Is so they can reskill into the flavor of the month weapon/suit.

The TAR was the most used weapon and was mathematically proven to be on par with PRO blasters.

- It rightfully got nerfed, much to the chagrin of the forum.

The Caldari Logistic suit was proven to be by far the best suit in the game.

- It rightfully is getting nerfed, because there's little reason to use anything else.

Many are using the flaylock as the primary weapon, with another one as a secondary, or a mass driver as a secondary.

- It too, is rightfully getting nerfed, due to how overused it too is.


This is the only reason you all want a respec, so you can quickly skill into the next popular weapon/suit that 95% of the playerbase will start using right away. You don't deserve a respec, nor have you earned one. You act like selfish children.

Actually they did. I might try and dig it up when i have the time.

Please stop with this misinformation. They've never set no more SP refunds. They said no more SP resets.. as in resetting everyone to 500k lifetime SP.

Can people source these statements please?

Actually they did. I might try and dig it up when i have the time.

Players will be given a limited period in which to choose the optional full character reset, and the dates for choosing this option will be announced at a later time. This will be the last reset of the Mercenary Pack and Aurum packs, and no further resets will be available.

so people should cripple their playstyle and dust experience to wait for their racial suits

So essentially what you're saying is that people should stop playing the game and wait for 6-8 months until all of the dropsuits are out and they can make an informed decision on which progression path they want to go.

Sounds like a very healthy mindset to force on your playerbase!

CCP: "Hey player base, don't play for the next 6 months while we get our art and balance assets in order!"
Playerbase: "kthxbai! Time for BF4"

Crippling what? What are you talking about? If they're waiting for something, isn't it logical to set aside SP to get it, instead of wanting a respec to drop the thing that just got nerfed? Are you from this planet?

So essentially what you're saying is that people should stop playing the game and wait for 6-8 months until all of the dropsuits are out and they can make an informed decision on which progression path they want to go.

Sounds like a very healthy mindset to force on your playerbase!

CCP: "Hey player base, don't play for the next 6 months while we get our art and balance assets in order!"
Playerbase: "kthxbai! Time for BF4"

They have only said they won't rule it out but no more resets.

sp refunds for say, 3 new racial heavy suits coming out will most likely still happen. Even eve has refunded sp, rarely but it happens

Do you have at least 100,000 working brain cells? Are you serious? How could you even insinuate that that was what I was getting at? How could you possibly arrive at that conclusion?

A small part of me wants to give those FOTM players a refund so they all gravitate towards the next OP weapon and make CCP's job easier in balancing. Unfortunately since it takes a month for CCP to do anything, it'll be an infestation before something is done.

I can't find it at all...maybe it wasn't a CCP and it was a CPM. i dunno, i concede to you for now Zdub.

Is so they can reskill into the flavor of the month weapon/suit.

The TAR was the most used weapon and was mathematically proven to be on par with PRO blasters.

- It rightfully got nerfed, much to the chagrin of the forum.

The Caldari Logistic suit was proven to be by far the best suit in the game.

- It rightfully is getting nerfed, because there's little reason to use anything else.

Many are using the flaylock as the primary weapon, with another one as a secondary, or a mass driver as a secondary.

- It too, is rightfully getting nerfed, due to how overused it too is.


This is the only reason you all want a respec, so you can quickly skill into the next popular weapon/suit that 95% of the playerbase will start using right away. You don't deserve a respec, nor have you earned one. You act like selfish children.

Incorrect!!!!! I am a Pilot & the Pilot Dropsuit is what I need. Also the Amaar Tank (I assume Rail Enforcer) is my Intended Path. We have NEITHER & I am stuck in a Gallente HAV w/ a Minnie Suit in the meantime. No Cal Log, no TAC AR, no Gheylock.....& all the Fatties are lookin' @ you Cross-Eyed. Try again :P

The reason people want reset is they might LOVE playing minmatar suits who want to be a heavy are are being forced into playing Ammar or NOT PLAYING


How do you not understand this?

What about scouts? tank drivers? Why should I have to be froced to put unrefundable points in the caldari LAV when the 1st screenshot of the minmatar LAV was posted over a year ago? It's stupid.

No, that is not the only reason why people want respecs or at least specific tree respecs. I don't want a respec any time soon nor may I need one. But the way Dust is being developed its basically a game that was taken out of Beta WAY TOO EARLY. I mean heavies only have 1 race of suits to spec in at the moment, Scouts are limited to 2 races, many skill bonuses are just placeholders for the actual skills they plan to use, other weapons in some categories are placeholders for upcoming weapons.

I don't ask for a respec to because of balance changes I see that they are needed cause of the fact CCP is lacking in content for a supposedly "launched" game when many many things are missing or just placeholders. So I see partial respecs in skill trees where the particular gear and skills were overhauled and when everyone can at least spec into 1 of the 4 races in each category; Light, Medium, Heavy. Think respecs like these would actually encourage people to play into the new roles when they come out instead of focusing on the currently accessible role till its finished.

So no I'm not a child. Its the fact that CCP has too many things missing in this hollow shooter and still has many fixes. This thing should have stayed in Beta till they at least got all the basic race suits in the game.

So what's your suggestion for Heavies and Scouts?

I suppose you believe you know better than everyone else about what would be considered overpowered, and believe your opinion should count for more than any other person's. Attitudes like that are bad, and don't get people to respect you.

Everybody using spreadsheets and arithmetic are the best we have right now, because we don't have access to CCP's coding or the formulas they use. If you think you could do better, then by all means, prove it.

I love when EVE nerds shout mathematics like the numbers are the be all end all of the weapons level of power

DPS is a garbage statistic right up there with KDR. Especially when you factor in that AIMING IS NOT 100%. There are multiple factors that could result in shots missing, sorry you could survive a TAC user in the open if you knew what you were doing but a PRO blaster turret will shred you especially the scatter blasters.

TTK is a better utility of a weapons effectiveness. Moreover the comparison between the PRO Blasters and the TAR was one of the most laughable comparison id seen in gaming. Honestly the spreadsheet crowd are the biggest distraction when it comes to weapon balancing, its almost as bad as that guy who runs around using the number of AR kills he see in the killfeed as the significant data point that ARs are OP based on their utility.

You were forced to put SP into something? Did CCP Devs go to your house and tell you at gunpoint, that you must put 2.8mil SP into Caldari Logi LAV?

Fail thread

L2flux then lol at their 250 armor

This game is about counters... Adapt or die

Besides we should have been given unlimited respecs during Beta so we could have done more "Testing"

And i don't care what anyone says... This game is still a beta in my eyes

lol I love bad players who think it's all the weapon or the suit that kills them, and not that they just suck at aiming.

The reason we want respecs is because playing one class over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for months on end, and an incefdibly long grind to spec into something new makes the game boring. Respec so I can try new things.