To add context to that quote in the OP


The reson CCP will be in a tough spot, is because 1.4 is far from 1.3 in terms of what it will bring. 1.3 is what anyone would call 'minor fixes'. 1.4 on the other hand...

From what was pitched to us, 1.4 will be making pretty massive changes to major aspects of core gameplay. It might be a point release, but it is not going to be minor by any definition. We're still waiting for the word from the bigwigs at the time of this posts as to what exactly we can divule from the 1.4 plan we recieved today... But rest assured - When you hear it, you're going to share our cautious optimism that this is the first step in a serious, deep dive towards making dust not suck at it's core level.

If this update somehow fails, that is why CCP will be in trouble. I'm not saying that all of these features will be perfect, because we don't know the nitty-gritty yet and have no way to playtest it. However, at least in telling us what they changed and how they changed it... We're pretty much unanimous in our optimism for 1.4 being a massive step forward, and the first real proof that this new, high speed development strategies and leadership structure is paying off.


Oh, and sorry for interrupting your PC banter with srsbsns. Carry on, Gents!

False, like it or not, you're in a farmville alliance, nobody cares about the big alliances because they're full of mongs. The action is with the indie corps, don't like it? Do what SI seem to be doing, sell your districts to the smaller corps and let them flourish for a bit, when they're stronger come back and start a war, but seriously these big 15 corp alliances will do nobody any favours in the long run.

Speaking from a viewpoint outside all the Corp bullshit.

lol Seraphim Iirrelevant

I find it really funny coming from the very corp that attack Dust University the first week of PC. Take your hypocritical bullshit elsewhere.

At least EoN didn't go out of its way to attack smaller corps to try and get more land. At least EoN has given / sold districts to smaller corps BEFORE you ever thought about doing it.

Now you're selling districts acting like you're doing the community a favor. EoN been doing this a lot longer than you have sir. Get off your wannabe high horse. Fact is your alliance was the most arrogant out there, and for what? Pressing X on as many districts as possible?

No wonder so many people blued up against you.

This honestly is both the players and CCP's fault. Keep staying under the same alliance only to find out that you will all get bored one day because you have no purpose to fight or anything for that matter to contend on. Think about it.

Lance m8, I usually find you amusing but I'm beginning to find you becoming more and more like a ******* mongoloid. All of our corps are nonfactors, who the **** cares if we hold some territory? You guys keep preaching "Hypocrite" and I sit here wondering how? Do I look like a director to you? Do you think I really care how much land my corp held or what they did to achieve it? I wanted to fight somewhat decent players, I found them, I got my ass handed too me as well as dishing out some severe damage. Unlike you Infantry scrubs, Tankers are good willed people, and aren't bothered by petty scrubs squabbles.

On DUST Uni, it was a tactical approach, you can bullshit me as much as you want, but you really think SI was the only one who was going to attack them? No, let them stay there and eventually they would've been taken by any number of corps, I can see that and I'm not even decent at strategy. iirc DUST Uni were being reallocated. In the beginning it was all out, everyone was pumped and this was going to be the start of epic battles, it wasn't.

*shrugs* I don't care who "started" doing it, I'm talking to you from a neutral standpoint, Corp bullshit should be in the war room, if you can't separate the game from discussing and making improvements it's sad.

I don't sit on a high horse, I just tell you what's going on, the indie corp leaders very happy that they're about to get into PC because they now have a district of their own, the enthusiasm that I lost about a month into it and maybe that we should be doing more of it, because right now you're the farmers of DUST, our alliance may be arrogant, it's hilarious to watch you guys get hyped up about it, and when you get hyped up, everybody wants to fight, it's great.


TL;DR give up Lance, forget the corp **** in GD, instead focus on what we can take out of this. Indie corps are having a lot more fun the these big ass alliances, I'm not a director, I'm a tanker who enjoys good fights, don't blame me for leadership decisions (You know, I was quite disappointed with the CRONOS alliance, I would've enjoyed fighting EU corps, Americans are bad in general ;) )

I am tired of ppl asking for glitter. I don't want more guns or cars or even custom pain suits. I want a reason to want to keep playing - in a persistent world where actions are supposed to have consequences, I want a setting where what I do makes some difference. This was the grand promis of Dust. Look at what actually is happening. PC is dead. FW literally is meaningless to me. Killboards are are a joke, basically it's a proxy for who's the best cal logi farmer. And the game offers nothing else.

My problem is you keep throwing jabs at EoN and saying we're the bad guys. "You ruined PC, and you're chasing away indie corps"

Basically is what you're inferring.

I'm no director either. I call it how i see it. Attacking DUST uni was a **** move. You know it, and I know it. Don't sugar coat it by saying "it was a tactical move". EoN gave Dust Uni a district or 2 in the end.

I laugh when you, of ALL PEOPLE IN PC, call us the farmers. Bro, you've been doing that from day 1 of PC. We've fought 2 wars to get where we're at.

You're blaming us for the very thing you did...irony at its finest.

Bottom line is, EoN is not stopping anyone from getting into PC. As you've seen Cubs has done allot of work on the front. Or you can choose to ignore the facts and point fingers.

Not our fault players left cuz the game got boring which led to less competition, which led to PC being how it is now. Point your fingers at CCP.

too late... GTA 5, then PS4 is out by then.

I don't know how adding a map, a new gun, a new suit, is a major deal to add. They can fix a million things but won't add something new? lol?

But seriously bro, get back to the wheat fields.

Well, when they try to do it quickly stuff like the flaylock happens.
Do you really want another flaylock?

resumes to troll a discussion when he has nothing relevant left to say

CCP's already in a tough spot.

1.4 might be CCP's last leg. The bell lap of the race.

I honestly HOPE there's new content in 1.4 and not just fixes. People are grateful for the minor fixes, but the lack of content and the lack of reason to play other than grinding SP is chasing people away.

Look I have all the stuff I need for my role and then some, so SP grinding means nothing anymore. I'm a competitive gamer and came here for PC and corp matches. Now PC is dead.

I have no new heavy suit to skill into, I have no new pistol I want to try. I have no new map to play on. I have no new game mode to tryout. I have no reason to play FW.

These are problems that existed for far too long.

Now this isn't just about a "doom and gloom" post. There were some decent points made by the CPM. I'm sure IWS will post all the Q&A.

But this quote is what grabbed my attention cuz if the CPM knows this, then CCP knows this. So I hope they realize adding new content will go a long way in keeping some players playing DUST.

This honestly is both the players and CCP's fault. Keep staying under the same alliance only to find out that you will all get bored one day because you have no purpose to fight or anything for that matter to contend on. Think about it.

To add context to that quote in the OP


The reson CCP will be in a tough spot, is because 1.4 is far from 1.3 in terms of what it will bring. 1.3 is what anyone would call 'minor fixes'. 1.4 on the other hand...

From what was pitched to us, 1.4 will be making pretty massive changes to major aspects of core gameplay. It might be a point release, but it is not going to be minor by any definition. We're still waiting for the word from the bigwigs at the time of this posts as to what exactly we can divule from the 1.4 plan we recieved today... But rest assured - When you hear it, you're going to share our cautious optimism that this is the first step in a serious, deep dive towards making dust not suck at it's core level.

If this update somehow fails, that is why CCP will be in trouble. I'm not saying that all of these features will be perfect, because we don't know the nitty-gritty yet and have no way to playtest it. However, at least in telling us what they changed and how they changed it... We're pretty much unanimous in our optimism for 1.4 being a massive step forward, and the first real proof that this new, high speed development strategies and leadership structure is paying off.


Oh, and sorry for interrupting your PC banter with srsbsns. Carry on, Gents!

How does ANYONE think this game will prosper if its the same CORPs in the SAME alliances. There is NO reason to play what-so-ever. Where are the Merc's / Pirates groups? Where have all the districts gone? PC is dead because people who decide to be under the same TIT wont man up and do their own things. This game is about being A MERC, not a damn corporation. This game will die to due; No Competition, No Purpose in fighting and Nothing new added/ fixed. There should be a cap on how many corps can be in alliances 3-5 (depending on size). Bottom Line.

Listen, if people didn't get bored, and left DUST / PC there would still be more corps playing which = more competition.

I don't get your point about how alliances destroyed PC

You're blaming us, for getting ready for a mechanic that CCP has in place??? Seriously??!!

Its a load of **** that a lot of the balancing updates are being integrated into the client updates. A lot of things can be done in hotfixes server side especially values like weapon range, dmg, modules, base values on suits etc that we already have.

AImiing and hit detection may require client code fixes but the other stuff can be rolled out ahead of time. Look at the changes made to PC they were introduced ahead of 1.3. This is just CCP using every bit of deadlines and slowing down the process as a result.

There is quite a bit that can be done server side or at least that what they led people at FF to believe.

1.5 is the vehicle patch

Wolfman is the vehicle dev now

2months to make or break