I don't expect major new content till 2.0

I'm not a huge competitive gamer myself, and I only came to Dust because of what it promised, I could care less about multiplayer, I hardly ever play it.

Dust can still be fun for me, and I'll stay with it. Hopefully 1.4 will be good, but I'm not expecting anything HUGE.

So yeah, there is content in 1.4

"PC is dead" because without an actual eve sov tie-in it is meaningless. Not defending CCP by any means, but try to see more than three inches in front of your collective faces.

This honestly is both the players and CCP's fault. Keep staying under the same alliance only to find out that you will all get bored one day because you have no purpose to fight or anything for that matter to contend on. Think about it.

CCP needs to take some more steps to integrate Dust with Eve.

Im talking to a brick wall at this point and wasting my time, if you don't see it then the standard grunt wont. And I have actually been noticed and hired out only problem AGAIN, how can you expect ANYONE to fight for a district or planet at this point in time if they are easily wiped out by alliance influence? It's common sense, unless CCP implements a cap on certain parts of the galaxy where people who exceed X amount of players in their CORP cant fight in it.

QQ about EoN ruining PC

Your bored of this game? Then do something about it. You want more Corps? Make up your own. Want new players in this game? Teach/ Show them the trade of this game and push for guerrilla marketing. You can't expect a toddler to go into college on his first day of school and do well, it's completely irrational and out of the question.

"QQ about EoN ruining PC" never have I once said that, grow up. If your not going to actually help shape the future of this game then step aside, I came to this game because I WANTED to enjoy the experience that CCP has created and I'm not about to have it wasted by some "hotshot" on the internet who thinks the direction of this game currently is alright. Again either help the smaller Corps out/ expand this game or just be stuck in the same bubble your in.

what? No. If I'm bored, I'll leave.

I'm not here to hold hands and stuff like that. I don't mind helping people, but I won't help people that won't help themselves. How about try to attack someone?

You know what I personally did to a corp that attacked us that was a small corp? I gave each person on their team 5 million ISK, and told them "good effort. Talk to our CEO about getting a district"

You act like we're all bullies, and just stomp on new corps all the time. I don't even think we EVER attacked a small / new corp. There's no competition in that.

If you choose to hold people's hands and stuff like that, feel free. Personally I'm not. I'll help in my own way.

I would prefer if the current content works well and is balanced before they add more stuff and complicate stuff.
Let 1.4/1.5 be fixes, after that add content.

You think money is going to change anything? That's like throwing money at a poor person and saying to them "Invest that in the stock market, good luck." That's cruel.

You obviously have no idea what I'm talking about and instead wasting my time. I will just consult with Mavado and Cookie.

False, like it or not, you're in a farmville alliance, nobody cares about the big alliances because they're full of mongs. The action is with the indie corps, don't like it? Do what SI seem to be doing, sell your districts to the smaller corps and let them flourish for a bit, when they're stronger come back and start a war, but seriously these big 15 corp alliances will do nobody any favours in the long run.

Speaking from a viewpoint outside all the Corp bullshit.

Lance m8, I usually find you amusing but I'm beginning to find you becoming more and more like a ******* mongoloid. All of our corps are nonfactors, who the **** cares if we hold some territory? You guys keep preaching "Hypocrite" and I sit here wondering how? Do I look like a director to you? Do you think I really care how much land my corp held or what they did to achieve it? I wanted to fight somewhat decent players, I found them, I got my ass handed too me as well as dishing out some severe damage. Unlike you Infantry scrubs, Tankers are good willed people, and aren't bothered by petty scrubs squabbles.

On DUST Uni, it was a tactical approach, you can bullshit me as much as you want, but you really think SI was the only one who was going to attack them? No, let them stay there and eventually they would've been taken by any number of corps, I can see that and I'm not even decent at strategy. iirc DUST Uni were being reallocated. In the beginning it was all out, everyone was pumped and this was going to be the start of epic battles, it wasn't.

*shrugs* I don't care who "started" doing it, I'm talking to you from a neutral standpoint, Corp bullshit should be in the war room, if you can't separate the game from discussing and making improvements it's sad.

I don't sit on a high horse, I just tell you what's going on, the indie corp leaders very happy that they're about to get into PC because they now have a district of their own, the enthusiasm that I lost about a month into it and maybe that we should be doing more of it, because right now you're the farmers of DUST, our alliance may be arrogant, it's hilarious to watch you guys get hyped up about it, and when you get hyped up, everybody wants to fight, it's great.


TL;DR give up Lance, forget the corp **** in GD, instead focus on what we can take out of this. Indie corps are having a lot more fun the these big ass alliances, I'm not a director, I'm a tanker who enjoys good fights, don't blame me for leadership decisions (You know, I was quite disappointed with the CRONOS alliance, I would've enjoyed fighting EU corps, Americans are bad in general ;) )

But seriously bro, get back to the wheat fields.

Well, when they try to do it quickly stuff like the flaylock happens.
Do you really want another flaylock?

I get your point, but we don't have a BF2142 type of Gibraltar map or Titan (MCC for Dust) boarding to really force choke-point (indoor) battle lines either (maybe we'll discover that Nova Knives really are OP?). I'm just a bit bitter that we lost our 'Rush' conquest game mode even though it has been considered a standard team FPS element for many years.

As for Eve tie-ins, I doubt the people who code FPS core mechanics are the same ones building "new" game-modes or tie-ins with Faction Warfare or PI or SOV mechanics. I wouldn't be surprised if 1.4 included some additional Eve tie-ins.

I didn't enjoy Dust when I first played. I stuck with it.... well because it's free. Lately I've begun to actually enjoy it. Even with all the bugs, and the "failure" that people say Uprising was, I feel like it's still a lot of fun. Even if I had everything I wanted specc'd into, I'd still play, because it's a game, that's supposed to be fun.

I don't play for SP, I don't play for ISK and I certainly don't care about "being better than X Corp". The pissing contest can take place in the bathroom, I'm in the game room having fun.

That said, the fact that people are clamouring for new content is a good sign that the core game is better than it was.

Really PC I think PC is one of the worst Ideas this isn't about us owning land if you want to sit around and farmville play EVE and join a big alliance and do PI, mercs should be fighting for capsuleers on the ground and in space.
Sorry for the Rant, just an personal belief.

While it's true in a practical sense, I would have to ultimately disagree. CCP has all these ideas in their heads about where they want to go and what they think that next step is. The problem is, we are taking the step and they are watching the reaction.

I believe this relationship should be deeper and that rather than being reactive we become proactive. What do we want to see in a month? 2 months? 2.0? A year?

To begin with, I see features like PC and FC having lots of potential for long-term growth, but initially a very confined experience.

Personally I believe the 2 features that need to be implemented are:
- Secondary Market ---> Evolving value of ISK and the essence of universal player interaction. Very clear, numerical measures of inflation, unbalanced equipment, weapon popularity, etc. Lot's of value for everyone to look at.
- Boarding Parties ----> Simple, small maps aboard ships spawned by a Eve Weapon, "pod-launcher". Time-sensitive missions with a chance of opposing PvP (if clones aboard)...engaging and vital opportunities to cause real problems and destruction in New Eden (even if only allowed in High and Low-sec). Also allows for a highly desirable feeling of depth and accomplishment along with a sense of unknown and exploration.

I am confident that if we could even get a basic version of this in 2 months, we could launch this game into unlimited potential. We become self-aware on the market and in a grander scheme, we become living ammo...and ammo sees a lot of action in New Eden.