Nah, despite you thinking you're right, you're wrong.

If it was that, it'd be Orders of Magnitude better.

I chose my dropsuits for what I saw as the "fun factor", not so I could be some min/maxing crybaby when the inevitable balancing pass comes along.

Chunky Munkey for President. +1

So what you are saying is that you try to forecast what nerfs will come and you use equipment that is less likely to be nerfed? Do you think that is a recipe for success for a video game? Honestly?

I'm picturing Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh. "Well I'd like to use XXX but I'm sure they'll nerf it at some point so I'll just stick with what I'm doing".

I'd rather have a fun game that allows me to change my path.

I would love to be a scout shotgun player right now, but it would take me two months to do it. And if I don't end up liking it and I'm bored with the role I was in before?

I totally understand CCP's business model and "code of skill progression" in Eve. I get it, I don't need an explanation here. Perhaps they can/should adopt it for Dust when the game is somewhat close to a finished product (and again I understand how the development is supposed to happen). RIght now they need to do whatever it takes to keep players around.

Yeah, DOOM 'N' GLOOM on Aisle 6!!!

No, you're the one nerfing your support effectiveness.
You spoke about swapping your equipment for lower tier stuff. What about your AR?
You want to be assault, and you're fooling nobody.
You want combat effectiveness reduced? They nerfed it's health. Logic much?

You still have one more low slot than you're supposed to. Stick a CPU extender on, and you'll be on the same footing as the other logis.

Like I've said before. I talk and play with a lot of people. I've been around a long time. I'm not sure how anyone can not be concerned with the amount of players leaving the game.

I love how the HTFU crowd are the people who can't manage to take a single point in PC matches, or spend most of their time in the negative side of k/d ratios in pubs. They obviously understand game mechanics.

I love how the HTFU crowd are the people who can't manage to take a single point in PC matches, or spend most of their time in the negative side of k/d ratios in pubs. They obviously understand game mechanics.

I love how the "elites" are the ones crying for respecs when their OP FOTMs get faceraped with a balancebat.

Lol.

I love how the "elites" are the ones crying for respecs when their OP FOTMs get faceraped with a balancebat.

Lol.

Run a Gal Logi with SCR and armor tanked to the nuts, still leet and still think respecs are warranted. move along peasant

No, you're the one nerfing your support effectiveness.
You spoke about swapping your equipment for lower tier stuff. What about your AR?
You want to be assault, and you're fooling nobody.
You want combat effectiveness reduced? They nerfed it's health. Logic much?

You still have one more low slot than you're supposed to. Stick a CPU extender on, and you'll be on the same footing as the other logis.

i guess if i dumped all my sp into the missile pistol like a noob i'd be crying too...

I have 20 million SP... If was offered a respec the only reason I would even consider dropping calidari logi is the fear that CCP would do something like add a damage reduction to the suit or limit us to side arms. The point we are trying to get across is that being a repping logi is not at all viable in the game. The arguement we are making is it is ludacris for us to be making permanent decisions when CCP hasn't implemented in all the racial suits and all the suits in the game are subject to wide sweeping changes without SP refunds. Furthermore no high end player is going to run multiple different suits for different roles because sensitivity is tied to movement speed. For example I cannot change from a cal logi to assault mid game because that also changes my mouse sensitivity. For people who train reflexes, which is most FPS players, this is extremely frustrating and makes for a terrible experience.

1) the vast majority of the playerbase is shield tanked so armor reppers are usless unless you are going to stand behind a heavy all game.

2) The game modes are limited to 16 v 16, at this size a team cannot sacrifice killers for pure support players. EVERONE has to be a killer on the fields. Assault suites are the best with increased sprint & movement speed as well as a larger regen tick. However logi's still must be able to hold their own in a fight aswell, if not they are nothing more than a liability on the field.

3) In competitive matches the only must have equipment for logi's to carry is the proto uplink, after that everything else is just simply nice to have. Which I would say providing uplinks for the team is filling that "logistics" role. Remember in most places logistics is as much providing transportation as it is repairing. Rez tools are useless due to the few seconds the player is motionless during the rez as skilled opponents will tearm through even the most hardy heavys before they are able to gain control.

4) If logi's are nerfed to be comepletelyt combat ineffective, competitive teams will only bring 1-2 logi suits with them, both with equipment slots filled with nothing but uplinks, and their slot layouts built for speed.

TLDR: lol scrubs think they know what they are talking about.

In a sense, Dust is my first MMO. My introduction to a long lasting and ever changeing environment.

As a shooter player I'm used to having the possibility to respec and change my role on a regular basis.

This is normally an essential part of any shooter game.


Then Dust comes a long and phrases like "make informed choises" and "living with the consequences" comes a long and I think, hm, lets give it a go, I can be pretty smart when I want to.

So the game finally "launches" and I get lots and lots of choices regarding what suit and role I'm supposed to play. And seeing that I need about 1.5 month just to spec into another suit, I did not take that decision lighlty.

I really wanted to go for th Minmatar assault suit, with its speed being the carrot. I did in the end decide to go for the most combat fitted Logi suit.

I ran the numbers, on almost every suit, I made an informed decision about what i wanted to do.

2 moths later the suits stats are changed to the point where its reasonable to believe that I wouldn't have specced into it in the first place. I would have gone with the minmatar assault suit instead. Same goes for the 930 K skillpoints I've used on both a proto kinetic catalysor and proto armor plates. Such a waste.



So this is "making informed decisions" and "living with the consequenses"?

- Can someone please tell me whats so great about it? I don't get it.