Great.

If it was so obviously obvious that the suit was OP from the start, why did they make it like this in the first place?

CCP makes big mistake - player new to MMOs follow all the advice and think carefully about what he specs into - would have specced into assault if the numbers where what they will be after 1.3 - player gets punished by incompetent developer - players leave game (would have done that anyway tbh) - no one gains anything except for the chest thumping tards going HTFU

-Some players start another almost 3 M skillpoint grind, goes and buy more boosters....

it makes sense from a marketing standpoint up to the point when there is no customer base left.

Wjhy they simply won't give players the chance to respec the skills going into the suit is beyond me. CCP makes a mistake and all Cal Logi players have to suffer from it....


IF this is normal practice in most MMO games I find it hard to believe why they are so popular. Grind and grind some more, rinse and repeat when it gets nerfed. Then some more grinding. The part of this community that means this is how a game should be run can all stay behind in this soon to be very exclusive club. You all suck.

So many, replies, I'll try and sum it up:

1. I am very tired of people claiming I chose this suit because "its the best killing machine", I do believe that the cal assault suit is superior to the logi fit, peple put WAY too much emphasis on max tank and forget speed, stamina, shield recharge and sidearm which in sum equals - 99 cpu and two slots to even the diffrences out, and even then the the assault suit will still have better stats on the mentioned "non tank" qualities.

2. I have never run this suit without usng all my 3 equipment slots, I have almost everything but repair tool at proto level.

3. I have never had more than 700 HP on it. (588 shields +112 armor) or (497 shields + 112+65 armor = 671)

- Running more HP than this will make the suit way too slow in terms of shield regen and movement speed, it only works for the more campy players taking their time, I'm not a patient player...

4. For all intents and purposes I have run this suit as a Logi suit carrying uplinks, medkit, scanners, hives, anti vehicle mines and REs. I have not run with a repper since most around m are shield tanked anyway.

5. I do not fear at all for my coming combat effectiveness, a new calculation has shown me that It'll be just as good for combat, I only lose 66 points of shields, while keeping everything else as is. (Not cunting equipment)

So what if I have to swap to a basic medkit instead of proto, it still gets the job done right?

And I will most likely still destroy and generally own whatever players I stomp in games today, not much will change.



So what has got me worked up like this?

The way it was handled. This change will turn me from an actual logi into more of a tryhard logi, it will have the exact opposite effect than intended. And I highly doubt that I'm alone in this...

And its the general principle of spending 6 weeks grinding for something that turns out to be something else a short while after due to a calculator battery failure at CCP, wihout being given the opportunity to make a new "informed choice" based on new data.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, removing a high slot would most likely have done the trick. It reduces max tank by 87.5 HP and even further the difficulity of carrying damage mods. I believe a sort of fix that only affect the combat side and not the logi side of things is the way to go...

Reading comprehension????

They in effect nerfed my ability as a logi more than my ability to be a fighter. It's the wrong way of doing it.

They could easily have reduced my role as a fighter without me having to sacrifice more of it to keep my support role up to speed.

You mean stick another CPU extender on it?

The rest is just carebear jibberish, no one should sacrifice their combat effectiveness in a FPS game.

Wrong he picked up a logistics suit. In no uncertain terms is there any restriction in this game to use it as an assualt suit. That the whole point of sandbox games. Its CCP's job to make the suits balanced around what they envision in the first place.

FYI the Minmatar vk.1 was universally a better assault suit in choromosome then Caldari assaut suits in every way imaginable but people didnt have a respec option to use them immediately and suffer thtrough having to grind through the entire logistics suits tree to get to them.

Point is CCP screws up and then expects the players to avoid their screwups. Also point of fact if people didnt spec into those suits it wouldnt be getting adjusted. If it was sooo obvious CCP would catch the mistake right swsy, but they dont they are passive in their balancing and use the data metrics to guide their decisions more then player feedback. We told them within minutes of Uprising being launched about the Cal logi yet we dont see any changes till 2 months later, oh yea they are totally clued into their game.

Sorry its not our job to wait on CCP to get there head out of their ass if people are trying to keep a competitive edge. Its CCP's job to release balanced content and when they dont to offer partial respecs in areas where they change items. If they dont the avoidance that everyons suggest will take even longer to see balance tweek because CCP wont act on anything until their internal metrics tell them otherwise. You honestly think they give a **** about what we tell them they dont. They dont do anything until the pub data shows them they ****** up.

Chunky Munkey for President. +1

No, you're the one nerfing your support effectiveness.
You spoke about swapping your equipment for lower tier stuff. What about your AR?
You want to be assault, and you're fooling nobody.
You want combat effectiveness reduced? They nerfed it's health. Logic much?

You still have one more low slot than you're supposed to. Stick a CPU extender on, and you'll be on the same footing as the other logis.