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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3519
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:41:00 -
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1.3 patch notes... The only thing other than Cal Logi, Flaylock and Fused nades nerf that I found exciting was "smoothed out player movement in the distance", that was really annoying.
Other than that, I'm surprised by how tiny this patch is. Is this really all CCP did in a month? |
Jaqen Morghalis
Abandoned Privilege General Tso's Alliance
206
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:1.3 patch notes... The only thing other than Cal Logi, Flaylock and Fused nades nerf that I found exciting was "smoothed out player movement in the distance", that was really annoying. Other than that, I'm surprised by how tiny this patch is. Is this really all CCP did in a month?
TBH, I was expecting more, too. |
Noc Tempre
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2287
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:43:00 -
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Sometimes knowing isn't better after all... |
xSaloLx
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
44
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:43:00 -
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I recall somewhere saying that this was going to be a relatively small update due to them switching to more frequent updates, and the low content this update was to help with the transition. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6463
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:45:00 -
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1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3519
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. How is 1.4 going to be any different. Both get a single month after all... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6463
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:48:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. How is 1.4 going to be any different? Both get a single month after all...
1.4 is better versed and more used to the new schedule, also things that been on the stove are about to get done cooking or got done shortly after 1.3 code lock. This is provided QA doesn't gut them out. Also code lock isn't in yet so CPM will have some voicing into it. |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3520
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. How is 1.4 going to be any different? Both get a single month after all... 1.4 is better versed and more used to the new schedule, also things that been on the stove are about to get done cooking or got done shortly after 1.3 code lock. This is provided QA doesn't gut them out. Also code lock isn't in yet so CPM will have some voicing into it. So we're going to have a bi monthly big update and a bi monthly small update? I.E 1.3 small, 1.4 big, 1.5 small, 1.6 big? What's the point of monthly releases then? Most of the stuff in 1.3 sounds like stuff you put into hot fixes more than anything. |
KING CHECKMATE
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
387
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:51:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:1.3 patch notes... The only thing other than Cal Logi, Flaylock and Fused nades nerf that I found exciting was "smoothed out player movement in the distance", that was really annoying. Other than that, I'm surprised by how tiny this patch is. Is this really all CCP did in a month?
It might be small but solves every single issue i have wit the game at the moment, so +1 from me. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3467
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:51:00 -
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Seriously, OP? You weren't paying attention this whole month? I knew for the past couple of weeks that 1.3 was going to be this small just by reading the dev blogs and various dev posts here in the forums. That and following Iron Wolf and Hans.
If you were expecting more, than you need to pay more attention. |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3520
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:53:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Seriously, OP? You weren't paying attention this whole month? I knew for the past couple of weeks that 1.3 was going to be this small just by reading the dev blogs and various dev posts here in the forums. That and following Iron Wolf and Hans.
If you were expecting more, than you need to pay more attention. Dude, I am on IRC all the time, I KNEW this update is going to be small, but I didn't expect it to be THAT small. This stuff is the kind of stuff you would find in hotfixes more than anything. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
306
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:55:00 -
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Aiming in 1.4 ? |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
745
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:56:00 -
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Big Buff for the Red-line snipers ... now they can go deeper into the red-line and see all the way across the map...
Also big buff to the LLAV's... no they are even harder to kill.
-Contact grenades: -Lowered ammo count to 1 -Homogenised PG/CPU -Homogenised blast damage and radius
But hey!! is all good..We have ;
-Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon
And a bunch of fixes to bugs that most people don't even know they exist.
So instead of fixing problems ... you creating new ones CCP? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6464
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:57:00 -
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As for content in 1.4 I am still under NDA so bleh.... I'll see if I can get some permissions once the code lock sets in. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1411
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:58:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Big Buff for the Red-line snipers ... now they can go deeper into the red-line and see all the way across the map...
Also big buff to the LLAV's... no they are even harder to kill.
-Contact grenades: -Lowered ammo count to 1 -Homogenised PG/CPU -Homogenised blast damage and radius
But hey!! is all good..We have ;
-Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon
And a bunch of fixes to bugs that most people don't even know they exist.
So instead of fixing problems ... you creating new ones CCP? How did LLAVs get a buff? |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
848
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Posted - 2013.07.23 23:59:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. How is 1.4 going to be any different? Both get a single month after all... 1.4 is better versed and more used to the new schedule, also things that been on the stove are about to get done cooking or got done shortly after 1.3 code lock. This is provided QA doesn't gut them out. Also code lock isn't in yet so CPM will have some voicing into it. So we're going to have a bi monthly big update and a bi monthly small update? I.E 1.3 small, 1.4 big, 1.5 small, 1.6 big? What's the point of monthly releases then? Most of the stuff in 1.3 sounds like stuff you put into hot fixes more than anything.
Whats the point? to fix glaring issues in updates sooner, instead of waiting for big updates every 3 months while bugs and glitches continue to drag down. this way they can patch outstanding issues sooner so when a patch drops if something is F'ed up they can fix it withing the month in most cases instead of having to wait another 3 months to fix it. |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
9
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:00:00 -
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Doesn't the PC things count as 1.3? |
Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3520
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:01:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. How is 1.4 going to be any different? Both get a single month after all... 1.4 is better versed and more used to the new schedule, also things that been on the stove are about to get done cooking or got done shortly after 1.3 code lock. This is provided QA doesn't gut them out. Also code lock isn't in yet so CPM will have some voicing into it. So we're going to have a bi monthly big update and a bi monthly small update? I.E 1.3 small, 1.4 big, 1.5 small, 1.6 big? What's the point of monthly releases then? Most of the stuff in 1.3 sounds like stuff you put into hot fixes more than anything. Whats the point? to fix glaring issues in updates sooner, instead of waiting for big updates every 3 months while bugs and glitches continue to drag down. this way they can patch outstanding issues sooner so when a patch drops if something is F'ed up they can fix it withing the month in most cases instead of having to wait another 3 months to fix it. Bi monthly would be better if every two months we get a update the size of 1.3. Really, this is the kind of stuff you fix in a hot fix. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1411
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
1.4 is better versed and more used to the new schedule, also things that been on the stove are about to get done cooking or got done shortly after 1.3 code lock. This is provided QA doesn't gut them out. Also code lock isn't in yet so CPM will have some voicing into it.
So we're going to have a bi monthly big update and a bi monthly small update? I.E 1.3 small, 1.4 big, 1.5 small, 1.6 big? What's the point of monthly releases then? Most of the stuff in 1.3 sounds like stuff you put into hot fixes more than anything. Whats the point? to fix glaring issues in updates sooner, instead of waiting for big updates every 3 months while bugs and glitches continue to drag down. this way they can patch outstanding issues sooner so when a patch drops if something is F'ed up they can fix it withing the month in most cases instead of having to wait another 3 months to fix it. Bi monthly would be better if every two months we get a update the size of 1.3. Really, this is the kind of stuff you fix in a hot fix. When you can't fix something in a hotfix guess what you do? You put it in the next Title Update. |
AAA Hellcab
Theia Orpheum
39
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:10:00 -
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That sounds like a good plan. One update to add stuff, one to fix.
What I really want is more corridor locations with some attrition combat, but I think I might start using the uplinks indoors
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HowDidThatTaste
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
3434
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:10:00 -
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Wow that is 30+ peoples work for 30 days!? And its just a fix of what was broken from 1.2 |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6465
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:13:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Whats the point? to fix glaring issues in updates sooner, instead of waiting for big updates every 3 months while bugs and glitches continue to drag down. this way they can patch outstanding issues sooner so when a patch drops if something is F'ed up they can fix it withing the month in most cases instead of having to wait another 3 months to fix it.
Bi monthly would be better if every two months we get a update the size of 1.3. Really, this is the kind of stuff you fix in a hot fix.[/quote]
Cept that a hotfix is very limited to the things they can fix. Hot fixes are like changing the tire, refilling the gas tank, changing the oil, going to the car wash. Code Fixes are like trying to figure out what is causing that clanking noise in the engine, taking the engine apart, shaving the heads down and reboring the piston chambers and putting it back together. The later being very costly to deploy. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
745
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:16:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Big Buff for the Red-line snipers ... now they can go deeper into the red-line and see all the way across the map...
Also big buff to the LLAV's... no they are even harder to kill.
-Contact grenades: -Lowered ammo count to 1 -Homogenised PG/CPU -Homogenised blast damage and radius
But hey!! is all good..We have ;
-Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon
And a bunch of fixes to bugs that most people don't even know they exist.
So instead of fixing problems ... you creating new ones CCP? How did LLAVs get a buff?
They nerfing one of the AV weapons (Contact grenades), they haven't buff what suppose to be the most effective AV weapon against LLAV's ( Plasma Cannon )...And the Swarm Launcher its useless against them. So now LLAV's can just run around with nothing to worry about.
One month of Impossible to kill LLAV's.... looks like fun. |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
848
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: Whats the point? to fix glaring issues in updates sooner, instead of waiting for big updates every 3 months while bugs and glitches continue to drag down. this way they can patch outstanding issues sooner so when a patch drops if something is F'ed up they can fix it withing the month in most cases instead of having to wait another 3 months to fix it.
Bi monthly would be better if every two months we get a update the size of 1.3. Really, this is the kind of stuff you fix in a hot fix.[/quote]
Any changes to the client data have to go through sony QA, so there is a delay in before patches are done dev side to when they get through sony QA for the client side, how long is that delay? unknown at this time, but it seems sony QA is a bit of a bottleneck for CCP.
sony may be checking the entire code of the new build but they have always been pretty murky on what exactly sony QA does. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
1414
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:20:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Big Buff for the Red-line snipers ... now they can go deeper into the red-line and see all the way across the map...
Also big buff to the LLAV's... no they are even harder to kill.
-Contact grenades: -Lowered ammo count to 1 -Homogenised PG/CPU -Homogenised blast damage and radius
But hey!! is all good..We have ;
-Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon
And a bunch of fixes to bugs that most people don't even know they exist.
So instead of fixing problems ... you creating new ones CCP? How did LLAVs get a buff? They nerfing one of the AV weapons (Contact grenades), they haven't buff what suppose to be the most effective AV weapon against LLAV's ( Plasma Cannon )...And the Swarm Launcher its useless against them. So now LLAV's can just run around with nothing to worry about. One month of Impossible to kill LLAV's.... looks like fun. Contact LOCUS grenades. They're not touching AV grenades. |
da GAND
187. League of Infamy
152
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:22:00 -
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It's all fixes... but that's sort of what CCP needs to do. Would be stupid to add new content to a broken game, but at the same time CCP is wayyyyyyyyyy behind on giving us new content. Overall it's the same game just little things being added and tweaked. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
366
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Posted - 2013.07.24 00:57:00 -
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Worthy fixes, but who do you have to consentually molest for a new map around here? |
J'Jor Da'Wg
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
858
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:01:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant.
Okay see you when 1.4 is meh as was 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 will be, and so on and on.
I'm not coming back until the game is noticeably better |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant.
IWS - say it with me "under promise, over deliver"
Dont be like CCP and set yourself up for a fall. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:06:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Worthy fixes, but who do you have to consentually molest for a new map around here?
Whats a new map with the same installation locations.
Also we know how art / models roll with this company.
Man - each misstep just makes me more cynical |
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da GAND
187. League of Infamy
152
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:06:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. Okay see you when 1.4 is meh as was 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 will be, and so on and on. I'm not coming back until the game is noticeably better
don't come back till at least 1.8, I really don't see why people think 1.4 is gonna be awesome |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
221
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Posted - 2013.07.24 01:44:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. I know you guys have hinted at giving scouts some " love " in the future can you please get someone on this soon. The 1.2 patch destroyed us. The nerf you did to the stamina makes it mandatory to run a green jar on a minmatar low slot, so now a logistics suit can run faster an jump more often an has more hp an equipment which makes my 14 million into a scout an all it's attributes utterly useless .
Our base stats, stamina , an slots are completely underpowered since it feels like now we can't run an jump a handrail to get away an our hit box seems so large that bullets have never hit me like they do now , I can't get away from anything; plus the walls seem to grab us the faster we go an I'm not sure the devs have a complete understanding of how bad of a place the scout suits are in right now.
Also our CPU an pg works out to about 25 a slot an our knives , shields an cardiac an kinetic modules all take up too much space, maybe scouts can have a increase to our knives CPU or a passive reduction for certain modules per level?
I ve been hammering the forums for a worthy response an timeline to give my scout brothers some answers so when there's time can someone please make a dev post regarding the issue?
We all know you have your hands full balancing things an hopefully this isn't so far down the list , but I'm wasting sp spewing into other things an now I'm not sure if I do this if you will change what I'm about to throw my points into so it's a huge guessing game for us right now.
Thank you for your time |
Killar-12
Intrepidus XI EoN.
307
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:1.3 was the second part of the dry run on the monthly patching model stress testing the QA process mostly. It contained the balance changes mentioned and some improvements that did not complement 1.2.
As I have been saying, 1.3 is small. 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. How is 1.4 going to be any different? Both get a single month after all... 1.4 is better versed and more used to the new schedule, also things that been on the stove are about to get done cooking or got done shortly after 1.3 code lock. This is provided QA doesn't gut them out. Also code lock isn't in yet so CPM will have some voicing into it. Soon as 1.4 locks work on 1.5 should start and hopefully, also 1.4 locks should be far enough after 1.3 to fix any code required serious bugs. Code/Content Locks or Vehicle Locks? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6476
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:34:00 -
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@ Killar12 Content lock.
@OZAROW I haven't spoken to CCP Remnant or CCP Wolfman about their plans for scouts yet, but scouts underperforming is on CCP's radar. I am sure already has ideas on how to buff it.
@Rynoceros CCP Logicloop and last I checked there are 3 new outposts (the Caldari Production Facility and the Gallente? Research lab. Third outpost still under NDA) in the oven and 1 new landscape enroute.
@Draxxis KANNAH I have stated multiple times the patch is going to be small in 1.3 for the very same reason I already posted and I only started making those statements after getting hard evidence. CPM cuts through the smoke and mirrors far more easily than you guys think. We see progress, we see things in work and outside of short of being at the studio we're much better informed what is on the development stove top, what is being worked on now and what isn't. We do talk with the developers, we do see things and hear things, and talk about things that unfortunately may take 2 months for you guys to see the results of sometimes. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
559
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:58:00 -
[35] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote: 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant.
That is a mighty big if.
Keep in mind everyone, that Uprising was going to be a huge step forward in Dust, so when they say something will be big, just remember what they gave us on the 6th of May. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
359
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:05:00 -
[36] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:1.3 patch notes... The only thing other than Cal Logi, Flaylock and Fused nades nerf that I found exciting was "smoothed out player movement in the distance", that was really annoying. Other than that, I'm surprised by how tiny this patch is. Is this really all CCP did in a month? It may be Small, but it will fix some big issues..... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
6481
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:09:00 -
[37] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. That is a mighty big if. Keep in mind everyone, that Uprising was going to be a huge step forward in Dust, so when they say something will be big, just remember what they gave us on the 6th of May.
Well that is what the next meeting is about though so stay tuned and lets see what happens then. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
800
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:10:00 -
[38] - Quote
Cat Merc wrote:1.3 patch notes... The only thing other than Cal Logi, Flaylock and Fused nades nerf that I found exciting was "smoothed out player movement in the distance", that was really annoying. Other than that, I'm surprised by how tiny this patch is. Is this really all CCP did in a month? did we even get anything in 1.3......? No suits.....no weapons...... no nothing? |
Noc Tempre
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2290
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:10:00 -
[39] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:@ Killar12 Content lock.
@OZAROW I haven't spoken to CCP Remnant or CCP Wolfman about their plans for scouts yet, but scouts underperforming is on CCP's radar. I am sure already has ideas on how to buff it.
@Rynoceros CCP Logicloop and last I checked there are 3 new outposts (the Caldari Production Facility and the Gallente? Research lab. Third outpost still under NDA) in the oven and 1 new landscape enroute.
@Draxxis KANNAH I have stated multiple times the patch is going to be small in 1.3 for the very same reason I already posted and I only started making those statements after getting hard evidence. CPM cuts through the smoke and mirrors far more easily than you guys think. We see progress, we see things in work and outside of short of being at the studio we're much better informed what is on the development stove top, what is being worked on now and what isn't. We do talk with the developers, we do see things and hear things, and talk about things that unfortunately may take 2 months for you guys to see the results of sometimes.
You talk with the same 3-5 guys everyone else in IRC does, just a little more openly. You are not anything important to the process. |
OZAROW
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. League of Infamy
222
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:@ Killar12 Content lock.
@OZAROW I haven't spoken to CCP Remnant or CCP Wolfman about their plans for scouts yet, but scouts underperforming is on CCP's radar. I am sure already has ideas on how to buff it.
@Rynoceros CCP Logicloop and last I checked there are 3 new outposts (the Caldari Production Facility and the Gallente? Research lab. Third outpost still under NDA) in the oven and 1 new landscape enroute.
@Draxxis KANNAH I have stated multiple times the patch is going to be small in 1.3 for the very same reason I already posted and I only started making those statements after getting hard evidence. CPM cuts through the smoke and mirrors far more easily than you guys think. We see progress, we see things in work and outside of short of being at the studio we're much better informed what is on the development stove top, what is being worked on now and what isn't. We do talk with the developers, we do see things and hear things, and talk about things that unfortunately may take 2 months for you guys to see the results of sometimes. Thanks for the mention saber, please just make sure their aware of what we've mentioned that's all, we're all hoping it's a big fix not just here's 3/3 CPU pg lol. Not asking for super stats but no delay or major amount of endurance but a CPU / pg, slots, endurance an base CPU an pg speed increase would be nice to keep a logi with a sg an 3 kin cats from chasing me would be nice |
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
833
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:21:00 -
[41] - Quote
Sadly despite the patch being small, we are probably going to have to re-download the entire 2.6+ GB game again.
Took me about 24 hours the last time from download to actually playing the game (download failed multiple times as it was about to finish, forcing me to start from scratch on my very slow net speed). |
Spectre-M
The Generals EoN.
9
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:26:00 -
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I actually work professionally in 3d rendering, making assets and troubleshooting glitches for companies like Disney and nickelodeon. 1 month is a tight deadline. Seems all the couch warriors aren't happy with anything. They do large updates, you complain. They do smaller faster ones, you complain. Try and apply some perspective while evaluating a game that's free(despite if you paid for a add-on). "but they devalue my SP and my hard work when the nerf my FOTM". Well, I guess it's a double edge sword when you devalue their hard work trying to give you a better balanced game for everyone to enjoy. Do they go to your work/school and tell you how much you suck? They should you hypocrites. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:29:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Well that is what the next meeting is about though so stay tuned and lets see what happens then.
I get that you are trying, and I am not trying to be a bigger douche than I need to, but my faith in this project has about run out.
The current saga to try and get someone at CCP to even tell us who is leading vehicle development is just one of many issues that cast a very poor impression of the potential for CCP Shanghai to make real progress.
Sure, a balance pass is needed, but honestly, it wouldn't have been necessary if the proper work had been done in the first place.
I seem to recall from one of the E3 interviews that a dev was saying that these monthly updates would include content. Now, I understand that 1.3 was always slated to be a small patch, but what content we have gotten has been horribly broken since it got dumped on the community, and even worse, everyone predicted that before it got released. Everyone was telling you and CCP that the armor plates were garbage for armor tankers, and everyone who saw that awful E3 trailer took one look at the proto Commando suit and called it the turd that it is.
What really gets me annoyed about all of this is that there have been people consistently asking for better consultation with the community before these types of things get code locked, so as to prevent the exact mess we are in now, with balance passes needing to be made to fix problems that would have been obvious to anyone who actually plays the game.
So either the CPM is not capable of communicating this to the devs, or much more likely, they are not responsive to what the CPM is telling them. If one were to assume the second to be true, then this game is going to have a very rough year while content dribbles out and then the devs have to waste many hours rebalancing broken stuff that never should have been released.
It would seem that even CCP should be able to see that being forced to devote man hours to fixing things that could have been addressed with basic interaction with the players is an inefficient way of trying to turn this game around.
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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
192
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:33:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote: So we're going to have a bi monthly big update and a bi monthly small update? I.E 1.3 small, 1.4 big, 1.5 small, 1.6 big? What's the point of monthly releases then?
Where exactly do you get this idea from?
I am not seeing anything that suggests that.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
256
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Posted - 2013.07.24 03:43:00 -
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Spectre-M wrote:I actually work professionally in 3d rendering, making assets and troubleshooting glitches for companies like Disney and nickelodeon. 1 month is a tight deadline. Seems all the couch warriors aren't happy with anything. They do large updates, you complain. They do smaller faster ones, you complain. Try and apply some perspective while evaluating a game that's free(despite if you paid for a add-on). "but they devalue my SP and my hard work when the nerf my FOTM". Well, I guess it's a double edge sword when you devalue their hard work trying to give you a better balanced game for everyone to enjoy. Do they go to your work/school and tell you how much you suck? They should you hypocrites.
Yeah CCP is a great company that pumps out content with the best of them
And they chose the F2P model not us plus we (well everyone who purchase aur) pay and the game is official.
That argument you are trying to sell is as tired as CCP's promises. |
Spectre-M
The Generals EoN.
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Posted - 2013.07.24 06:21:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Spectre-M wrote:I actually work professionally in 3d rendering, making assets and troubleshooting glitches for companies like Disney and nickelodeon. 1 month is a tight deadline. Seems all the couch warriors aren't happy with anything. They do large updates, you complain. They do smaller faster ones, you complain. Try and apply some perspective while evaluating a game that's free(despite if you paid for a add-on). "but they devalue my SP and my hard work when the nerf my FOTM". Well, I guess it's a double edge sword when you devalue their hard work trying to give you a better balanced game for everyone to enjoy. Do they go to your work/school and tell you how much you suck? They should you hypocrites. Yeah CCP is a great company that pumps out content with the best of them And they chose the F2P model not us plus we (well everyone who purchase aur) pay and the game is official. That argument you are trying to sell is as tired as CCP's promises.
I have actually paid quite abit to this game. And my argument is empirical. I do know timeliness for assets and the work that goes into polishing functionality. Have you ever even stepped into a studio for more than an hour? My comments come from years of experience in developing movies, games and broadcast. The fact that they are changing their deadlines to suit the community requests is good. If you want more content that is just 'pumped' out, that's fine, but I'd rather see them polish what we have quickly and spend good time on larger mechanics. But I guess your post speaks for itself. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3468
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:50:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Big Buff for the Red-line snipers ... now they can go deeper into the red-line and see all the way across the map...
Also big buff to the LLAV's... no they are even harder to kill.
-Contact grenades: -Lowered ammo count to 1 -Homogenised PG/CPU -Homogenised blast damage and radius
But hey!! is all good..We have ;
-Added shadow-casting on the first person hands and weapon
And a bunch of fixes to bugs that most people don't even know they exist.
So instead of fixing problems ... you creating new ones CCP? How did LLAVs get a buff? They nerfing one of the AV weapons (Contact grenades), they haven't buff what suppose to be the most effective AV weapon against LLAV's ( Plasma Cannon )...And the Swarm Launcher its useless against them. So now LLAV's can just run around with nothing to worry about. One month of Impossible to kill LLAV's.... looks like fun.
Look at the dev blogs again. They are nerfing the contact grenades that are used on infantry. The context of the blog is very clear. |
Medic 1879
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
713
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:54:00 -
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Seriously? A thread titled Well... that was tiny... and no wedding tackle jokes?
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Cosgar
ParagonX
3162
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: 1.4 on the other hand if it shapes up to what the early guessing goes is much more significant. That is a mighty big if. Keep in mind everyone, that Uprising was going to be a huge step forward in Dust, so when they say something will be big, just remember what they gave us on the 6th of May. Well that is what the next meeting is about though so stay tuned and lets see what happens then. Any word on EWAR yet? |
Zekain Kade
TeamPlayers EoN.
1327
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:58:00 -
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This tiny patch will call for a 30 gb download
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
392
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Posted - 2013.07.24 19:07:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:
They nerfing one of the AV weapons (Contact grenades), they haven't buff what suppose to be the most effective AV weapon against LLAV's ( Plasma Cannon )...And the Swarm Launcher its useless against them. So now LLAV's can just run around with nothing to worry about.
One month of Impossible to kill LLAV's.... looks like fun.
You know that contact grenades are actually anti-infantry and not anti-vehicle right? This could explain why you have been unable to hurt LLAV at all. |
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