can't hurt me. You're probably just pissed that you can't reassign those skill points into the next flavor of the month. What's the next FOTM? I'm curious.. I hope it's butter pecan. |
Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
166
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Posted - 2013.07.27 10:42:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:lol I love bad players who think it's all the weapon or the suit that kills them, and not that they just suck at aiming.
The reason we want respecs is because playing one class over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for months on end, and an incefdibly long grind to spec into something new makes the game boring. Respec so I can try new things.
^^^ QFT.
See? He understands. |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:23:00 -
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TODDSTER024 wrote:You forgot contact grenades. I have about 300k SP i wouldnt mind reasigning to cpu & pg... Still allows you to use ADV locus, AV, and flux grenades. |
Ninjanomyx
One Who Bears Fangs At GOD
118
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:32:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Cosgar wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:You act like selfish children. ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design. I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP. I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up. I suspect people just dont want to hear logic. and most want cal logis to pay for what they did. No, we want balanced game mechanics. No one disagrees with balance. it is like puppies and pizza; everyone loves it. If you want balance then logically you should be fine with the respec. Less people will complain and the nerf will go smoothly without much fuss.
WRONG!!!!! I hate Puppies.........but I'd F**K a Pizza :P |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
371
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:34:00 -
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People not OK with respecs = Neckbeards People OK with respecs = Everybody else.
We would then be able to balance the game ourselves while we wait for real balance.
10,000,000 ISK Available once every 720 hours. |
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Brolaire of Asstoria
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:36:00 -
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....and once the respec happens and everyone skills into the next possibly OP suit and CCP "rebalances" that, people lose their lives again with the wailing and gnashing of teeth crying out for ANOTHER respec... Lather rinse repeat...times infinity! No respec |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
47
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Posted - 2013.07.27 16:41:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Quote:You act like selfish children. ummm this a game. A game the developers of which brag about how player input shapes its design. I want players to get a respec because their play style has been nerfed and it is fair that they be allowed to choose to stick with it or try something else. I personally have never speced into Tar or cal logi or flaylock. Obviously i do not want a respec so i can run after the next OP. I have just dismantled your whole argument. Please sit down and shut up. I'll say it again, in bold, so you can hopefully understand it.
When 95% of the playerbase is using one thing, then that's the flavor of the month. I'm sure you remember just how many people were using the tactical ARs. When you have so many using one specific type of weapon, ignoring everything else, then that becomes a problem. When people show that, mathematically, the Duvolle TAR is on par with PRO blaster turret, then it's a problem. When one particular suit has so many advantages over all the others, that it's one, useless to use the others, and two, if you don't use it it puts you at such a disadvantage, then that's a problem.
What part of when everybody uses one particular thing, it's a problem, don't you understand? People are using the flaylock over the mass driver. Why? Could you figure it out? I wouldn't know from experience because I'm a pilot. But, from what I've read on here, it does around the same damage, faster fire rate, and a faster reload than the mass driver. With that being said, what reason is there to use the mass driver, when you can put a flaylock in the L slot as well, thereby having two?
The only thing you've dismantled is a building made out of Legos. It doesn't matter what you do or don't use. As yourself, you're one person among thousands. Why do you think your opinion should count above others?
You want to talk about a playstyle that got nerfed, then let's talk about vehicles. Consecutive nerfs through builds, culminating in the PG skill nerf upon Uprising deployment. Turret prices were basically doubled. Now, CCP says the rep rate is a "bug," the same repair rate and "bug" that has been in the game through multiple builds now. We asked for, and deserved a skill respec, and do you want to know why? Because they changed what the skills did without telling us, and left the old description on the skill itself. The powergrid skill for vehicles used to add 5% per level. Now it decreases CPU usage of powergrid expansion modules. That's not the same, right? Turret skills used to add 3 and 2% for operation and proficiency, respectively. Now, they add 1% per level.
The most popular hull is the Madrugar, because it offers the most fitting options and is the best bang for the buck. The most popular AV are swarms and AV grenades, because they're idiot proof and, because they're explosive weaponry, get a damage bonus against armor. A big bonus. 4 Lai Dai packed AV grenades is enough to completely destroy a Madrugar that is waiting for its modules to cool down. That's around 6,400 damage considering the damage bonus, with explosive weaponry is 120% against armor.
You wouldn't know how to destroy an argument if you've been a lawyer for 20 years. |
Phantom Vaxer
The Generals EoN.
59
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Posted - 2013.07.27 20:23:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:Phantom Vaxer wrote:No, that is not the only reason why people want respecs or at least specific tree respecs. I don't want a respec any time soon nor may I need one. But the way Dust is being developed its basically a game that was taken out of Beta WAY TOO EARLY. I mean heavies only have 1 race of suits to spec in at the moment, Scouts are limited to 2 races, many skill bonuses are just placeholders for the actual skills they plan to use, other weapons in some categories are placeholders for upcoming weapons.
I don't ask for a respec to because of balance changes I see that they are needed cause of the fact CCP is lacking in content for a supposedly "launched" game when many many things are missing or just placeholders. So I see partial respecs in skill trees where the particular gear and skills were overhauled and when everyone can at least spec into 1 of the 4 races in each category; Light, Medium, Heavy. Think respecs like these would actually encourage people to play into the new roles when they come out instead of focusing on the currently accessible role till its finished.
So no I'm not a child. Its the fact that CCP has too many things missing in this hollow shooter and still has many fixes. This thing should have stayed in Beta till they at least got all the basic race suits in the game. You're getting it all for free. 99% of other Devs charge you for more content. Would you prefer CCP move to a paid-for scheme, instead of giving it to you for free? Why must they rush? If you think rushing is the way to go, you obviously haven't been gaming for very long at all, because the amount of incomplete rushed games cannot be counted. Everything from minor glitches to game-breaking bugs sometimes never get worked on, because they choose instead to work on additional content. Do you want CCP to go down that road?
Well lets see...its the fact that many other games have been released with A LOT more polish. Also really? Cause until 1.4 they've mostly just been adding new content before even working on aiming except when in April it was absolutely horrid.. Also they want this game to shine and succeed but that isn't going to work when your players just get annoyed by the lack of respecs when the game has MANY MANY things missing or just placeholders.
CCP could be making themselves look A LOT better if they were still in beta. |
DRE PrEaCh
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
32
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Posted - 2013.07.27 20:45:00 -
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CoD isAIDS wrote:Is so they can reskill into the flavor of the month weapon/suit.
The TAR was the most used weapon and was mathematically proven to be on par with PRO blasters.
- It rightfully got nerfed, much to the chagrin of the forum.
The Caldari Logistic suit was proven to be by far the best suit in the game.
- It rightfully is getting nerfed, because there's little reason to use anything else.
Many are using the flaylock as the primary weapon, with another one as a secondary, or a mass driver as a secondary.
- It too, is rightfully getting nerfed, due to how overused it too is.
This is the only reason you all want a respec, so you can quickly skill into the next popular weapon/suit that 95% of the playerbase will start using right away. You don't deserve a respec, nor have you earned one. You act like selfish children.
are you the dust police? |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:04:00 -
[85] - Quote
DRE PrEaCh wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:Is so they can reskill into the flavor of the month weapon/suit.
The TAR was the most used weapon and was mathematically proven to be on par with PRO blasters.
- It rightfully got nerfed, much to the chagrin of the forum.
The Caldari Logistic suit was proven to be by far the best suit in the game.
- It rightfully is getting nerfed, because there's little reason to use anything else.
Many are using the flaylock as the primary weapon, with another one as a secondary, or a mass driver as a secondary.
- It too, is rightfully getting nerfed, due to how overused it too is.
This is the only reason you all want a respec, so you can quickly skill into the next popular weapon/suit that 95% of the playerbase will start using right away. You don't deserve a respec, nor have you earned one. You act like selfish children. are you the dust police? No, just a long-time gamer. |
CoD isAIDS
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:07:00 -
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Phantom Vaxer wrote:CoD isAIDS wrote:Phantom Vaxer wrote:No, that is not the only reason why people want respecs or at least specific tree respecs. I don't want a respec any time soon nor may I need one. But the way Dust is being developed its basically a game that was taken out of Beta WAY TOO EARLY. I mean heavies only have 1 race of suits to spec in at the moment, Scouts are limited to 2 races, many skill bonuses are just placeholders for the actual skills they plan to use, other weapons in some categories are placeholders for upcoming weapons.
I don't ask for a respec to because of balance changes I see that they are needed cause of the fact CCP is lacking in content for a supposedly "launched" game when many many things are missing or just placeholders. So I see partial respecs in skill trees where the particular gear and skills were overhauled and when everyone can at least spec into 1 of the 4 races in each category; Light, Medium, Heavy. Think respecs like these would actually encourage people to play into the new roles when they come out instead of focusing on the currently accessible role till its finished.
So no I'm not a child. Its the fact that CCP has too many things missing in this hollow shooter and still has many fixes. This thing should have stayed in Beta till they at least got all the basic race suits in the game. You're getting it all for free. 99% of other Devs charge you for more content. Would you prefer CCP move to a paid-for scheme, instead of giving it to you for free? Why must they rush? If you think rushing is the way to go, you obviously haven't been gaming for very long at all, because the amount of incomplete rushed games cannot be counted. Everything from minor glitches to game-breaking bugs sometimes never get worked on, because they choose instead to work on additional content. Do you want CCP to go down that road? Well lets see...its the fact that many other games have been released with A LOT more polish. Also really? Cause until 1.4 they've mostly just been adding new content before even working on aiming except when in April it was absolutely horrid.. Also they want this game to shine and succeed but that isn't going to work when your players just get annoyed by the lack of respecs when the game has MANY MANY things missing or just placeholders. CCP could be making themselves look A LOT better if they were still in beta. I don't have a blue tag next to my name. Take that up with them. |
Vesidar
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.07.27 21:38:00 -
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Honestly, even though I can understand why we would most likely not get a respec, it would be kinda disappointing. With one of the devs talking about the possibility of removing the turn-speed limitation on different size dropsuits and the strafing increase across the board, I probably would have majorly considered dumping my SP into something other than scouts. It feels like I'm slowly losing the small pros that I had, while simultaneously gaining nothing in return and keeping all the cons.
If they fix my suit, great, I'll be happy and not even care about the respec argument. But until they do, I'm all in favor of a respec so I can get into something that's not utterly useless and maybe actually be useful/have fun on the battlefield. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
1305
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:13:00 -
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Vesidar wrote:Honestly, even though I can understand why we would most likely not get a respec, it would be kinda disappointing. With one of the devs talking about the possibility of removing the turn-speed limitation on different size dropsuits and the strafing increase across the board, I probably would have majorly considered dumping my SP into something other than scouts. It feels like I'm slowly losing the small pros that I had, while simultaneously gaining nothing in return and keeping all the cons.
If they fix my suit, great, I'll be happy and not even care about the respec argument. But until they do, I'm all in favor of a respec so I can get into something that's not utterly useless and maybe actually be useful/have fun on the battlefield.
Hard to make an informed decision when everything keeps changing constantly huh?
but no... everyone wants you to wait, farm SP for 3-4 months and change you're specialization that way. You made a mistake specing into scouts, now you should live with the consequences of that decision.
What a great game... |
Th3rdSun
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
449
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:46:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I think its a bit short sighted to expect we're never gonna have another one.
A respec for 1.3? I don't think anyone was/is expecting that.
But I can gaurantee that by 1.7 the dropsuits will be completely different from what we have now... a respec will be necessary at some point... as you just can't make informed and reasonable decisions atm with all of the changes going on right now. Sorry,but I could only give you one "like".
The problem is that the changes are so many,and so frequent,that the only thing that you can rely on is the GEK and some of the scramble pistols,everything else is pretty much up for grabs at this point.
I've said it before and I'll say it again,CCP is building this game completely backwards.Every time they add more stuff,it's pretty much broken from day one,then it has to be rebalanced,and that's a MAJOR problem CONSIDERING THAT NOT EVEN HALF OF THE GUNS,DROPSUITS,AND VEHICLES AREN'T IN THE GAME!!!
This fix it as they go BS needs to stop.They should be doing major balances when all suits,guns,and vehicles are present in the game,not before.All it is doing is driving people away and making CCP look like they don't know how to properly make a shooter(which evidence shows that they don't). |
Xero The Mishima
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
299
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Posted - 2013.07.27 22:48:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Vesidar wrote:Honestly, even though I can understand why we would most likely not get a respec, it would be kinda disappointing. With one of the devs talking about the possibility of removing the turn-speed limitation on different size dropsuits and the strafing increase across the board, I probably would have majorly considered dumping my SP into something other than scouts. It feels like I'm slowly losing the small pros that I had, while simultaneously gaining nothing in return and keeping all the cons.
If they fix my suit, great, I'll be happy and not even care about the respec argument. But until they do, I'm all in favor of a respec so I can get into something that's not utterly useless and maybe actually be useful/have fun on the battlefield. Hard to make an informed decision when everything keeps changing constantly huh? but no... everyone wants you to wait, farm SP for 3-4 months and change you're specialization that way. You made a mistake specing into scouts, now you should live with the consequences of that decision. What a great game...
If they don't do this than we will quit playing the game. It's all a vicious cycle of scam. You spec into something you like it and it gets nerfed. It's only a matter of time before CCP listens to all the idiots and make the AR shoot 20m and spray like crazy. |
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