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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 19:51:00 -
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Gallente Assault is not UP, without the presence of explosives and HMG I really don't see how this suit can be beaten in a 1v1. With 500+ Armor and a healing Nanohive, this suit is able to withstand heavy fire, the only thing missing is more people carrying ADV or PRO repair tools. Why is the Assault GK.0 rarely seen in pub matches? This thing absorbs damage from AR and Scrambler Rifle -_- |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:00:00 -
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You answered it yourself. Most people don't want to have to rely on a constant presence of repair sources.
The alternative is also self-repairing, faster-moving, shield suits that are resistant to the current OP weapons of the game.
Edit: the gallente assault is also not worth the x8 sp IMO. Nobody wants an improvement to shield recharge on the least shielded suits in the game, and the PG/CPU bonus pretty much demands that you use proto weaponry, despite modules often having a far greater impact on the effectiveness of a suit.
Combine that with the fact that the logi is infinitely superior for armour tanking and has increased PG/CPU to undermine the assault bonus. Nobody in their right mind would go Gallente assault for any playstyle I can think of. |
Cy Clone1
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:03:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Gallente Assault is not UP, without the presence of explosives and HMG I really don't see how this suit can be beaten in a 1v1. With 500+ Armor and a healing Nanohive, this suit is able to withstand heavy fire, the only thing missing is more people carrying ADV or PRO repair tools. Why is the Assault GK.0 rarely seen in pub matches? This thing absorbs damage from AR and Scrambler Rifle -_-
because cat merc scares people from using it when he goes on his rants. |
Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:04:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:You answered it yourself. Most people don't want to have to rely on a constant presence of repair sources.
The alternative is also self-repairing, faster-moving, shield suits that are resistant to the current OP weapons of the game.
Not gonna be OP next update, shield reps are nice but Caldari can't tank as much damage as the Gallente. The relationship is similar to the tanks but in this case Caldari can't put damage mods without sacrificing shields. |
Monty Mole Clone
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:06:00 -
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after actually fitting one of the standard gallente suits up i find it hard to believe that they are inferior in any way.
for example 3 enhanced plates on the std suit yields 550 armour, thats about 50 less than my proto amarr with 3 complex plates and its faster |
Dr Stabwounds
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:07:00 -
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This man is impossible to kill with a logi on his hip. Just sayin' |
Cy Clone1
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:09:00 -
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repeating what was said by Op, imagine if more logis started using repair tools. |
Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:09:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:after actually fitting one of the standard gallente suits up i find it hard to believe that they are inferior in any way.
for example 3 enhanced plates on the std suit yields 550 armour, thats about 50 less than my proto amarr with 3 complex plates and its faster
Unfortunately for STD and ADV suits it's a little harder to get the health back :l
In this case more teamwork is needed, so in a way Caldari is better in those two tiers and less SP intensive. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:09:00 -
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One cooked core locus grenade dropped on your head while you're in that bubble and it's a free kill |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:10:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:You answered it yourself. Most people don't want to have to rely on a constant presence of repair sources.
The alternative is also self-repairing, faster-moving, shield suits that are resistant to the current OP weapons of the game. Not gonna be OP next update, shield reps are nice but Caldari can't tank as much damage as the Gallente. The relationship is similar to the HAVs but in this case Caldari can't put damage mods without sacrificing shields.
The Caldari can, we're just deceived into thinking otherwise by base numbers. The speed penalty on armour plates makes armour far more susceptible to exactly the kind of weaponry they're weak to. |
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Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:11:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:repeating what was said by Op, imagine if more logis started using repair tools.
I forgot to mention the PRO nanite injector, for some miracle I was never revived by one in Uprising.  |
Auld Syne
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:11:00 -
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It's Alldin Kan for Gods sake. You really think your stats in that suit count for the general playerbase.
This guy could go 30-0 in a scout suit.
[information void] |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
917
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:12:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:after actually fitting one of the standard gallente suits up i find it hard to believe that they are inferior in any way.
for example 3 enhanced plates on the std suit yields 550 armour, thats about 50 less than my proto amarr with 3 complex plates and its faster
*sprints up in Minamatar light w/ mass driver* |
Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:13:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:You answered it yourself. Most people don't want to have to rely on a constant presence of repair sources.
The alternative is also self-repairing, faster-moving, shield suits that are resistant to the current OP weapons of the game. Not gonna be OP next update, shield reps are nice but Caldari can't tank as much damage as the Gallente. The relationship is similar to the HAVs but in this case Caldari can't put damage mods without sacrificing shields. The Caldari can, we're just deceived into thinking otherwise by base numbers. The speed penalty on armour plates makes armour far more susceptible to exactly the kind of weaponry they're weak to.
When aiming gets fixed (if ever...) then it won't matter much as we're going to get guaranteed hits on target regardless of speed (Heavy will suffer though). |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:15:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:repeating what was said by Op, imagine if more logis started using repair tools.
The first weeks of Uprising were to logis, what a locked room & baked beans are to a hero1n addict. |
xLTShinySidesx
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:17:00 -
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I run cal logi on my alt, and I actually have always run it as a logi... Rep tool, healing hives, and injector, still have 613 ehp.... I have an amarr logi suit on this guy that has the same setup but has 601 ehp, if people only realized how nuts the WP's are when you run these suits as a slayer logi instead of just a slayer. |
Monty Mole Clone
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:17:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Monty Mole Clone wrote:after actually fitting one of the standard gallente suits up i find it hard to believe that they are inferior in any way.
for example 3 enhanced plates on the std suit yields 550 armour, thats about 50 less than my proto amarr with 3 complex plates and its faster Unfortunately for STD and ADV suits it's a little harder to get the health back :l In this case more teamwork is needed, so in a way Caldari is better in those two tiers and less SP intensive.
just sayin they are not as crap as some people would make them out to be, even if team work is required its probably a good thing |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:18:00 -
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Monty Mole Clone wrote:after actually fitting one of the standard gallente suits up i find it hard to believe that they are inferior in any way.
for example 3 enhanced plates on the std suit yields 550 armour, thats about 50 less than my proto amarr with 3 complex plates and its faster
His complaints are about armor tanking, so comparing one armor tanked suit to another really doesn't do much to highlight the issues being complained about. |
The Final Fantasy
Regime Of Shadow Marines
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:19:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:repeating what was said by Op, imagine if more logis started using repair tools. I forgot to mention the PRO nanite injector, for some miracle I was never revived by one in Uprising.
sadly it always about wp, ppl rather revive you with a militia injector and heal the rest with the rep tool giving them 60wp [x4(25wp)] rather then healing you for that 80% and getting one more extra 25wp  |
Promethius Franklin
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:24:00 -
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The Final Fantasy wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Cy Clone1 wrote:repeating what was said by Op, imagine if more logis started using repair tools. I forgot to mention the PRO nanite injector, for some miracle I was never revived by one in Uprising. sadly it always about wp, ppl rather revive you with a militia injector and heal the rest with the rep tool giving them 60wp [x4(25wp)] rather then healing you for that 80% and getting one more extra 25wp
Not everyone has a proto nanite injector. I use the 50% because that is the best I've got. |
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:26:00 -
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last 3 non-OMS ambush games in a caldari assault, no triage hives required: 22-0, 20-0, 19-0
can't wait for that free 40 shields when 1.3 hits. |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:29:00 -
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if you're using repping nanohives you've probably got a nice logi skillset anyway.
Armor plates have insane speed penalties, narrowing the mobility gap between the logi and the assault
Explosives are everywhere.
Skill bonus is completely worthless.
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IRON PATRIOT 1
Pure Innocence.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:29:00 -
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Cy Clone1 wrote:repeating what was said by Op, imagine if more logis started using repair tools.
I use mine |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:31:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:Gallente Assault is not UP, without the presence of explosives and HMG I really don't see how this suit can be beaten in a 1v1. With 500+ Armor and a healing Nanohive, this suit is able to withstand heavy fire, the only thing missing is more people carrying ADV or PRO repair tools. Why is the Assault GK.0 rarely seen in pub matches? This thing absorbs damage from AR and Scrambler Rifle -_-
Bet My SMGs would face **** you |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:32:00 -
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Gallente suit is fine ...is definitely much better than the Commando suit ..
I normally run Caldari.. and honestly i can't see that much of a difference, i still getting very similar scores. |
Bojo The Mighty
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:32:00 -
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What plates were you using Kan? I saw you in a match and took position with a Sniper but you were strafing on top of some pipes over your repair Hive, and you had, what seems to be, an insane strafing speed for all that armor. |
ReGnYuM
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:34:00 -
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Oh and because everyone is doing it...
25-0 18-0 21-0 regular ambush
My Minmatar Assault is designed for 1v1 engagements |
Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:36:00 -
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Oh wonderful -_-
Just tried making a "good" STD/ADV Gallente but so far it's becoming difficult to give it good survivalbility... |
Alldin Kan
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:37:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:Gallente Assault is not UP, without the presence of explosives and HMG I really don't see how this suit can be beaten in a 1v1. With 500+ Armor and a healing Nanohive, this suit is able to withstand heavy fire, the only thing missing is more people carrying ADV or PRO repair tools. Why is the Assault GK.0 rarely seen in pub matches? This thing absorbs damage from AR and Scrambler Rifle -_- Bet My SMGs would face **** you
My scrambler pistol will melt your suit, it's the truth.  |
WhataguyTTU
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2013.07.25 20:39:00 -
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Lol alldin how can you lose 1v1s anyway when you love to rep yourself from your logi lav?
Its still better then running folks over so kinda a +1 for you.
Also, figured it out btw, It's no longer a secret anymore! (^ m ^)
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